Naiujiro

All I see a boxer do in a mma ring is pop,pop pop move lateral, pop pop move lateral. simple shit. Let me revise your statement to a more accurate set of events. step, step, tackled, thinks *WTF*, thinks *that's a lot of pressure on my elbow*, POP, BREAK, ref stops fight, arm has a new way to bend. That's pretty accurate.

Your a retard without a imagination,if the grappler takes down and the boxer steps back,what happens?is he going to float? no he's going to fall cause he missed.Dont post again and get angry and add me to your whiny sig. my mistake on the wording.yay,u got me. What does imagination have to do with you not knowing what the hell you're talking about? The grappler isn't going to fall, he isn't doing a fuckin flying tackle you retard. If he's going to be on his knees from the takedown not sprawl, he will still be close enough were the boxer can't light him up with a 1-2 combination. Seriously, you're hella ignorant. You keep imagining that takedowns can be seen a mile away and that they're slower than hell. People who have about a college or better wrestling experience can close distance instantly. They get their hands behind your knees and sling you to the ground instantly. If they know you're going to sprawl, they'll fake the takedown so you sprawl too early, and now you're underneath them in a powerbomb position. Dude, here is some useful advice for you, just because you can defend against your little buddies takedowns while you're play fighting, doesn't mean you can defend against an Olympic caliber or even a collegiate caliber opponent's takedown. Take a seat bitch, and fade into the background with your mentally challenged perception of fighting.

Geezers is just English slang for men it dont mean they old. Originally Posted by Super Cartel Come's on here running peeps off looking like a closet nonce in his avatar pic Fresh ready to pounce on some ass I'll translate it for you a nonce is UK prison slang for a child molester (the lowest of the low) Thank you. I had no clue where this guy was coming from. Geezers means old ass men in the US.

Come on wheres the reply from Naiujiro the flip flop maker? Cheeky fucka he is lol I don't hang out all day in anticipation of your weak ass posts. Can't you right click on a profile to check if they're online or not? Hell, it's not rocket science. Come's on here running peeps off looking like a closet nonce in his avatar pic Fresh ready to pounce on some ass Huh? Are you having a stroke? I can't understand retarded comebacks. Half ya familys income comes from bootlegs you rice picker lol U want it im right here m8... hehe Yawn.... Work all night on that one? Comeback when you don't sound like a 13 year old trying to sling insults. BTW, have your balls even dropped yet?

Look at the 1st page. I just posted some videos of mediocre butterbean. Look at my question. I said in the UFC.

Naijiro, take that photo down or take another picture, it reminds me of an alleycat rummaging through the trash at a lebanese restaurant. Yes and...? :gives:

2 many chuck norris films and 50 cent cd's well bootlegs in Naiujiros case lol 1) Not a chuck norris fan, don't care for the 24/7 roundhouse kicks, gets old. 2) DEFINITELY NOT a 50 cent fan. Wait, wait, were you trying to bag on me? Ohohoho. Wow, I didn't even notice that. I think you need to take a break and rework your insults. It's like Carrot Top is insulting me, I can take this all day long.

The truth however is a bood boxer can make it in mma by learning basic wrestling defense. No, basic wrestling only gets you so far as well. What happens when you go against a guy that has college or greater wrestling skill? The boxing with basic wrestling defense IS going to be taken down at will, and if the college wrestler knows some subs, then the boxer IS going to get tooled. A complete fighter needs: Boxer's hands Muey Tai legs and clenches Wrestling Takedowns Judo base BJJ submissions Boxing is only a small part of a complete fighter. A strict boxer would not fare well even with basic takedown defense. If his opponent has good kicks that snap, the boxer's takedown defense is going to get REALLY slow after taking a couple of kicks to his kneecaps and nerves in his legs. Not to mention a boxer's clench ability is laughable compared to a judo or muey tai clench. Basically, boxing is NOT the ultimate form of fighting, in fact it's not even close. That same principle applies to Judo, wrestling, and others. Each style has it's element where it specializes in. Get over it folks, and enough of this ludicrous talk about a "boxer will soon expose MMA for what they are." LEARN about real fighting, and how real fights progress. People who say stupid shit like that need to get a fuckin epiphany. Geeze, loads of dumbfucks around here.

