Bout subject to comission approval. Its schedule 10-25-08. Whats do you guys think???
When is Chavez Jr. gonna get sum real fights??? If he's been pushed to the limit by these guys then there's no question that he doesn't belong in big money fights. Big money fights mean quality opposition, which Chavez Jr. has not fought yet. Lets face it... da first good guy he faces will become his first pro defeat.
Yeah because Jotto ran for 6 rounds...Cintron went down on his sword not on his knees...pschologically.,cintron is in a better place then Jotto...
Unfortunately for you psycological advantages dont always win fights...rare if anything else
And Cotto was put in life or death scenarios with Torres and Corley.
Two shit fighters.
Maybe not in the Feliciano respect.................but............
You're obviously sayin that they are shit fighters to defend your point of view. Torres hasnt loss since the Cotto fight...& as a matter of fact he's improving gradually...what da Holt fight? he got kayoed by a headbutt...& as far as chop-chop goes he is a technically sound boxer who's record is defenitely deceiving. Dam how do u manage to post in here...u dont kno shit about boxing dawg...I actually feel sorry for you. If Jim Lampley ever sees your posts he'll cry harder than he did when Cotto lost.
Probably would have been a better match up(both men in their prime). At least he had a punch to possibly hurt Margarito. Anyone else agree/disagree?
Shit i most defenitely agree...but Trinidad shouldnt be fightin now
Zab is the type of fighter you want to keep beleiving but yet lets you down in every fight. He can give Margarito problems with his great hand speed, im not sure that he can hurt him at all, but Zab is known for fading late in fights & that you just cant do with Margarito.
A Univerally Unbiased View would be:
Cintron can land 1 bomb, and it's over. We're all in agreement.
Cotto has the much, much, better skill. And he's a scrap.
But the inevitability in my opinion of one of those unorthodox right hands landing is high. Cotto wins by default however, same as against Tony I guess. Considering the general consensus is the guy with the skill wins.
I just can't see Miguelito surviving, and I'm being honest.
Kermit Cintron is one of the top guys with Cotto IMO.
Aight dats cool...2 tell u da truth...yea Cotto is much more skilled than Cintron & Margarito..possibly even if u put them 2gether. Cotto cant manhandle a stronger opponent tho. Pressure has always been his weakpoint & thats why in every fight he was the agressor. With Tony there was no way he could do it. Da outcome of their fight speaks for itself.
I'm so fucking sick of people ripping on that kid.
He's a knockout artist machine who has maybe the nastiest right hand I've seen in the WW division since who? Hearns?
The guy is a bear who showed serious grit in his last loss to Tony.
1 of those nasty overhand rights would KTFO Cotto with ease.
You gotta remember...aint nobody tryin 2 get hit with his right hand...besides the fact that he's one-dimensional, take into consideration that he has poor stamina to accompany his wild foolish style. He hits hard but cant take his own medicine. Cotto would defenitely own him.
I couldnt believe the amount of biasedness (if thats even a word) that Lamlpey had for Cotto that night. I dont think I can respect him as much anymore.
Yea wtf was up wit dat. I think Lamps had money on da fight. Must be feelin like an ass now.
K right he got knocked out.
Cotto also knocked out a German named "Otkay Urkal".
So then wats ur point man!!! Yo go to your room...its past your bedtime..u jus talkin out of ur ass now
Haha fuck Calzaghe. Jones is gonna tax that ass.
Hopkins still managed 2 hold Calzaghe to split decision. Joes is just an average person who throws just enough punches to get out of range for his opponents. I mean come on... u can't seriously just sit around & think that he's one of the greatest champions pound for pound in the sports history when looking at his weak resume that, yes, does include Hopkins...only thing is that Hopkins doesn't have much to recurr to than his smarts for fights now adays. Obviously the power he once had has faded as well as his lateral movement...aside from him who else is a legit fighter Calzaghe has proved himself against. Waaay 2 overrated. Jones is gonna make sure his ass kissers kno. Yup Jones is past his prime also, but he is past Calzaghe's "abilities". As a matter of fact the fight was postponed. Oh Joe....things happen 4 a reason dont they? LOL
Either way. There's no way around it.
