That title does sound harsh, but I feel in my heart and also in my head that it is true. James Toney has a unique style of fighting, and it has worked on different guys, but one guy he will not be able to beat is Vitali Klitschko.
For starters, Klitschko has an 80" reach, he is 6'7 1/2'', and he weighs 250 lbs. Toney has a 75" reach, and he's only 5'10''. He is also way smaller than Klitschko, about 50 lbs real difference.
Klitschko is stronger, taller, and more powerful. Any skill advantage that Toney has will be overcome by Klitschko's massive size and decent ability of his own.
Imagine what Klitschko can do with HIS jab...
http://www.ufcfightnews.com/sept25/images/williams-toney008.jpg
Imagine what Klitschko can do with Toney standing right in front of him. Toney's head movement will not save him, he will still get hit SOMEWHERE, and by much too big of a man.
http://www.ufcfightnews.com/sept25/images/williams-toney009.jpg
Dadadadaaaaaaaaa.....
Captian obvious to the rescue...
Everyone knows that fat ass will NEVER be the Champ.
The thing about Floyd is that he's content with his style, and so is the boxing world. What is he, # 2 or 3 P4P? That P4P BOXER, not puncher. He has KO power, but that's not his stylr. He's undefeated for a reason. Because his speed and his BOXING SKILLS come before his power and KO ability.
i apologize to the rest of the member for my last post but come on this kid southbay he did get in my nerves he is such a low class little bitch
i apologize to rest of member for post but mauricio just get on nerve, i so sorry...
please fuck my ass
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morales is tryin to fight like roy?
morales has a fighter hes molden after himself?
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:confused:
Whoa... Slow down Pedro...
"he's too slow to be effective with this style at the moment...
a guy whos tryin things but just isnt quick enough"
I was making a connection with some of the things you said about this kid and your "El Horrible" Morales.
More like a GreatDane and a Pug!
OK that was kind of creepy...
The whole fire and pentagram baptised thing, you need a new whatever it is you have... schtick.
My P4P number 1 but i dont think he has enough power to KO a 140 pounder with a good chin, unless he wears them down a hell of a lot first.
He doesn't need it, he'll be content with outboxing them, and winning a decision.
idk if its roy doin it
or the kid tryin mold himself after roy
but hes def tryin to be a clone of roy
hes to slow to be effective with this style
at the moment
hes no more then roy is now
a guy whos tryin things but just isnt quick enough
Damn, sounds alot like another washed up fighter that we've been talking about a whole lot lately...
MORALES
rofl i think klitchko is a fucking joke just like john ruiz and james toney they only people i think are decent is hasim rahman and chris byrd(and i cant stand this mother fucker)
Which Klit are you talking about here Vit or Wlad?
Hmm...well, most people scored Toney-Jirov to Toney by a wide margin. I had it 8 rounds to 4 plus that knockdown in the 12th. Then, think about this. Toney has never been hurt in a fight before. I'd say he has a lot going for him.
Toney will NEVER BE THE HW CHAMP (period)
hahahahahhah welll this was fun to read but kinda amaeture stuff compared to my old smack talkin dayz at smacktalk over there at boxingtalk. i would retaliate against these putos like scam but he hasn't talked sh1t to me , i'll handle his ass and make those faggots bleed like there moms tampon.....................viva mexico putos don't fuk with a smack talk legend hahahahahah ah sh1t
WOW, this is some really edumacated shit, what school did you go to, I want to make sure to send my kids THERE. Hooked on Phonics SURE WORKED FOR YOU.
Fucking loser...
Cost for Lasik or Photorefractive Keratotomy(PRK) is 500-1000 per eye. The old method, called refractive keratotomy(RK) is no longer recommended for fighters because of the ability of your cornea to pop.
Chances that it doesnt work are VERY SLIM these days. Downside is that you won't be able to fight for a few months, during the much needed healing time.
suothbayboy suck my dick you puto i FUCKED your ass :D
Oh Shit... I was only kidding man, I didn't know you really were a fag...