I agree with the dude that started the thread Its a toughman contest just done up prettier... Yes, and boxing is just a 'Rock'em Sock'em' Robot battle done up pretty too. I know u guys who love the sport are gonna try and rib me talking about but yeh its skills when they hit the floor,well i dont give a fuck Its looks like cheap gay porn to me and its fucking boring to watch. Like the worse John ruiz fight its Boring proper.Sweating all over each other and hugging dam near half naked makes me violently ill lol I never get the whole 'gay porn' thing. I'm sorry, are the fighters' having intercourse on TV and we just don't know it? No one is having sex in there you dumb shit. I swear, you guys always make the same weak ass 'gay porn' jokes. It lost its novelty after the 150th time. Repeating that shit for the 10000th time isn't going to make it funny again. Every one of you guys are always so quick to shout that you don't watch gay porn, when nobody asked you. WTF??? If you guys ever go to jail, I'm sure you will 'accidentally' fall to your knees and service guys in the shower on your first day there. You guys are hella retarded, and straight up closet fruits. UFC= Ur fucking crap Give me Boxing anyday of the week 24/7 Screw giving you boxing 24/7, someone needs to give you some damn eyeglasses and a brain. I'm sure you're in need of those far more then boxing. I know u guys who love the sport are gonna try and rib me "Try" involves the possibility of failure, we don't "try", we dismantle your varying degrees of retardation and destroy your argument, period. In the meantime, try aborting yourself. Ooops, I don't want to leave the possibility of failure in there. Let me fix that sentence. In the meantime, ABORT YOURSELF.

Listen u fake manny pacquiao crossdresser i was stating my views which is what a forum is about. Havent u got some flip flops you should be making? That's your making fun of me. LOL. That's hella weak. Hey John, stop typing and go back to your normal activities eg. screwing your sister and turning your family tree back into an oval. Clitbreath this is a boxing forum take ur bullshit to a MMA forum and talk about that bullshit all day long.. Just because this is a boxing forum, doesn't mean your bullshit explanations actually hold water here. A dumbass on any forum is STILL a dumbass. You're a dumbass wherever you go. The geezers are sweating all over each other half naked, Geezers? What are you 12? These guys are hardly up there in years. Most of their ages range from 20-32. Yeah, they're REALLY up there in years. Stupid ass. Now ive no problem with guys that bat for the other team but fuck all that it looks way to fruity for me.. Again, get fuckin eyeglasses, no one's fuckin anybody. Get over it. You should figure out what REAL fights look like. m8 dont bother with the dictionary you fuckers need that living in huts and shit.U going on like a cheerleader for the sport now Jackie calm down and count to 10 before replying Dude, seriously layoff fuckin your sister and livestock. Your handicap attempts to "burn" me are pathetic. Go lick a lawn mower, bitch.

I hate Dana too. He seems so insecure about boxing. He always has to bring it up in a negative light in order to bring UFC up. That's gay. He's gay and all those jujitso fighters are gay. Why don;t you fucking mention Barrera vs Marquez. Has there been a better fight in the history of UFC, hell no, and that's not even a top 200 fight in the history of boxing. Truth is they get more bloody and less damaging knockouts cause of the small gloves and they think they are real. They are real until they get hit once or twice and then they wanna do monkey sex. Why does Dana want a grappler mmaer to fight a boxer cause Dana like to jerk off to monkey sex, and then when a boxer with some little, tiny wrestling background wants to fight Sherk sort of to spep in for Floyd Dana doesn't want it. Yawn... I'm sure your penis folds into your body right? That's a weak ass troll job. 3/10. LEAVE.

or the grappler tries to sprawl,and then the boxer moves back and then pops the grappler while he's on his knees with a quick jab,straight right combo.:rofl: Why would the grappler sprawl and get on his knees for no reason? He's not giving a blow job, you retard. For God's sake, if you're going to make a whitty comeback, at least know the difference between sprawl and takedown. God, you're retarded. I mean, is your brain actually connected to your body when you type? And I seriously don't get what the whole ":rofl:" is about. I guess, when you're a dumbass everything is funny.