I have eyes, you have eyes, they have eyes. You know boxing, I know boxing, they know boxing. His right hand is psychotic.
all the angles that thing comes from? Cotto can deal with that?
Some are like fucking Hookercuts and shit.
LOL.. I wanna kno who da fuck bet against Roy for his Calzaghe fight? Some ppl are just brave...errm stupid lol
I give Margarito props for beating Cotto. He did his thing and won yes. But I'm tired of seeing all this "Margarito is the Worlds Most Feared fighter" shit. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. You talk shit about Floyd ducking and being scared to fight Margarito but lets not forget the dude started at 130lbs and went up 5 weight divisions. It's obvious to everyone he's a small welterweight. And it's obvious to everyone that Margarito is a HUGE welterweight. Margarito has made his living out of beating smaller fighters and that's a fact. He fought in the 154lb division which is a division he really should be fighting in and he ran back down when he seen how tough it would be and what a big difference it is to move up a division. And anytime he fights someone his own size he lost or had problems with them. If he's the so called "Worlds Most Feared Fighter" then why doesn't he move up in weight? Let him move up 5 weight divisions and see how great he does.. Better yet let him move up to 154 and see how he does. I like Margarito but his fans are just total hypocrites and are really starting to turn me off towards being a fan of his.
I agree 100%...lets take a look at Joshua Clottey this weekend
Ok, so I'm here eating my dinner while watching the Cotto-Marg fight, and as I'm eating and looking back and forth, not too focused though on the fight, more on my food :D Alls I hear every second out of Lampley's mouth is, Cotto...Cotto...Cotto. I mean it got digusting hearing it nonstop. It nearly ruined my appetite! The amount of nut hugging he did was astonishing and the only time he mentioned Margarito was either that he took a shot or he just keeps throwing. Never mentioning actual blows by Margarito, and any damage he was inflicting on Cotto. Now obviously I'm a huge Cotto fan, but far from biased and this kind of shit pisses me off. It's not the first time he's done it either and for the most part his blow by blows are waaay off where he sees punches landed that are completely air. I never have a problem with Merchant or Kellerman even with all you whiners bickering about something smart they said. If anything I find myself always complaining about shit Lampley says and this fight he was a disgrace. :grumble:
Did u notice him crying at da end?
What you typed there proves my case.
An obscure Columbian who's never fought anyone.
hehe and you say I'm trying to further my case.
So because he hasnt lost since Cotto he hasnt fought anyone? LOL Now u about to make me cry
Are you kidding me? Mayorga took Clean shots from Tito and didnt go down, of course 3 left hooks from the bigger man is going to wobble him but he was never hurt. Tito broke Mayorga down by going to the body, so i dont know what fight you watched. Tito was much bigger than Mayorga but still couldnt hurt him with one punch. As for Tito-Tony, I dont think either would knock eachother out, Tito would probably be knocked down early but come back to win a close fight if they were both in their primes would be my bet.
Knowin dat Margarito barely has a defense...if he has one its his offense...Trinidad's punches would get in da same way they got thru on Mayorga only without Tony stickin his face out & inviting him.
Thank you.
Does Cotto really drop off your list bcause of one loss? And wtf in Wright doing that high?
Hatton & Wright shouldnt even be on there. Hatton cuz in my eyes has got 3 losses instead of 1. Da man is declinin, jus look at his last fight...he is not the same(if he ever really was sumthin)...Wright? WTF has he done in the past year? Participated in photo shoots for a video game, that's what. And about Cotto... u thought his past performances were enough to get him into your list but yet one loss which was not one-sided until the very end shakes him off of there? Please homie...inform yourself ALOT more about the sport before u pick your personal faves to put on a list & then let every1 kno about it.
^^^^^^
This is the only correct response to this thread if you don't agree with Me.
Why... because he actually analyzes the outcome 4rm both point of views...yea I agree dat what he said is true for Cotto, but face it, its true for anybody...Cintorn's right hand correctly placed on a fighters jaw will knock the guy senseless.
It's all over the spanish radio here in Miami and in Orlando where my nephew lives. He says that all he keeps hearing is Puerto Ricans saying Margarito was definitely on steroids because he was much stronger than usual.
