One of my sparring partners is 246, i am 155 both the same height. My trainer has me fighting him to get me used to hard punches, i've been beating this guy all the time, busted his nose today, but how can i put him on that canvas without getting nailed.
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whats up rockin1,
havent seen u in a while
Dempsey u going to the kronk to man?
i guess i'll see u guys down there when i come:)
btw Rockin1, can u sent me back a pm
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Dude, did you post this same exact question on Sherdog or is it just a coincidence? Anyway, as ET said, knocking out your training partner is counter productive.
No, i don't know what sherdog is? Is it another boxing site?
Hey Joeboxer
hey joeboxer,
Originally Posted by tyson
My weight is 152, and I used to sparr with a heavyweight, just because there wasn't anyone else around.
We went at it with full force, everytime, and I had to be careful with the headpunches so that I wouldn't knock him down.
The traniners even had me sparring with 22oz gloves for a year to keep me from knocking people out in training.
He had to pull his bodypunches, but not to the head.
I can as well inform that in 2003, in the junior european championship, me and the heavyweight from Norway punched on a punching-machine to test our power. (Heavyweight in amateur equals 81 kg- around 185 pounds) He managed 124 on the machine, I managed first 126, second 127 then 128, before he dragged me away from there because all the other fighters were watching :P I weighed 63kg then... By the way, he got a bronze medal, and I lost my freakin first fight to a wussy from turkey.
I guess power aint everything, eh?
ive used the same machine wen i was 13 and 10months, i was 40kg. i got 90 on the machine, my bro was 19 at the time and 60kg and he got 129. and just to let u know, the machine tests speed, not power
My weight is 152, and I used to sparr with a heavyweight, just because there wasn't anyone else around.
We went at it with full force, everytime, and I had to be careful with the headpunches so that I wouldn't knock him down.
The traniners even had me sparring with 22oz gloves for a year to keep me from knocking people out in training.
He had to pull his bodypunches, but not to the head.
I can as well inform that in 2003, in the junior european championship, me and the heavyweight from Norway punched on a punching-machine to test our power. (Heavyweight in amateur equals 81 kg- around 185 pounds) He managed 124 on the machine, I managed first 126, second 127 then 128, before he dragged me away from there because all the other fighters were watching :P I weighed 63kg then... By the way, he got a bronze medal, and I lost my freakin first fight to a wussy from turkey.
I guess power aint everything, eh?
There are always exceptions to the rule. Rubine "the huricane" Carter used to be sparring partners with Sonny Liston. Danny Green just battled James Toney is an awsome spar session on the internet.
But it sounds like you know what you are doing. This kind of shit is not for beginers. When you first start sparring you can get hurt or get hurt by someone your own size, because you don't know what your doing. Fighting someone that much bigger than you is just plain stupid.
The guy who posted this thread agrees with me.
One of my sparring partners is 246, i am 155 both the same height. My trainer has me fighting him to get me used to hard punches, i've been beating this guy all the time, busted his nose today, but how can i put him on that canvas without getting nailed.Dude, did you post this same exact question on Sherdog or is it just a coincidence? Anyway, as ET said, knocking out your training partner is counter productive.
You're making a lot of assumptions here. Heavyweights with the ability to throw hard, short punches aren't exactly a rare breed. He could get killed trying to find that range.
Eh. That's my basic plan for taking out anyone (I may have a small man's complex). I have yet to run into anyone it doesn't work on. Mind you, I haven't made it to Kronk yet, so if and when I finally manage to get there, I'll tell you how it goes.
Plus, given what he said, I thought it was a fair plan to give him. Oh, and as far as heavyweights who fight well on the inside, there aren't that many these days. I would qualify that, but I don't really believe it has to be qualified. Really, when was the last time you saw a man as big as say, Jameel McCline fight really well on the inside? Riddick Bowe? Andrew Golota, mebbe? Nah, the fact of the matter is, and this is true, at least as far as I can tell, of the sport on every level, heavyweights these days are too big to be really effective on the inside. It's part of the reason Byrd has been so successful.
who the hell spars with a guy almost 100 pounds bigger then them anyway?..i dont bleieve u
Its says he's an idiot under his name, can't argue with that
This guy is joking, real trainers don't let 155 guys fights heavy's.
My weight is 152, and I used to sparr with a heavyweight, just because there wasn't anyone else around.
