Roy Jones Jr. OVERRATED?????

lol Only an idiot would take away from what Jones has done based on his losses. Get out of here. Ruiz was a threat to Jones based on size alone. Maligna beat some good fighters. Lucas went on to be a good champion. Tarver did as well. Griffin beat Toney twice and had his moment svs jones in the first fight, albeit short-lived. Harding just recently beat Telesco and also has a win over tarver in his prime. Lou Del Valle definitely had some skill. Virgil Hill had a great jab and went on the CRUISERWEIGHT champion, but one sstopped him with one shot. These were all good fightes, I didn't say great, but they were good. Look at their records and acheivements. How can you say Jones was great and then say he didn't have great ring-skills, which many people, including boxing historian Bert Sugar, feel he did have in his prime. Like I said, if you feel that way, get lost.

Thank you all for helping me shut the Roy Jones haters up. Many people can say he was overrated, but can't explain why... Thanks again.

A couple of you hit the nail on the head. Roy wasn't nearly as skilled as he was talented. That doesn't mean he was overrated, just that he was destined to have an early end to his career, when his reflexes slowed and he wasn't able to get out from in front of the bigger shots. Roy hardly ever got hit with big shots a couple of years ago, and when he did get hit with them, he was moving with them and the effects were lessened. But his reactions slowed slightly, just enough that it gets him in trouble. He was a truly great fighter, with a natural skill and agility that put him in a class with Ali (and a mouth, too). Such a shame he didn't apply himself, and become a better boxer as well. If he had, he'd still have another couple of years in his prime. Anyway, Nope. Not overrated at all, and I agree that he almost certainly deserves a spot in the boxing Hall of Fame. Natural talents like him, who rise to the pinnacle of their potential, are exceedingly rare in any sport.

Why do people always say Ruiz sucks but when people name Roy Jones's good opponents he's up there. Roy won big time and was undefeated for a long time! He is a future hall of famer in my book for sure

Nice try... Unfortunately, your opinion is a little too out there to be taken seriously. Calling his opponents "no quality" is a disgrace to the sport of boxing, and to your "reputaion beyond repute" here at BoxingScene. Between the years of 1994-2004, Jones beat everyone. James Toney Bernard Hopkins Clinton Wood Eric Lucas Reggie Johnson Otis Grant Lou del Valle Virgil Hill Montell Griffin Mike McCallum Vinny Pazienza Jorge Castro and Jorge Vaca I've decided not to entertain the John Ruiz comment. You and I both know that was a good fight for Roy. He couldn't turn it down. My reputation, heres the difference, I have one, you don't. Wait till you have 100 posts to start speaking about reputation. As far as Jorge Vaca and Jorge Castro being world class opposition, thats laughable. Vinny Paz and Mike McCallum were done when they faced Jones. Lou Del Valle, Otis Grant, Clinton Woods, and Eric Lucas were never anything special. He was losing to Montell Griffin in the first fight before being DQ'ed. And Griffin wasn't anything, either. Hopkins and Toney are the only guys he beat that I think meant something. The John Ruiz thing was when I totally lost respect for Jones. I've decided not to entertain the John Ruiz comment. Brilliant move, let it slide.

I wonder where all the people that said Jones is overrated in other threads are. Goes to prove that most of them have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah, I guess they did it for the posts.. Anyway, I don't think Roy Jones Jr. is overrated. He's one of the best things to come from the 90s..

I think RJJ's style relays too much on his atletic skills, B-Hop is a better technicall figther, wich allows B-Hop to be real good even if he looses his speed, and If you take RJJ's speed away he is in deep shit( just look at his last two fights) If b-hop made rjj back up he could win.But it's a different story if they fought on the outside. :boxing:

Speed i just don't understand what ypu are trying to say. If you are saying Hops has better technique, I agree with you. He has better "textbook" skills. If you are saying he is the better man in the ring then I disagree with you, although I think both fighters are all-time greats. I think RJJ's style relays too much on his atletic skills, B-Hop is a better technicall figther, wich allows B-Hop to be real good even if he looses his speed, and If you take RJJ's speed away he is in deep shit( just look at his last two fights)

hmm i just don't understand what ypu are trying to say. If you are saying Hops has better technique, I agree with you. He has better "textbook" skills. If you are saying he is the better man in the ring then I disagree with you, although I think both fighters are all-time greats.

I can add more names to that list... Antonio Tarver, John Ruiz, Lou Del Valle, Virgil Hill, Eric Lucas, Eric Harding, Thulane Malinga, Reggie Johnson, Montell Griffin, Merqui Sosa and I'm sure there are more I am forgetting. These were all good fighters, and Roy made most of them look like asses. Why do people always say Ruiz sucks but when people name Roy Jones's good opponents he's up there.

B-Hop The only way that makes any sense is if you feel that Hopkins has better TECHNIQUE than Roy. I would agree. Head to head though Roy wins in his prime 9 outta 10. yeah but RJJ relays more in his speed B-Hop is more of an all around figther.

"they have the nerve to say i aint fight nobdy, i just make em' look like nobodY"

hmm even tho he lost to RJJ, i think he is better The only way that makes any sense is if you feel that Hopkins has better TECHNIQUE than Roy. I would agree. Head to head though Roy wins in his prime 9 outta 10.

IDK is he is in my top 10 And thats were it stops.The rest were just bum ass manditories.Where would you rank him all time? Athleticaly amazing but if we go to skills, idk if he makes my top 10. i mean there is soo many; Ali Marciano Chavez Robinson Hagler Fraizer Dempsey Tyson (in his prime) F.Patterson B-Hop (even tho he lost to RJJ, i think he is better) Cory Spinks even Mayweather. just some real good ones

incorrect I can add more names to that list... Antonio Tarver, John Ruiz, Lou Del Valle, Virgil Hill, Eric Lucas, Eric Harding, Thulane Malinga, Reggie Johnson, Montell Griffin, Merqui Sosa and I'm sure there are more I am forgetting. These were all good fighters, and Roy made most of them look like asses.

you calling B-Hop James Toney Clinton Wood bum's???? tell me you are kidding. And thats were it stops.The rest were just bum ass manditories.Where would you rank him all time?

You Kidding? He was a very talented fighter :boxing: ,i wish he fought bigger names instead of fighting bum ass manditories. you calling B-Hop James Toney Clinton Wood bum's???? tell me you are kidding.

Roy Jones is one of the most gifted atlethes in the history of box he made all of hs opponents look like amateurs. i see not point on continuing this thread we all know Jones is one of the bast ever. He was a very talented fighter :boxing: ,i wish he fought bigger names instead of fighting bum ass manditories.

Wtf Roy Jones is one of the most gifted atlethes in the history of box he made all of his opponents look like amateurs. i see not point on continuing this thread we all know Jones is one of the best ever.

I wonder where all the people that said Jones is overrated in other threads are. Goes to prove that most of them have no idea what they're talking about.