Cotto did not quit!!!!!!!!!

he give him corner the nod "its over ge thim of me" thats when his corner steped in.

He didn't quit..... He was hurt and battered but he didn't quit... In the rematch he fights differently and wins the UD... I'm convinced after the first 6 rounds.

Its mostly just Margarito fans or cotto haters that say he quit.

If Cotto wanted to keep fighting (i.e. NOT quit) he wouldn't have nodded at his corner when they waved the towel at him. Find the HBO PPV, they show a ringside angle where you get a close-up of Cotto's face and you can clearly see him give his corner the nod. QUOTE] Just out of curiousity, how do you know his corner isn't yelling to him and asking if he wants to keep fighting? The man lost, but its still funny how people see what they want to see. The only thing I saw was two warriors put it all on the line for 11 rounds in one of the best fights of the year.

All the people arguing whether he quit or not, who the fuck cares! the guy was obviously spent, he was beaten to a pulp and it was obvious by his facial expression that he couldn't continue to receive any more punishment. If his corner wouldn't of thrown in the towel that guy could of seriously gotten hurt or possibly killed in that ring. So whether he quit or not, it doesn't matter, the man lost the battle. The only reason it is being argued is because it undermines a great fight and a proud fighter who put his life on the line, lost and made no excuses.

Whether or not Cotto quit is a debate that will rage on for as long as this fight is remembered and discussed. But can it least be agreed upon that he had the fight beaten out of him at that point? I just find it interesting that people can't give Cotto full respect in a loss, especially after giving the fans a fight that exciting and brutal. Why not give a man who just fought his ass off for 10.5 rounds the benefit of the doubt? A man who has never given up before, a guy known for having a ton of resolve...? Just something that bothers me. He got beat down, lost and made no excuses. If he wanted to quit he would have done it at the end of the 10th or he would have stayed on a knee after getting pummeled and dropped for the first time.

I am a Cotto fan and really wanted him to win. I havent seen too much of Antonio except for his last Cintron fight and as much as I am gutted to see Cotto lose I have nothing but respect for both men. Cotto clearly showed his ability to outbox the mexican in the early rounds who appeared to be very frustrated. Then Marg started to wear Cotto down, as much as Im a fan Cotto frustrated me by always letting himself get backed onto the ropes and allowed himself to take punishment. I knew from teh Cintron fight that Marg could do damage and the latter part of the fight it appeared that Cotto almost let that happen. Marg is a true warrior and a tough as hell fighter. Cotto is still young and I still think its possible for him to beat Marg in a rematch but the mexican was clearly better in the latter half of the fight and showed how tough he is despite being outboxed in the first half. Cotto ran out of steam and allowed Marg to do his thing. Thats what I saw on Saturday night. Well done Marg I say - Cotto equally well done and he will bounce back from this...he is young and will learn from it. Oh and hello everyone on the forums - this is my first post!!

Whether or not Cotto quit is a debate that will rage on for as long as this fight is remembered and discussed. But can it least be agreed upon that he had the fight beaten out of him at that point?

Ya watching it again no he didnt slip. I wasnt saying he lost his balance I was saying he had no energy to keep it. I'm taking nothing away from Margaritos win, it was an amazing preformance, I just didnt see Cotto quit, the fight was already over and he knew it, but that not to say he wouldnt have fought on if the corner didnt jump in.

Actually once the corner steps on the apron they were throwing in the towel, if not it would have been a DQ. Cotto looked over to them, saw them doing it and had a look like yeah, the fights over. When he did that, the fight was already over. He was looking at the ref while he was counting ready to go back and then looks over to them. And also, the last knee he took, his right foot slipped and he had nothing left to keep his balance. He lost his balance?!?!?! Wow, that is stretching it, he went down under the preassure, he didn't want it anymore. I respect Cotto, I do. He is a great fighter but he gave in, quit, didn't want to continue...however you want to word it. The last knee he TOOK (not slip or lose his balance) he didn't even get hit by a punch. He was a broken man.

Yes, he couldn't defend yourself. He had no legs left. He didn't quit, he was beaten. Why does everyone else realize this except you? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199118

That would simply be your interpretation. Duran turning his back on Leonard or Freitas waving off his fight against Corrales is a clear case of quitting. Try respecting these warriors enough to give them the benefit of the doubt. Miguel Cotto left everything he had in the ring Saturday night. Obviously I'm not arguing YOUR interpretation; that's your job. We are not going to see eye to eye on this. I'm learning that some of you are so blindly driven by macho pride that you are interpreting it as an insult when I say that Cotto quit. I've already stated I have tons of respect for the guy and what he managed to do for most of 11 rounds Saturday night. I wanted him to win. He gave it everything he had, but it wasn't enough, and he knew it. As the 11th round wore on, his body language showed me he knew he couldn't handle any more. He did the smart thing by taking knees instead of taking the inevitable knockout. There is no shame in that. We clearly have differing opinions on what happened and different approaches to what it means to quit. I can respect your view but I don't agree with it.

