Genuine question now. . . I was just thinking, how would Manny have performed with some of the fighters he fought at CW, at their full weights? . . . If the CWs weren't that much of an impact, howcome fighting Floyd at full 147 didn't work out for him? (bit of a rhetorical one that but still a point).
It took Marquez 4 tries to beat Pac, Bradley had two goes. . . and Floyd, the guy everyone (sort of) said he'd lose to, beat him by atleast 8 clear rounds in one go.
This whole stigma surrounding Manny, fabricated by Arum, as the one to beat Floyd, yet they never fought until now for various reasons but could make a case for it being to gain popular perception from the public for Manny? Were TopRank using Floyd's name to hype Manny all these years? . . . Thoughts?
One look at his CV, or a viewing of his fights prove he's not a hype job.
He's the 2nd best fighter of his era..losing to the best fight of his era doesn't make him a hype job.
He's a modern day great.
Come on man, this is a BS thing to even wonder never mind ask. Losing to Floyd does not make you a hype job. Manny is an incredible fighter, he just lost to somebody that is too intelligent for him and his approach and that other fighter also happens to be a fellow modern great.
If Manny is a hype job then it would be quite hard to explain his rise to the top.
ALSO... asking if Manny is all hype equally serves as something to discredit Floyd over. If someone that has been Floyd's main challenge for 5/6 years was just hype then it would mean very little for Floyd to beat him, which we all know isn't the case.
I think hype job was the wrong word. . . I concede, I f*8ked up making this thread. . . I deserve the rebuttals. I take it on the chin.
Can any Floyd fan show some class and tell us which fighter Mayweather has faced that was in his prime? and thats a genuine question from a fan who hasn't followed all of his career.
the only fraud is mayweather. picking them when they're no longer a threat.
fought oscar when he was past it, fought cotto when he was past it, and fought pac when he was past it.
name me one prime certified hall of famer that floyd beat fairly?????? and this is your TBE??? hahahahahahahahaha get a clue. again the only thing we were fooled on was that manny still had it when that was all propaganda to sell tickets.
and at the end of the day, manny is the people's champ while floyd gets boo'ed and gets zero love. and good riddance. floyd can keep that plastic "0".
The tears of the haters taste so good today.
Come on man, this is a BS thing to even wonder never mind ask. Losing to Floyd does not make you a hype job. Manny is an incredible fighter, he just lost to somebody that is too intelligent for him and his approach and that other fighter also happens to be a fellow modern great.
If Manny is a hype job then it would be quite hard to explain his rise to the top.
ALSO... asking if Manny is all hype equally serves as something to discredit Floyd over. If someone that has been Floyd's main challenge for 5/6 years was just hype then it would mean very little for Floyd to beat him, which we all know isn't the case.
wow ...mannys now considered a hype job you guys are pathetic , an 8 division champ that gave the fans pure excitement I will take that over a runner anyday of the week what a bunch of turds.
Yeah the key to the thread is that it's a question asking for opinions, I never stated it. . . I do question some of Toprank's promotion tactics for him, but tbh Everyone questions Arum, the guy is a clown. . . So you know.
manny gets the love of the people and floyd gets laughed and boo'ed at for being a great runner. what a joke.
so the supposed best in boxing is a running pot shotting coward????? no wonder boxing gets laughed at nowadays. hahahahahahahahahahahaha
See, you expect me to be respectful of Manny, yet you still carry on with this? I haven't said anything distasteful about him because of his performance last night.
I know Manny's a HOFer, I know he's accomplished lots but his entire carrier for the most part was based around him defeating one fighter, I don't see the harm in asking the question. . . Especially in a civilized manor. (Granted it wasn't worded properly and possibly did come across not as well as it could have)
wow ...mannys now considered a hype job you guys are pathetic , an 8 division champ that gave the fans pure excitement I will take that over a runner anyday of the week what a bunch of turds.
the nerve of people to call manny a hype job. who was the biggest warrior and had the better resume and accomplishments from 2000 to the end of 2009??? it certainly was not fraud mayweather.
As a "man of God" u should be ashamed lol. Pac is a fraud. Always has been. Always will be. Dealwithit
Manny Pacquiao has shown enough year after year with consistency and beat some of the top fighters that he is not a hype job. This term is used way too loosely around here. Manny is an ATG and a FOTD for a reason.
I'm not taking away from his other achievements per sey. . . I'm questioning the tactics Top Rank used to promote him. Get me?
It has a lot to do with casuals fans being uneducated of the sport, they see speed, power and explosiveness and know nothing about range control or all the other attributes that goes with the sport. So that added to this notion that Pacquiao was the guy to beat Mayweather. Wouldn't say overhyped though, Pacquiao has too good of a resume to be overhyped, too good.
floyd beat a past it manny. the only thing we were fooled was that manny still had anything left. it was all hype to sell tickets when in truth manny was a shadow of his former self. never like the same killer back in his prime and it showed in the ring. manny was a real killer and warrior in his prime. don't ever forget that.
mayweather fights oscar when he's far past his prime, fights cotto when he is far past his prime, and fights pacquiao far past his prime. the only hype is the person calling himself TBE.
Hahahahaahah
Pacquiao was robbed
Hahahahahaha
Two words that need to be eliminated on this site!!!
...........GREAT.......................& Hyped..................!
They've lost their real meaning.