I'm hearing the same thing here in Miami all over the radio when they mention the fight and take calls.
By the way, 100% of the Cubans calling in are telling the Puerto Ricans to stop crying, it's classic.
This is really sad because people are dead serious in their accusations....sad.
Im puerto rican & it really makes me laugh hearing the bullshit accusations. Margarito won fair & square...GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!!
I was never high on him! I watched him fight for the first time here in fresno i think over 5 years ago! Never really been too impressed with him and always felt he was very beatable. I do feel for his kids and baby mom that were breaking down after the fight! Looking at cotto's bloody face and i will post the gif im talking about only to show you what im talking about. He just had a look of beaten! he had enough when he took a knee the second time you can see he was looking at his corner instantly hinting at them to stop it! I don't blame him he took a beaten but he showed alot of heart and courage saturday night! he brawled alot with margarito and gave it all he had and gave all us fans a fight i'll remember for ever!
looking at this gif makes me want to call truce with the people hating on margarito pre-fight. This gif shows the life beaten out of cotto and you can see quit all over cotto's face.
Thanks cotto for willing to fight anyone! For accepting a tony fight twice! and for going in there and giving us fans a fight for the ages!
He's a great young fighter..I also credit him.
Take a look. What are your thoughts?
Number 1:
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Number 2:
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Miguel did not quit. Tony won fair and square, But Cotto didn't quit. Sorry to make another thread about this though..
I agrre with u 100%..its da plain truth..anyone else unwilling to see it is just an uneducated boxing fan...not a boxing analyst.
After an impressive fight between Cotto and Margarito how would you rate a Paul Williams fight for Cotto?
Can Cotto pull this win or will it be another Margarito vs Cotto re-peat due to Williams size advantage?
I believe Cotto can win this fight, but I am looking for opinions.
Discuss:boxing:
Size will be a factor, but what you really have 2 look for is each fighters stamina. Williams faded late against Margarito as did Cotto. I beleive Williams is more agressive & it sets up the blueprint of how to newly defeat Miguel Cotto. On the otherhand Williams' style i beleive is more awkward than Margarito's and he is more susceptible to body punches. I f Cotto can make the changes he needs 2 in his weaknesses 2 make them an advantage 4 him he could win. Nevertheless if it is going to be a hard, rough fight for any of the 2, its gotta be for Cotto.
DID HE SAY "I QUIT" TO THE REF????
If so, I must've missed it.
Did he take a knee??? Yes but that isn't quitting. He could of done it to take a breather or because he was sensing that the ref was about to stop it. It wasn't quitting.
From what I saw, he got back up on his feet and it was his corner who threw in the towel. Did he have a look of resignation on his face? Yes but that isn't quitting.
So Stop the Nonsense.
Excellent point. A loss is a loss & its done.. but u speak the truth.
I defenitely agree as Mayweather is accostumed to being a track runner for 12 rounds in the ring. He has the capability of being more effective than Margarito as speed, technique & overall ring generalship will go to his favor... not to mention defense. Tony's ability to break down fighters comes from the accumulation of punches he exerts. Floyd will never give him the luxury of landing 200+ punches on him... its a no brainer, Mayweather on points.
Wladimir v Povetkin will eclipse Cotto v Margarito ,Wladimir is gonna beat our eastern european brother down but it will be a better fight than Cotto v Margarito those guys have no stamina thats why the fight looked so impressive
O fuckin please, da best thing wlad is known for is makin fights seem like lullabies. Post your comments when u not smokin boy.
In any case Judah-Clottey seems to look like a decent fight on paper. Will most likely last the distance if Judah's expected early aggresiveness does not hurt Clottey enough to put him out. If it goes the distance lets see if Judah has really done somethin to overcome his late fight slumps.
I haven't heard anything.
Seems like everyone forgot.
Fucked up shit.
Hope hes recovered well.
According to what i had heard he will make a full recovery, though he is in a coma recovering from brain surgey. Doctors say the coma is common with these surgeries. He is breathing on his own though which is good.
Da best heavyweight champ we never had..... you must mean in recent times. Heavyweight fights look more than anything like family reunions nowadays...mostly all hugs. I keep myself informed about them... but to watch an actual fight...pleaseeee!!!!