Frank Bruno had an incredible body for a boxer and unsurprisingly some fans where haters and can't understand other humans are born with genetics which able them to build outstanding bodies, some of you should educate yourself on different body types and the ins and out of the human body.
Just accept some people have an incredible body through hard work, hard training and I've been accused of being on steroids because I look huge while everyone else at the gym looks like a bag of potatoes.
So I can relate to being accused of being a juicer when you are working hard naturally and are just blessed with great genetics, yet I choose to admire these physiques, don't hate...
http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1227790723-bruno.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39096000/jpg/_39096615_frank_bruno_pa300.jpg
Anthony Joshua should be looked at in awe, as IMO he can claim to have the most outstanding body in all professional sports, or at the very least top 3.
http://e2.365dm.com/14/10/16-9/20/joshua99_3215947.jpg?20141012162448
I've been disappointed with the heavyweight division but there are fights out there to make it interesting but as usual they won't happen.
You have Wlad, Haye, Joshua, fury, Wilder, Povetkin.....why aren't these fighters facing each other and testing each other against risky opponents? I can understand Joshua as he is young but his next fight should be agaisnt Fury, then Haye, then Wilder and then Wlad but it won't happen!
Up where exactly?
Collazo, Diaz, Alexander, Algieri?
His next fight will be against one of the leading fighters in his division. Remember, he lost twice (back to back) but he is now in a position where his next fight will be against a big name, no bums, a world class fighter and you have to admire him for not allowing them defeats to impact his desire to face the very best.
Khan is a very honest man and is just speaking honestly, no fighter can be 100% for every fight and if a fighter struggles and doesn't look as sharp as he usually looks then there will be a valid reason, in this case Khan simply admitted he struggled.
Again you have to admire Khan, as he has admitted he wasn't at his best and is unhappy with his performance, he knows he has to improve and Khan is being attacked for being honest? this is a sad day for boxing that when a fighter speaks honestly because he wants to improve, he is attacked by fans? Pathetic.
Look at Khan's recent opposition, all non-punchers. Khan will not fight Matthysse and never will.
Khan has no fear, that you can't argue with and Khan would be happy to face any fighter in his division but currently his focus is on trying to secure the Mayweather fight, if doesn't happen then expect him to face Brook and silence him and his supporters.
But as for Matthysse, there has to be a reason for the fight to happen and right now it would only be a fight for the fans, not a fight that would make sense but once Mayweather is out of the picture and Manny retires, then we will see certain fights happen.
The UFC is more popular and has more talent because there is no hiding place for fighters. There is no "if the money is right"......no, the top challengers face the belt holders and there is no hiding place or avoiding each other for 5 years, none of them games and that is one of the reasons I prefer UFC as I get to see the fights happen.
In boxing, my favourite era was Benn, Eubank, back then the fights (us fans wanted to witness) happened, rematches took place, none of this running away from each other and if Boxing wants to improve the talent we need to see a shake up of the industry and learn from the UFC.
khan has the heart of a lion and fans should admire him for putting himself right back up there after two big defeats, a lesser man may have walked away.
Khan already called out Lucas Matthysse
http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/8721750/amir-khan-said-he-would-have-no-qualms-in-fighting-the-fearsome-lucas-matthysse
Khan is now a better fighter, more experienced and would win by decision.
I agree, but my case stands that Matts will never get a shot at Khan. Khan hasn't even fought the tougher guys in his division (Brook/Porter/Thurman) that he should be required to fight. He's too busy enraptured in the thought of a Mayweather fight to take any serious risks. I can't wait til Floyd retires.
Definitely agree that he is focused fully on the Mayweather fight and yes I know some will say "hes making excuses" but if a fighter is thinking ahead then I can't see how he can be at his best in fights that don't excite him or fights that pose an element of risk.
For example, Khan is being called out by Brook, now Khan isn't going to fear Brook in any way but there is a chance he could lose and yes if he faced Matthysse there is a chance he could lose and as Mayweather is retiring soon then why take a chance with fights (that can wait)? so yes i'm looking forward to day Mayweather retires, also Manny, as we need to move on from these two names.
How can anyone today beat Floyd when you can't knock him out with one punch and if you do get through, his backup defensive is so good that it means you can't follow up with more clean hits.
Only Manny in his prime could have beaten Mayweather.
Like I said on another thread, they should have fought at least twice, possibly three times as for Manny to have stood any chance of winning, it had to happen when Manny was in his prime as his style is suited to a younger man.
That doesn't mean Manny would have won, but at least we would have been left with no doubt as to who was the best.
Depends, would the ref stop the fight early? as we all remember Benn would at times look like he would be getting battered but find a way to fight back but Benn is one of my favourite fighters, a true entertainer!
