I just dont see Arum investing his whole empire in Bradley. It make no sense. Remember Arum told Floyd years ago that a slick black boxer would never be a ppv superstar in America. I can see Arum being nervous about the whole born again Pacauiao but to invest in Bradley. You lost me there.
I like both fighters but I gotta go with Broner on this. Im assuming this fight would take place at 135 and I dont think Yuris chin holds up over 12 rounds. Yuris been dropped by lesser fighters in the past plus his defense if suspect. I think Broner wears him down.
This is all about the benjis. The WBA just wants to collect the sanction fees. Their not gonna let the WBC be the only ones cleaning up. Im more shocked the IBF hasent got in on this fight.
Manny didnt loose this fight the judges took it from him. Why are there judges 71 and 74 yrs old judging these big fights anyway? If they can do this to Manny than nobody is safe.
If you look at the banner in the background it says Khan vs Peterson. So were talking like early 2010 assuming this is a pre training camp press confernce. I go by Vegas, since Vegas pays in real money, and according to Vegas Floyd is the favorite no matter who hes fighting including Pacquiao. I dont care about anybody elses list.
What does selling out anything have to do with this topic?? Pacman proved when he fought Joshua Clottey that superstar fighters can fight me & sell fights.
What happen to earning your shot first? Who the hell has Lara beat to drop Floyds name like that? Remember Floyd chased Mosley and Oscar for a decade before he got his big money fight. I know Lara can fight and he had a late start but the fact is he and Floyd are at different stages of their carreer.
And Mannys an idiot for passing up his biggest payday to fight Clottey. But then again you never heard the words smart and Manny ever used in the same sentence. At least not by me.
Why is GBP using Josesito Lopez like that. He is a Mexican/American thats bi-lingual, can box, can bang, and has heart too. He is totally marketable. He can do Opera and Christina in the same day. You give him Victor Ortiz' slot on the GBP roster home freakin run. I dont understand why they are using Lopez like hes some sacrafical lamb or something.
Name 1 team, that even compares to the Bad Boy's Pistons, Showtime Lakers, 92' New York Knicks (Best defensive team in NBA history!), Shawn Kemp/Gary Peyton's 95-96' Sonics, Karl Malone/John Stockton Utah Jazz. The list goes on and on, jsut cant think of all of them right now.
Edit: Was mainly naming Jordan's playoff rivals. Not all the best teams of that time.
The Showtime Lakers were done at the end of the 91 season. Shawn Kemp LMAO his carreer was over after the NBA lockout when he came into camp over 3 bills. The 92 Knicks? Theres nothing great about that team. The 2004 Pistons put their heads on a chopping block. Isaih Thomas' carreer was over by the mid 90s. The fact is Jordan never dominated until the greats of the 80s were in their walking chairs. The fact is the NBA was so dead Jordan took 3 yrs off to play Baseball. And if the MLB players didnt Strike he would of still been playing Baseball. That said Jordans still the best of all time.
Some people on here saying rigondeaux doesn't deserve a shot. This means that you don't want to see this fight made, why don't you wanna see this fight?
Its not about not wanting to see the matchup. Its a great matchup. The fact is they are at different parts of their carreer. Nonito has paid his dues and Rigo still has some dept to pay off. Nonito is a top 5 p4p and hes looking for bigger fights and bigger paydays. Rigo hasnt even headlined his own fight card yet. And this is coming from someone who is nuetral. Dont love Nonito. Dont hate him either.
Rigos on the right track though. Hes name dropping which is good for creating some attention. Now all he has to do is continue to win and build a fanbase. If hes the real deal then this fight will still be there in a year or two. Besides its worth it for Rigo too whos making peanuts right now. He could triple his net worth in a year or two, like I said if hes the real deal.
I LMAO at the thought that Floyd was gonna stop Cotto....I knew he would do well against a BOXER...no matter how hard Floyd tries, he's NOT a BRAWLER...plus that underrated jab of Cotto's was always a game changer imo...not suprised he fought Floyd so well....Khan and Cotto both don't handle the pressure well....but in this match up, Cotto will be the bull and I see this going something like the fight he had with Zab....getting rocked and stunned but eventually breaking Khan down and delivering some hurt
Khan handles pressure well how? By running from Maidana and Peterson. Talk about nerves of steel. LMAO
Not even close, i guess you miss the kobetard ERA. That **** was ridic. It's one thing to ride on someones nuts and think they can beat such and such, but to call Kobe better than MJ, bahahahahahahaha.
Im not the type to argue Kobes better than michael but I will say that the nba is much better, deeper, and athletic. A much better league than during the jordan era.
Be honest.
Were you familiar with Mathebula before he fought Donaire?
What cards did Mathebula headline?
