Well, does this just discount some of the nonsense we hear that a "boxer" would get destroyed or taken down from a wrestler?
Maybe it does not favor the boxer, but I think the point here is that if somebody like a wrestler is coming in, he better be prepared to take a strike or two.
Just think how fast and powerful Tyson was, now imagine trying to figure out a way to take him down before he hits you.
This is why I have said, take an elite boxer like Tyson (when he was in his prime, motivated, determined to learn), and give him 2-3 years of training/preperation (or maybe less), and he will do well.
In an interview from boxing****, Chuck's own trainer said Tyson would of done well.
I do not want anybody to get carried away thinking that all you need is boxing because that would be wrong, you need to learn how to grapple and kick as well, but the importance of knowing how to box or strike like a boxer is very important.
Bruce Lee was a martial artist who always strived to do better, trying to perfect fighting, and one form he incorprated was boxing.
damn chuck got smashed on...i thought it was gonna be a better fight....rampage was a beast last night...lost a couple bucks...thought chuck was gonna take this fight
Uh exuse me Mr. Violence, but what is up with your not so subtle racism? Bannana, tire lips and only a dumb ass ------ like tyson blah blah blah?
Do you think you are fooling anyone with that type of talk? Let me be clear, racism is the choice of mental midgets. I have seen nothing in your posts that demonstrate you are capable or representing "the master race" (lol) or even your own preference for mma.
The truth however is a bood boxer can make it in mma by learning basic wrestling defense.
No, basic wrestling only gets you so far as well. What happens when you go against a guy that has college or greater wrestling skill? The boxing with basic wrestling defense IS going to be taken down at will, and if the college wrestler knows some subs, then the boxer IS going to get tooled.
A complete fighter needs:
Boxer's hands
Muey Tai legs and clenches
Wrestling Takedowns
Judo base
BJJ submissions
Boxing is only a small part of a complete fighter. A strict boxer would not fare well even with basic takedown defense. If his opponent has good kicks that snap, the boxer's takedown defense is going to get REALLY slow after taking a couple of kicks to his kneecaps and nerves in his legs. Not to mention a boxer's clench ability is laughable compared to a judo or muey tai clench.
Basically, boxing is NOT the ultimate form of fighting, in fact it's not even close. That same principle applies to Judo, wrestling, and others. Each style has it's element where it specializes in. Get over it folks, and enough of this ludicrous talk about a "boxer will soon expose MMA for what they are." LEARN about real fighting, and how real fights progress. People who say stupid shit like that need to get a fuckin epiphany. Geeze, loads of dumbfucks around here.
Good go wrap your tire lips around some then.
Sheezus christ, get the **** out of here you ***got. Everyone knows you have no idea what youre talking about you piece of ****.
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It's boy YOU'RE stupid NOT boy YOUR stupid.....and you're calling me stupid?...learn some English, boy.
and to top it off,u change the subject on how big of a moron u r with grammar corrections. It always falls in order. now continue staring at the sun. Your ability to talk shit is disturbing.
He had to pay it to the IRS. The bum is broke as a joke. All the money that he makes has to go to pay the IRS. Tyson is naturally retarded. Who the fuck makes 400 million than ends up broke. I'll tell you who: TYSON
yeah and u know this how? even the IRS doesnt take all your money. boy your stupid. Its pointless talking to u,its equal to talking to a 5 year old.and hoping they understand. Now go stare at the sun some more
Millionaire my ass. Tyson was seen shopping at a thriftstore there were even pictures of him shopping there. Millionaires don't buy used clothing. Tyson is a moron pure and simple. Only a ------would make 400 million and then blow it. Idiot.
Mike Tyson News: Tyson's Paradise Valley home sold
NewsSource: azcentral
Boxer Mike Tyson has sold his Paradise Valley house for $2.339 million just two years after he paid $2.1 million for the mountainside enclave.
The 7,788-square-foot property was built in 1988. It sits on the west side of Mummy Mountain behind a private gate at the end of a cul de sac. The main house has five bedrooms, a game room and a library. There's also a guest house and a four-car garage.