Naiujiro i talk the way i talk you rice picker I dont give 2 flip flops what the fuck anyword means in the US U got Blazed and u know this,.. You dumb fuck with a vagina for a brain. I am not ASIAN. I'm half black and half white, you fuckin cunt bitch. Why don't you go spaze in a corner with your half blind cock sucking self. And fair play for Porlie translating it for your Bootleg selling self Oh look, another weak ass asian joke. Go fuck a stump. Oh and i would'nt talk about sisters m8 has yours is most likely giving the americans the Most blowjobs for $5 dollers sucky sucky love you long time to provide leccy for your cotton picking ass Again, you know nothing about me, I don't have brothers or sisters. Here's a real chore for your wannabe 'keyboard warrior' self, find the lame SOB who father your shitty ass. Since sons grow up like their fathers, check the local jail directories, I'm sure he's getting plowed all up the ass right now. Shit, it's like deja vu for your ignorant ass. And you were the fastest sperm when your dad screwed your mom? Here's a UK slang that I'm sure your English challenged self can figure out. Piss off.

No UFC fighter has ever fought in a boxing match coz they know they will get licked. On the other hand...mediocre/retired boxers have fought in the UFC and has been successful most of the time. Ummm.... one question, WHO and WHEN in the UFC?

Suck ya moms clit rice picker i dont really giv 2 fucks what u say from now on to be honest.. Aint u got no goats to milk? dvd's to sell? Shit ur not asian? Let me get this right your half black and half white? M8 i'd have a one to one with your mom straight away bro cuz i reckon shes been sucky sucky with someone like wok chunny she's having you on m8 cant you see it? your about as black has ricky hatton? shit dude at least my moms aint a liar. I know where im from and who i am. You have been watching mtv all these years imagining your dad was someone like the rap artist Chingy turns out his more like Bruce lee hehehe I will have two corn rolls,give me a duck suck yong and fried rice please And i can see you have now changed your avatar picture hahahah 1 nil to me.... You're such a fucking retard. You can't distinguish anyone's ethnicity because you're so sheltered. I bet you could tell the difference between a chinese man and a Filipino man. Grow up, and widen your anemic association of friends. Personally speaking, I hope you get mugged by a japanese guy, your bitch ass could never point the guy out in a line up if it only had him and the wu tang clan present. I'm done talking to your handicapped self. LEAVE.

1) Boxing is not dying, it has cycles, (not like a woman) that it goes through like any other sport. 2) Equating the rise in MMA to boxings downfall is just plain dumb. If you're to say MMA is responsible for any sport's direct decline, it'd be pro wrestling. 3) THERE CAN BE more then 1 combat sport you know. 4) Boxing may not retain the position as the #1 combat sport, but I highly doubt it'll fall below #2 in the next 20 years. and 5) The only real trouble that boxing has ever faced is its own dishonesty, and the cans that it customarily feeds it's big name boxers for X amount of years. Other then that, it's going to still be here for a long while. This subject has been done to death. Thread Done.

I'll never watch mma, because I can learn nothing from it that would benefit me inside the boxing ring. Are you training to be a pro boxer? or are you just hoping every fight you get in, will be conveniently in a ring, and your opponent would have never viewed MMA before or practiced how to tackle? Just a question though.