Mathebula had a respectable PRO carreer and he was a champion. HBO knows or should know that Rigo is the real deal. Its bad business to make the fight now when the fight can be worth triple in a yr or two.
Ramos is no world-beater. But the difference is that Rigo was the mandatory challenger to the title. Donaire is a star who's choosing his fights. Was Guillermo supposed to turn down a title shot?
No to your question Rigos should take that title shot. But boxing is about timing. And I said this on my first post in this thread. Rigo needs to build his name up. Nonito is a P4P fighter right now and hes looking for bigger fights with bigger purses. You wouldnt quit your 20 dollar an hr job to go work for 10. Its the exact same thing in boxing. Especially when one shot can end your carreer.
They said Pac only can beat those shot, past prime, weight drained and paid to lose fighters but then the asked Pac must take the Floyd invented test because they cant believe how the hell Pac beat those shot, past prime, weight drained and paid to lose fighters. lmao.
Blood and urine test is invented? I thought Pac agreed to the test and it wasnt an issue anymore? You Pac_f@gs crack me up. You scream Pac agreed to the test yet its the first thing you bring up when you say Floyd is scared. Last I checked it was Manny who pulled out of the biggest payday of his life. Twice
Because Donaire fans are scared out of their fukin mind when it comes to Rigondeaux and they see him as a serious threat and a guy that no question can not only defeat Donaire but I think DOMINATE HIM!
And this is no punchers chance BS either, Rigondeaux is the more WELL ROUNDED FIGHTER, he can either Out-Box Donaire or Knock Him Out especially with that Body Shot, Donaire has been looking a little soft and Flabby in my opinion since carrying extra weight
Rigondeaux don't deserve a shot but Mathebulla, Vazquez Jr and Narvaez did?
lets talk about how Donaire took out the weakest Champion at 118 in Montiel and avoided all of the REAL top fighters in that Division, How come he never fought: Agebeko, Moreno, Perez (before he retired), and Mares? He never fought any of them
now at 122 it is a repeat of the same formula, defeated just defeated another weak champion in Mathebulla, about to fight a OLD Jorge Arce who lets be fukin honest, he been in a lot of Wars and he is tailor made for Donaire at this point in his career to score an impressive KO against, then what after that? He will move to 126 and repeat the same formula? Avoid Salido and Gamboa (if he decides to stay in that division) but instead fight Jhonny Gonzalez for his WBC Title :nonono:
You call Mathebulla a bum but what about the bum that Rigo beat to get the WBA Belt. Vargas/Ramos whatevadafuk his name is. At one point Rigo hit him with 5 straight lefts. That dudes a bum. I dont care if he was 20-0 with 11kos.
So we agreed that he is not fighting him because he could derail the train, what about if he gets pay the same amount of money fighting Arce or a little bit more, Do you think he will take the fight? Lts say for argument sake he that he is paid the biggest purse of his boxing career, do think he will have an excuse or he takes the fight?
If the moneys right I think Nonito takes the fight. And im totally nuetral. Dont love Nonito. Dont hate him either.
Refer to my post above. You're full of sh1t just like Donaire. Rigo has to build his name up? Then let me ask you this, WHO THE FK KNOWS Mathebula? ZZZzzzz
Ill be waiting for your answer. :fing02:
You put Rigo in there with Mathebulla he gets beat the f_uck up just like Nonito did. So spear me the Golden Cuban talk like hes the second coming. Mathebulla is a seasoned PRO who has a respectable record. This aint the amuetars with headgear. I remember seeing Rigo dropped before by a jab. Who the hell is he for Nonito do duck? If hes all that he can wait a yr. He needs to pay his dues first.
A fighter/trainer dropping Floyds name never heard that before. You beat a couple of tomato cans thats what happens now a days. What I dont get about these foreign fighters (Martinez, Lara, etc.) is that their own countries dont even support them.
Theres a big enough Cuban community in Florida as well as other places and they have this dude fighting in Palm Springs, WTF. As for Martinez goes when the Argentina soccer team comes to the US the Argentine fans fill have the stadium to cheer them on. Yet Martinez cant sell out a high school gym in the states. If their own people arent going to support their fighter how you gonna blame Floyd for not throwing him a bone?
The good ol "well who has Lara beat argument". We'll pretend we can't name a few Floyd opponents that didn't do a damn thing to deserve to fight him!!:boxing:
Since 2004 when Floyd became P4P1 like who?
Broner has size, skill, and should be more comfortable at 130. Minus
Gamboa has skill, movement, and decent pop. Plus
Gamboa still has some technically flaws like not keeping his hands up. And his chin is suspect. Equals
MDK for Broner
Garcias not teaching Ortiz anything. His defense is s_hit and Ortiz cant even throw a proper straight left. At least not without squaring himself up leaving himself wide open for counter rights. Ortiz needs someone who can teach the basics. Teddy Atlas would be perfect.