He was beaten to the point of submission. The only thing left for him in that ring was a knockout - him getting knocked out, that is. He knew that, hence the knees and lack of protest when his corner waved the towel at him. His will was gone. He may not have verbally said, "I quit," but that doesn't mean he hadn't given up. I'm beginning to think that some of you didn't even watch the fight. Everything about him said "I quit." That would simply be your interpretation. Duran turning his back on Leonard or Freitas waving off his fight against Corrales is a clear case of quitting. Try respecting these warriors enough to give them the benefit of the doubt. Miguel Cotto left everything he had in the ring Saturday night.

Yes, he couldn't defend yourself. He had no legs left. He didn't quit, he was beaten. Why does everyone else realize this except you? He was beaten to the point of submission. The only thing left for him in that ring was a knockout - him getting knocked out, that is. He knew that, hence the knees and lack of protest when his corner waved the towel at him. His will was gone. He may not have verbally said, "I quit," but that doesn't mean he hadn't given up. I'm beginning to think that some of you didn't even watch the fight. Everything about him said "I quit."

Watch the video again; his foot doesn't move at all. There is NO slipping. He backs halfway across the ring, straight into a corner without being hit, Margarito looms over him and he squats down, covering his head. Yes, he couldn't defend yourself. He had no legs left. He didn't quit, he was beaten. Why does everyone else realize this except you?

And also, the last knee he took, his right foot slipped and he had nothing left to keep his balance. Watch the video again; his foot doesn't move at all. There is NO slipping. He backs halfway across the ring, straight into a corner without being hit, Margarito looms over him and he squats down, covering his head.

By the corner on the apron, already waving the towel the fight is already over, Cotto nodded, he did not want to fight but that not to say he wouldnt have if the corner didnt jump in.

DID HE SAY "I QUIT" TO THE REF???? If so, I must've missed it. Did he take a knee??? Yes but that isn't quitting. He could of done it to take a breather or because he was sensing that the ref was about to stop it. It wasn't quitting. From what I saw, he got back up on his feet and it was his corner who threw in the towel. Did he have a look of resignation on his face? Yes but that isn't quitting. So Stop the Nonsense. Excellent point. A loss is a loss & its done.. but u speak the truth.

What is everyone getting so worked up about? I haven't seen anyone in this discussion openly criticize Cotto; I was pulling for him to win the fight and still have the utmost respect for him as a fighter and a man. Cotto did not quit! Taking a knee was smart, and also to prevent it from being stopped. Then he would get up and take another knee and get up again, then when he looks to the corner, you see Evanalista Cotto by the ropes with the towel already, and basically Cotto said "Fuck it, they're there already, might as well stop it" What's Cotto gonna do? Force his uncle not to stop the fight? He was already half way in the ring. Ya people on this site are some dicks you know that? Its like its a 7th grade forum. I believe he quit; the second knee he took, he had not been hit. He just dropped to Margarito's feet. Then he stood up, looked at his corner, and gave a slight nod before they signaled to the ref to stop the fight. I can't believe you'd argue that Cotto said, "Fuck it, they're there already, might as well stop it," and not equate that to submission on his part. He clearly wanted to get the fuck out of there, had zero interest in continuing the fight, and did not protest when his corner presented him with the opportunity. In my view, that's not fighting, that's quitting. DID NOT HAPPEN. Move on time, you guys are killing me. Trying to redefine what QUITTING is.......pathetic. I gave you examples of real quitting, saw none of it from Cotto. END OF STORY I don't know whether to laugh at you or pity you for taking this so personally.

Actually he did, I just saw the entire fight over again and if you look at the last moments of the fight, Cotto clinches Marg on one side of the ring, the ref breaks them apart and then Marg without even throwing one punch, Cotto takes a knee. Then he looks at his corner who is waiving the towel TO Cotto as if to say, "Should I throw it in" and Cotto nods his head slightly as if to say "I have had enough." Look at it closely and you will see, the corner never physically threw the towel in they just waived it at Cotto to see if it was ok to throw it in and Cotto nodded in approval. Actually once the corner steps on the apron they were throwing in the towel, if not it would have been a DQ. Cotto looked over to them, saw them doing it and had a look like yeah, the fights over. When he did that, the fight was already over. He was looking at the ref while he was counting ready to go back and then looks over to them. And also, the last knee he took, his right foot slipped and he had nothing left to keep his balance.