When you go back to a Hearn IFL video once it's a month or two old, it's hilarious to see all of the things he lied about, all the predictions proven wrong, etc. It's comical. I think the guy is an incredible promoter and I consider myself a fan of Hearn, but the dude is so full of **** that it's unbelievable the UK fans buy into his act.
Gary was also supposed to unify with LSC last year.
Yes he was. Let's see if it finally happens or not. There have been times Gary was willing to do the fight immediately, but Leo wanted a tune up. There have been times Leo was willing to do the fight immediately, but Gary wanted a tune up. You know Haymon. He's not going to be in a rush to knock off one of his champions. I'd say chances are good it happens this year, but anything is possible.
Arum and Warren obviously trying to get Fury the WBO mandatory. Beating Rivas gets Fury to #1 or #2 if Joshua beats Miller and Whyte goes the WBC route. Or if Whyte jumps ship to ESPN, they just have to get Schwarz out of the way. Fury vs. Whyte for the vacant WBO title would be a huge fight.
Where are the obnoxious AJ fans now who were saying that $15M for Wilder vs AJ was a fair number? Here's a big helping of crow, chow down.
Even worse, most of them were insisting Wilder should take the initial 12.5 flat fee for a fight in the UK.
Now it's looking like he's going to get 40 million for a fight in the US.
Canelo is averaging $35 million guaranteed.
I’ve seen it reported many times that Canelo signed an 11-fight, $365 million deal with DAZN. That’s inaccurate. The fight with Fielding was completed before the new deal was signed. It’s really a 10-fight, $350 million deal— Mike Coppinger (@MikeCoppinger) March 1, 2019
Appreciate the info. Coppinger is usually accurate, so I'll assume he's correct, but it still means a 33.1 average for the deal, even if the Fielding fight was 15 and the others were 35.
Wilder, the biggest hypejob in the sport. The most protected paperchamp in the world.
Never fought anybody thats not controlled by Haymon or has been viewed as pretty much shot.
There are two world heavyweight champions, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder.
They each fought twice last year. Joshua's two opponents are ranked #5 and #13 right now and Wilder's two opponents are ranked #3 and #8 right now.
Sorry
Canelo is king wilder ain’t seeing that canelo type money
Well apparently he is. I know it's strange, but that's the boxing landscape right now for whatever reason.
Why is the WBO vacant?
And Fury had an ordered fight for a title just a couple of weeks ago. Skipping that to position himself for another title that might become vacant in the future would be the very definition of ducking.
Arum and Warren are the two biggest power brokers in the WBO. They've now formed an alliance to essentially share all of Warren's top fighters. At any given time, Arum and Warren typically control 90% of the WBO titles above 115 pounds. You don't think they're going to do everything possible to gain control of the WBO heavyweight title?
It's very very difficult to keep three belts unified, Joshua, win or lose, isn't going to hold three titles long term. So Arum and Warren are preparing Fury in the ratings to get the belt when Joshua likely gives it up.
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You must not have actually read my post. Mayweather's Showtime deal was six fights, 180 million. 30 million per fight. Wilder's deal would be 33.
Yes Mayweather ended up making more because he ended up fighting Pacquiao in one of those fights, but in terms of the guarantee going into the multifight deal, I don't know that there's been a bigger deal than this supposed DAZN/Wilder deal.
DAZN is offering Wilder a three fight deal. 20 million vs. Breazeale. 40 million vs. Joshua. 50 million vs. Joshua in a rematch if he wins the first fight and 30 million in a rematch if he loses the first fight.
We don't know if he'd end up earning 50 million or 30 million in the rematch, so let's average it to 40 million for the rematch. Plus 40 for the first fight and 20 for Breazeale.
That's 100 million for a three fight deal.
Coppinger now confirming my report:
https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1105988158515220480
Coppinger of Ring mag saying it's $100m 3 fight deal with the last 2 fights with AJ.
DEVELOPING: John Skipper offered Deontay Wilder a 3-fight deal worth roughly $100M to fight on DAZN yesterday, per sources. Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel confirmed money “in that ballpark.” Dominic Breazeale at $20M, then two fights with Anthony Joshua valued around $40M per— Mike Coppinger (@MikeCoppinger) March 14, 2019
Looks like my source at MSG was correct as I was the first to report 3 fights/100 million and reported it exclusively here on boxingscene yesterday.
Where are you getting these numbers from?
ESPN is reporting that Wilder would make at least 20 million vs. Breazeale and more than double that vs. Joshua. The 30 & 50 figures for a Joshua rematch were told to me by a friend that's a higher up at MSG that usually has accurate boxing gossip.
Wilders opponents are ranked higher because Wilder struggled vs both, almost got knocked out by old Ortiz and 90% thought he lost vs Fury.
When you fight better competition, you're more likely to struggle.
Ortiz was several years younger than Klitschko was when Joshua almost got knocked out.