Can any Floyd fan show some class and tell us which fighter Mayweather has faced that was in his prime? and thats a genuine question from a fan who hasn't followed all of his career.
Pacquiao is a top 20 ATG, there is no comparison in terms of who was better prime for prime, however, if they two had ever fought at FW, prime v prime...now that could have been magic.
Yes, but the prince retired at 28 and its widely been reported he wasn't as focused on training the more popular he became
And he kept winning, even though he was slipping from the moment he beat Robinson. As John Ingle laments: “Unfortunately the more successful Naz got, the less he trained. He worked harder as an amateur than he did as a professional. He could have been a five-times world champion.”
So did the Prince actually reach his prime? maybe not and respect to the prince for not making excuses when he lost to Barrera, as he could have said he had an injury.
Yes that was his prime. We can't say oh well he retired, therefor he could have been even better! No numb nuts, we've seen all we need to see. He stepped up, got demolished, end of story.
He never fulfilled his true potential, so all you saw was a boxer with 37 fights, 1 defeat, retiring at an early age.
As for getting demolished? losing a fight on points because he was unprepared should have been a lesson for him, but again that all comes back to dedication and preparation and if you look through the history of boxing then all the true great boxers (entertainers) lose fights but unfortunately the Prince never had the desire to rebuild his career but Naseem had the potential to be better then Pacquiao and that you can't argue with...
Look, I'm not gonna debate on how good the Prince was, at his best he seemed almost unbeatable and had more devastating punching power than almost any FW puncher I have seen in my life time.
You're right, he just wasn't dedicated enough, anyone who was in the gym with him at the time knew it and have spoken about it widely. But still, Pacquiao is heads and shoulders above the guy in any form of ranking fighters.
I watched an interesting interview with Nigel Benn the other day on BT Sport, that was a man with dedication and the right attitude, boxing needs characters like the prince and the dark destroyer, these are the fighters that make the sport exciting.
Dumbest quote I have EVER read in my life. This is the guy that people consider to be so great? So Floyd was supposed to stand there and let you hit on him for 12 rounds to make you look good? Unbelievable and not to mention Roach talking about how shot Floyd legs were all these years, has the nerve to say "Floyd ran really well". Roach is overrated to the fullest.
I think you (and others) are misunderstanding why Manny said that, as remember he isn't fluent in English and I expect he said the quote in response to people asking why he never threw more punches, suggesting it wasn't easy to hit Floyd because his movement is excellent or because of Mayweathers style, he couldn't attack as he wanted, so really that was a compliment to Mayweather.
But just like with the post fight interview, his English is limited and people are forgetting that when commenting on what Manny said.
We should be talking about Mayweather v Pacquiao III, instead we watched a contest between two fighters past their best and Mayweather won against Pacquiao whos skillset has declined at his age. Mayweather on the other hand, has a skillset which doesn't decline at the same rate and for that, he has to be praised for being smart enough to fight the way he does.
All great sportsmen need rivals and Mayweather and Pacquiao should have fought at least twice, possibly 3 (depending on the outcomes) and only then would we know who was the best fighter of their era, as in any other sport, the best face the best (in their prime).
This is why UFC has become popular as the fights the fans want, happen, they find a way to make it happen when fighters are at the top of their game.
Still, I won't feel sorry for Pacquiao as he has made a fortune, yet I hope boxing learns from this and in the future we never see a repeat of such a delayed fight taking place.
What would have changed 5 years ago ?
5 years ago, Mayweather had an even bigger advantage over Pacquiao.
The only thing that changed is that Manny is now willing to take blood tests.
Fighters have to fight their rivals when both at their prime, that's how great rivalries take place and you are left with no doubt as to who is the best and you must acknowledge that Manny (in his prime) was an exciting fighter so we missed a chance to see two great fighters (in their prime).
Not that I'm saying Manny would have won five years ago, but the fight would have been more exciting.
Nah, you are just making excuses.
I am left with no doubt as to who the better fighter is.
And I am left with no doubt as to who would have won 5 years ago.
You are just making the same excuses, that we knew would come ^^
Unless sportsmen (and women) face their rivals (in their prime) then its always open to debate.
This is why many fans lose interest in boxing as fans want to see the best fighters face each other when both in their prime.
Tennis is popular as there is no hiding place, the best face the best.
In football (soccer to you) the best face the best.
In UFC, the fights the fans want (happen).
Mayweather may well be the better boxer and I'm not a passionate manny fan, but because they never faced each other in their prime then there will always be that question mark over who would have won.
I wanted Manny to win, but you have to accept that Mayweather gave a defensive masterclass and controlled the fight and Floyd deserved to win.
Manny had his moments and Its obvious if this fight happened 5-6 years ago then it would have been a fantastic fight but this is the fight we had and Floyd deserved to win.