“It's very well built and sits on a gorgeous lot,'' said Kris LaCroix of the Equitable Real Estate Co. She had the listing and also noted that it was “a pleasure'' working with Tyson on the sale.
The property initially listed for $2.45 million, LaCroix said. It was on the market for more than 110 days, according to the Arizona Regional Multiple Listing Service. The MLS average market time for single-family homes in March was 92.59 days, though agents that specialize in top end houses say those properties typically take longer to sell since the buyer pool is smaller and more picky.
Thomas M. Connelly, a Phoenix attorney representing Tyson in that case, said that as far as he knows, the decision to sell the house had been made before the arrest. “There's no relationship between that (the house sale) and the incident we're defending,'' he said. Tyson bought the house in May of 2005. A limited liability partnership called Oppenheimer Partners Properties is the new owner. The company is controlled by Eric Hamburger and Karl Haytcher, according to state records.
The media made a commotion when Tyson began building a pigeon coop in the backyard of the house shortly after buying it. He didn't have the proper permits, but his representatives later filed for a building permit for a coop that was expected to house 85 to 100 birds.
let me guess after he sold this house he let all of the IRS have it? I just proved how fuckin stupid u r.And thats only 1 thing. Take your own advice and go eat a peanut and stare at the sun.:rofl:
Tyson is too stupid to be able to learn any MMA skills. He could learn boxing but not MMA it takes more brains.
Do you box yourself? If you did you'll know that it's far from simple to learn which is why it's called the sweet science. Don't get it twisted!
it doesnt take much to be richer than Tyson, the dumb ass is bankrupt. LOL
yeah u just proved your ass is a moron. He's broke to me and u. He's still a millionaire dumbass,fuckin stuuuuuuuuuuuupid.He just doesnt have the money he used to to live the life style he used to have. Or do u think the millions he got even after admitting bankruptcy went straight to the IRS? I think your the 1 that needs a peanut for an E for effort.
His career was clearly over way before that. That would be like shitting on Royce Gracie for losing to Matt Hughes.
like I told parody,dont mind the idiot,he is clearly a moron.And all his post proves it,bet he was in special education classes.
Yeah he made it all then blew it. I'M RICHER than he is now cuz he was too stupid to manage money correctly. Go eat some bananas.
Oh yeah your rich,like im going to believe some internet moron. So im guessing your a millionaire too right? with a name like Mr.Violence that just spells moron.:rofl:
That's why he gets ko'd by club fighter McBride right. Oh I see.
His career was clearly over way before that. That would be like shitting on Royce Gracie for losing to Matt Hughes.
Tyson too stupid to learn MMA? Did'nt he have a lot of street fights?
The guy is clearly a veeeeeery slow moron.The correct thoughts appear in his head 5 seconds after he said the wrong 1s out loud.:rofl:
and for your comment on Tyson is too stupid to learn mma.Tyson got a title in a year and a half being pro.It takes more then just power for that to happen u moron.
Although Tyson got help from his corner he still had to initiate that plan himself.And that guy u called "stupid" has made 100,000 times more money then u will ever make at 20 years old.moron.:rofl:
Dont be so ignorant, you dont realise the science involved in not only boxing but the Cus D`amato system that Tyson was taught. He wasnt just training, he was taught a whole philosophy from D`amato which was unique, different from the normal training concepts. No mma "striker" has a shadow of the sill or knowledge Tyson did in how to punch and not be punched.
dont mind the idiot,he's a special one.:rofl:
Tyson is too stupid to be able to learn any MMA skills. He could learn boxing but not MMA it takes more brains.Dont be so ignorant, you dont realise the science involved in not only boxing but the Cus D`amato system that Tyson was taught. He wasnt just training, he was taught a whole philosophy from D`amato which was unique, different from the normal training concepts. No mma "striker" has a shadow of the sill or knowledge Tyson did in how to punch and not be punched.