UFC and PRIDE is somewhat sissy many top flight fights end by tapping out. When a major boxing star quits it is covered up or the fighter will always be disrespected ala Duran,Friteas, Golata Hahaha..... wow,.... I mean wow. I guess people this dumb DO exist! Give me 60 seconds with this tard and I'll teach the bitch what true pain is. Do you really think that these guys enjoy tapping out? Do you think they come into a fight and say, "hmmm, if he grabs my arm too rough I'm going to quit."? These guys don't tap out unless they have to. Ever had your shoulder ripped out, your forearm broke in half, or all the blood going to your brain cut-off and you can't do shit about it? Hummm thought not. Before you think to your simple-minded self,.... wait he probably hasn't either, I've professionally practice Juijitsu for 7 years and BJJ for 4 years. Huge, buff, strong, tough guys get dropped like little toddlers when the blood to their brain gets cut-off. You know what happens if they don't tap?.... Brain Damage!? ... who would of guessed? I guess they are sissys for not wanting to be turned into a vegetable for the rest of their natural life,.... even though they had already lost. Comeback when you don't sound/look/think like a dumbass. On topic~ I agree with the guy, MMA is a fad. That's not really an insult. And I'll agree with some of the guys on the forum when I say the problem with you guys comparing MMA and boxing is when you say one creates a better fighter then another. If you are talking art wise, I personally feel boxing is more of an art because, in part, the limited motion given to the boxers makes them learn to be more creative and effective in predicting their opponents moves. But in regards to being a better fighter, MMA is without a doubt the way. This point is NOT debatable, and anyone who thinks otherwise should choke on a knife.... cause they really are freakin dumb and it's purely astounding that they've survived in the real world so long with that head on their shoulders. And to all those people who say MMA are just guys who master nothin and punch like retards. You know NOTHIN, not a damn thing. There are people who go around mastering different arts. Yes, they do exist. They are also called MMA. In fact, how do you think the UFC was made? When you Sack-Huggers finish your trip back to reality, don't freakin insult a style that purely owns all other styles. You just continue to look like Sack-Huggers.:puppy_dog

I know one guy who won't take you up on it...... vvvvvvvvvv Hahaha, yeah... Gunstar is a little pussy who contradicts himself whenever he opens his mouth. He's so oblivious to what he says. I hope he learns to stop leaving himself so open, or else he wont ever stop us -and every other poster on this forum- from having our way with him. :bukkake:

Most people who watch are not fighters. My point is that for someone watching purely for entertainment value, the ground game is boring. Yeah, it takes skill. Skill doesn't automatically translate into excitement... Yeah, that seems to be the same thing with people not appreciating 12 rounds of boxing and saying it's boring cause people rarely ever get knocked out. There are a lot of people that don't appreciate the skill involved in these combat sports. I've found the easiest way to educate ones about the skill that's involved in combat sports, is to actually school them in a one-on-one match. It's a humbling experience to get punched and pounded like you stole their money. Some people have to learn the hard way. ...That is, unless their friends around them are making fun of how little they know about the sport, then that usually makes them want to at least know the basics/or keep silent in conversations.

Thats nice to know,but majority of the time its grade school fighting.Even u can admit this.I hate when they name what martial art they know.They dont even do that shit in the ring,its straight up street fighting!Yeah, I wish it was required that you had to be good at, at least one martial art(high school level wrestling doesn't count) to compete. Some of these TUFers/IFLers make me cringe at their punching/kicking/juijitsu. One retard in particular that I saw, had Juijitsu tatted on his back in big bold letters, ... and didn't know any Juijitsu. :wtf: As MMA continues, there will be stricter penalties for sloppy fighting or blanketing a person and not doing anything. Personally, I try to refrain from most IFL/TUF fights unless the guys have proven that they are seasoned vets. in the sport.

I'll swear that some of the TUF guys are brought in as fish for the 2-3 sharks they have on the show. Some of the guys are not too bad, but others are in way over their heads. About the guys looking all tough and then sucking, that is not uncommon in our gym. Young, tattooed, snarling dudes come in and are bragging about their past 'training' and they just get embarrassed. They never come back either. The ones who come in looking to LEARN, rather than act all tough, are the ones who come back and do quite well. Don't be too hard on the IFL, one of our guys fought in it :) Yeah, I hope Dana changes that shark bait habit he has, especially since he struck the deal with HBO, and is planing to make spike the TUFfers fight channel. Granted there are some pretty decent guys in the IFL (but most of them make me really shiver at the lack of technique, most noticeably in many fighters BJJ)

:offtopic: Boxing>MMA ....nuff said Damn I need some Troll-Be-Gone for this bitch. The fucker wont catch a clue that people don't like him, cause he doesn't contribute anything to any conversation. This troll has the reasoning power of a broken condom. Leave. On topic, some of the kicks I see in the IFL make me want to laugh at how weak /slow they are. I'm sure that if crocop saw those guys kick, he'd find them and castrate them out of frustration for their technique with his own kicks.

One of the fights ended because someone blacked out from a chokehold... Thats like a cheap shot. If you win a street fight like that you earn no respect. Its like a low blow. idk, i guess for boxing junkies, who are used to class, its hard to get into this stuff. I can definetly see people liking it though Ummm,... I fail to see the "cheap" part of cutting off the blood to a person's brain to win a fight? Please expound.