Less than half of ringside experts thought Wilder lost to Fury. Very few thought Wilder won, but a significant portion scored the fight a draw.
90% of this site thinks Wilder lost because 90% of this site is obsessive UK fans.
"Hi, I just registered, but my friends are ultra connected and I'll write things without providing any sources. Please take me seriously, I have no agendas, pinky promise."
You don't feel stupid mocking me when I've already been proven correct?
Trolls will think Fury won? I think you'll find it's trolls who think he didn't. But don't mind me.
No, lots of people thought Fury won. Lots of people thought it was a draw. Very few thought Wilder won.
But trolls say "everybody knows Fury won" even though a significant amount of experts didn't have him winning.
Big difference between thinking Fury won and saying everybody thinks he won.
The public is fascinated with perfect records. Wilder has a draw. Nobody will care if he reaches 49-0-1.
A lot of trolls will say "everybody thinks he lost to Fury." Which isn't true, but a lot of people did have Fury winning and a lot of people had a draw. If you look at the major website reporters, 20% or less had Wilder winning, so he'll never be thought of like a Marciano.
A few people saying it could have been scored a draw isn't the way boxing works.
The way boxing works is that professional judges, not biased UK fans on a message board, score the fight. The fight was ruled a draw. Many of the most respected publications and journalists scored the fight a draw or a Wilder win. Fury winning was a more common scorecard than Wilder winning among ringside experts, but so many ringside experts scored the fight a draw that a Fury win was actually the minority opinion.
Fury winning is only a majority opinion among fans, because fans almost always believe whatever the broadcast tells them, and the TV judge had Fury winning.
I had Fury winning a very very close fight, but find it ridiculous to cry robbery when a fight that close is ruled a draw.
But this site is infested with obsessive UK fans that had crazy score cards like 10 rounds to 2. So to them, a draw was an absolute travesty.
If true (and without sources this. Hold be pure rubbish) I just hope it’s enough to entice wilder to sign so we can hopefully finally get this matchup with AJ
ESPN reported DAZN's offer includes more than 20 million vs. Breazeale and over double that for Joshua.
Canelo: $365M/11=~$33.18M/fight
Wilder: $100M/3=~$33.33M/fight
Wilder is worth more than Canelo.
BBBOOOMMMBBB SSSQQQUUUAAADDD!
This is exactly what I said yesterday but people were skeptical because I couldn't name my source.
This guy has serious problems.
wilder is just a fighter bro. he's not your dad,.
If your position was solid, you'd be attacking my argument instead of attacking me personally.
We both know, in the very recent past, that Hearn has repeatedly said the only way the fight can happen is if Wilder jumps ship to DAZN. If Hearn can't keep his story straight, how can you possibly know which of his stories to believe?
Turned it down to make 2/3 mil on Showtime. Pure filthy ducking going on here.
The very article you're responding to says Wilder was guaranteed a minimum of ten million in his last fight. Why are you still lying and claiming he makes 2-3?
What is clear is that either Wilder or his handlers do not want to fight Joshua.
That is beyond dispute at this moment in time.
I don't know whether they want to fight him or not.
But it's easy to dispute.
Hearn says he'll only allow the fight to happen if Wilder signs with DAZN, even though Joshua isn't signed to DAZN. Meanwhile, Showtime is willing to pay more for the fight than DAZN is willing to pay.
So why should the fight be on DAZN when Showtime is willing to pay more? Because Hearn refuses to allow it? Okay, but how is that Wilder's fault?
Right. What exactly has he changed?
Hearn repeatedly said recently that the fight can only happen if Wilder signs with DAZN. Now you're claiming Hearn also said the fight can happen on Showtime.
He has said it could happen if SHO offers more. So they should if they want it. right?
SHO did offer more. Hearn is lying. You should know Hearn is lying because he changes his story every day.
As long as HE is happy with what HE makes it doesn't matter WTF we think and that is the harsh reality of it. Yeah AJ can look down upon $4 Million Purse and laugh at it I guess but I myself and most of you on this damn forum are in no position financially to be laughing at $4 Million. Most of us don't have 3 Million Pennies ($10K) so this obsession with fighters purse is becoming a bit disturbing with fans pretending like what AJ getting is what they're getting as well
That being said, it is a lot of BACK END Money that comes in from all over the place that fighters with promoters don't know about in which guys who don't have promoters receives. You honestly think Spence Jr and Mikey Garcia each made $3 Million this past Saturday and that is it? :lol1:
All of these trolls that keep citing Wilder's declared purse will have to eat a lot of crow when Joshua has to declare his purse for the first time ever on 6/1 and it's nowhere near what these obsessive UK fans claim he makes.
Breazeale became mandatory thanks to Haymon knowing how to maneuver through the rules and ratings. Breazeale is getting a second world heavyweight title shot due to Haymon's leverage and expertise. Breazeale's biggest win is Amir Mansour, yet he's a millionaire many times over. Would have been ludicrous to force a purse bid. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.