I've always known never to piss off a mexican, but a gay mexican, watch out, he'll fuck you in the ass.
Oh yeah, you're a loser...
please enough of the pityful trash talking that shit does not work with me dude I'm a fucking mexican warrior I aint scared of nothing you should know that
so what's it gonna be pac nuthuggers put your money with your mooth is
You sound a little soft for a "fucking mexican warrior." Shut Up! I think you got your english twisted, what you really meant to say is that you're "fucking a mexican warrior"
oh yeah, what's a "MOOTH"?
I wonder where all the people that said Jones is overrated in other threads are. Goes to prove that most of them have no idea what they're talking about.
Padded Records: Bryant Brannon, Richard Frazier, Glen Kelly, Antoine Byrd, David Telesco, Derrick Harmon, Tony Thornton.
Instant Hype: John Ruiz
No Quality Opposition: 1994-2004
Nice try... Unfortunately, your opinion is a little too out there to be taken seriously. Calling his opponents "no quality" is a disgrace to the sport of boxing, and to your "reputaion beyond repute" here at BoxingScene. Between the years of 1994-2004, Jones beat everyone.
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Clinton Wood
Eric Lucas
Reggie Johnson
Otis Grant
Lou del Valle
Virgil Hill
Montell Griffin
Mike McCallum
Vinny Pazienza
Jorge Castro and
Jorge Vaca
I also think your definition of padded record is a little hazy. Padded record means a fight in which the winner proclaims to be career making or a career defining bout but is really a mandatory chump, or a big payday, or a challenger who he'd like to fuck up. Jones didn't stake his career or his P4P ranking on any of these bouts that you have seemingly pulled out of the 50 plus fight "hat" of Roy Jones.
I've decided not to entertain the John Ruiz comment. You and I both know that was a good fight for Roy. He couldn't turn it down.
A fucking slaughter... Lots of Golata blood. VK isn't the smoothest fighter in the division, but he has the heaviest hands, no doubt. If he can keep Golata on the outside, he just might bleed to death
Another boring Toney thread from another no-nothing. Vitali Klitchsko is EASY work for Toney, that stiff robot will be knocked out in under 8 rounds.
Nominee for the LEAST INFORMATIVE AND POSSIBLY THE STUPIDEST COMMENT ON THIS BOARD award
This one belongs in the "Least likely predictions for 2005" thread.
I'd like to refer you back to the Pit Bull and Poodle analogy.
James Toney can become heavyweight champion. He has the ability to beat John Ruiz and Lamon Brewster. While I think fights with V-Klit and Byrd would be tougher, Toney is one of the most skillfull fighters in the division.The problem with Toney is his weight and his age. He has suffered two injuries within a realtively short time span so father time is catching up to him.
However talent wise, James Toney can compete with the champions of the division and for sure at least beat two of them.
IMPOSSIBLE.
Ruiz and Brewster can't even compare to VK. If fat ass jumped in the ring with VK, it would be a repeat of the Kirk Johnson fight. Like a Pit Bull and poodle.
Gimme a break. People are just predicting who will win. Just because they happen to think Pac will win doesn't mean you refries should start an online war.
BTW, my grass is getting too long. How much you charge Mauricio?
Damn......
hey shouldn;t be arguing about
boxing and nto wheter asian's or mexicans
are better.
how about we calm the racial comments
seriusly, thats pretty fucking inmature of everyone
While we're talking about language and spelling and all that shit, how about this asshole, Right Uppercut. LEARN HOW TO SPELL BEFORE YOU PUT IN YOUR 2 CENTS.
What the fuck is "inmature"???
Oh yeah, whwat's up with your corny ass signature. "I've seen the light, and now I'm crowing" or some shit like that??? I nominate this for the MOST HOMOSEXUAL SIGNATURE AWARD. That's almost as bad as MAURICIO's "I'm fucking a mexican warrior" line...