We went at it with full force, everytime, and I had to be careful with the headpunches so that I wouldn't knock him down.
The traniners even had me sparring with 22oz gloves for a year to keep me from knocking people out in training.
He had to pull his bodypunches, but not to the head.
I can as well inform that in 2003, in the junior european championship, me and the heavyweight from Norway punched on a punching-machine to test our power. (Heavyweight in amateur equals 81 kg- around 185 pounds) He managed 124 on the machine, I managed first 126, second 127 then 128, before he dragged me away from there because all the other fighters were watching :P I weighed 63kg then... By the way, he got a bronze medal, and I lost my freakin first fight to a wussy from turkey.
I guess power aint everything, eh?
Yeah. When I see a newcomer try to knock someone out in their first sparring session, the first thing I do is pray he gets dropped, and most of the time they do. Then after they fall down, they are never as fierce as that first round of sparring. It's like they respect the ring after getting punked that once.
KO'ing a sparring partner deliberately won't make you any friends in any gym, unless there was a personal thing of some sort. Like someone else said, if your trainer's worth a shit he already knows what kind of power you have, good or not.
If you can consistently slip his longer punches, you can win easily. There's a range within his range which is all yours. See, he won't be able to get full extension, while you will.
You're making a lot of assumptions here. Heavyweights with the ability to throw hard, short punches aren't exactly a rare breed. He could get killed trying to find that range.
This sounds all a bit crazy to me. I'm no expert, but I do fight amateur so I belong to a gym and do spar. There are times when it has been necessary to try and knock a guy out. Its more of a payback respect type thing. Which is the very thing you are going to be faced with when one of these guys you try to hurt gain a little experience. One of those hot head types tried that with me once when i first started training. He had about 20 lbs on me, caught me with a lot of good hooks and even caused my once broken nose ( basketball incident ) to bleed. We finished our few rounds...i stood in there and took it. 3 months later i kicked his ass all over the ring. We got into a clinch and he kneed me in the face cutting my eye.
Moral of the story is this: sparring is practice, not a fight. As people have mentioned on here before, its there for you to work on stamina and weaknesses. Besides these are your teamates and you do want someone in your corner rooting for you during your fights. In most gyms, if you catch someone with a good shot and stun them, the trainer has you back off. Again, Im in atlanta and not philly. Doubt you have one punch power to knock out a heavy so this means you are gonna have to catch him with a huge flurry of punches while he's hurt. Bottom line " it aint cool"
One of my sparring partners is 246, i am 155 both the same height. My trainer has me fighting him to get me used to hard punches, i've been beating this guy all the time, busted his nose today, but how can i put him on that canvas without getting nailed.
I'm a small guy too (5'7", but I weigh 175) and I love fighting bigger guys. Every chance I get to fight heavyweights I jump on. In terms of talent you need to be able to take a punch, and punch like the bejesus. As far as skills go, make sure your bodypunching, in-fighting, lateral movement and head movement are well above average. Bonuses are a good strong jab ( ala vintage Mike Tyson) and great strength. If you can consistently slip his longer punches, you can win easily. There's a range within his range which is all yours. See, he won't be able to get full extension, while you will. With just enough side-to-side movement, you'll be too elusive for him to hit (I'm assuming he's slower than you). If he tries to tie you up, hit him in the body. If he manages to tie you up, throw kidney punches for as long as your hands are free, and when they're not, stick your skull under his chin and start pushing. Your trainer won't like it, but he'll stop clinching with you. With good in-fighting skills, you will be able to knock him silly with uppercuts and hooks, while his longer arms will put him at a disadvantage, and he'll be confined mostly to uppercuts. Of course, uppecuts are a big deal, so try to keep at least a glove under your chin on the inside. You'll take a few more punches if you do it my way than if you fought like Chrid Byrd but you'll put his ass on the mat.
There are a few nuances, but that's my basic plan to beat a bigger guy.
I suggest that you leave the fight game. You are sounding a bit punchy already!
Show yourself your power in the ring with another 155 pounder! If I was 200 lbs or so and you bust my nose....I'd kill you! Sounds like you're sparring with a retard.
After i busted his nose he did come at me hard, i just have great head movement and more speed to escape. The other guys at our gym that are around my weight i have already beat up on and they say i take sparring to serious, but isn't that what your supposed to do