I don't even understand the popularity of MMA. The only exciting part is the stand up and people getting knocked out, which is just like boxing basically... Take a class at your local Brazilian Juijitsu place. Spare with one of them, and try to beat him. Then you will appreciate the ground game in MMA. sidenote- I'm not taking about other dudes lying on their opponent and not trying to do anything, (aka. the human blanket technique) I'm talking about actual maneuvering to joint locks and subs. I appreciate good BJJ just as much as a Crocop kick to the body.

I think MMA is fake just like the WWF is, people forget 20 years ago people thought that WWF was real, I remember all kids in school use to debate about Tyson and Hulk Hogan, we all know now Tyson will KO Hogan's ass out in real fight! I think MMA does a little better job then the old WWF, they make it look a little more real, after seeing many video's from MMA fights, I think the whole sport is fake just like WWF. I saw the Ray Mercer fight against that Japanese guy, Mercer was def paid some money for that fight just to make MMA look good, it's easy to get some old broke ass boxers to make your sport look good and real. Sorry guys, all you guys are getting :owned: by the MMA just like the old WWF 20 years ago! One day we will find out the truth about MMA and we will all know it's fake! :owned: Ummm.... Try it out, I'm sure if you get in a lock and it's hurting, it wont break anything. After all, it is fake right? Check out lockflow.com look under grapples then Kimura. Have a friend of yours' watch the video, and then have him do it on you. Remember to have him continually rotate your arm even if it hurts. Most important thing, please make a topic after you have him do that move fully on you. Then tell us the results okay? ^_^b'

Hellish. And not to mention people who knock ground combat and wrestling have never been put in a chicken wing before. I'd pay to see that fucking shit. Just how many decibels will they scream Ed Herman's quote comes to mind, "I should have passed out like a man, instead I tapped out like a little bitch." These retards don't know what real pain is. They have no comprehension of what it feels like to get your shoulder slowly ripped out of its socket while the muscle around it is being torn in two, strand by strand. And they certainly can't imagine having their leg gradually bent back until their tendon is being peeled off of their bone. These guys are clueless. They need to stop referring to boxing as the sweet science, since they know absolutely nothing about the science of fighting, let alone the science of boxing. Since they can't comprehend what makes boxing so beautiful, they need to stop talking like they have some kind of intelligence behind what they say.

One has to remember, MMA events and boxing are both sporting events with specialized rules in each venue which a person must train for specifically. Make a MMAer fight by boxing rules against a decent boxer and he loses. Make a boxer with no MMA experience fight a good MMAer and he loses. Thanks for the reminder.... I'm sure everyone on these boards will forget that principle every time a new thread is made. :gives: Thanks again for your input, though. Yeah, that article really had a nice fresh view point of striking. Footwork and striking always has to adapt to what factors are in play. Anyone who says otherwise needs to learn the dynamics of fighting. Saying MMA footwork would kill boxing is just stupid, since boxing footwork is refined for the factors in play. And the same principle applies in the reverse situation.

oranges or apples............... it dont matter if they are diffrent sports ...............mma sucks bad ...i hate it ........but you have a better chance at being a champ in mma cuz its just street fighting with trainging the shit sucks .................i cant stand it............its bullshit....all the wrestling is sensless.....i dont wanna understand it and hate it i dont care if it is another contact sport two guys resting on each other is gay............if i wanna see wrestling ill watch 2 women mudd wrestle ill leave mma for the gayasses:boxing: I hope I get into a fight with you someday. I would dismantle you piece by piece. I'm sure if you're not already knocked out from the shear pain, you will be reflecting on how gay it is to be on the receiving end of a joint submission. Don't knock shit unless you know at least the basics of it. Cause if you do, you'll be looking like a retard to everyone here.

Don't feel blue. If it makes you feel any better, I'll let you know when Bad Karma hits me. Then we can cry on each others e-shoulders Cracker? Damn that's hella :lame: If you could grow past 3 feet, I'm sure Knives would start taking your insults more seriously. You know nothing. You are nothing. You are NOT funny. Find a tranny and get the fuck off these forums.