This is a little off topic from the Pac vs. Mayweather posts, but just curious if anybody knows any story behind this...
In the Rocky series, it's obvious that Apollo Creed is based on Muhammad Ali, and Ivan Drago is just a sterotype of what soviet fighters were at the time. But who or what was the Clubber Lang character based on? The obvious choice would be Tyson, but the movie came out in 1983, and Tyson didn't turn pro until 1984. Was there a fighter Stallone based Lang on, or did he just make him up?
Just curious, this just popped into my head.
It was just a charater they made up. They wanted a slugger for Rocky to fight.
dude, wtf are YOU talking about? numbing confidence? what are you, a psychologist
It think that the poster is right. Everyone thought they could be Tyson until they got into the ring with him bc they seen how big and strong he was and could be. When you finally get into the ring with a guy that all of a sudden apears bigger than you it kinda does hurt your confidence.
Team Pacquiao no doubt about it. If you have nothing to hide, why not agree to the tests. Mayweather is well within his rights to ask for something like this since the Pacquiao fight is likely to be one of the closest he gets to losing that zero. Why run the risk of tarnishing his legacy by potentially losing to a potentially juiced up fighter wen you can try and make sure that's not the case.
All Maywather does is talk about how great he is and how he will beat anyone any time yet he is backing down from this fight. Why all of a sudden does he want this random testing. Why didnt he want it when JMM moved up from what 130??? Why didnt he want it against DLH? Hatton?? They were all potential losses. I really think he or his daddy are scard of Pac. Its ashame that BS school girl rumors are going to ruin this fight. No wonder why some people are turning away from boxing.
How did Ali, who had previously been knocked down and almost out by the smaller Henry Cooper, manage to take those punches from Big George?
There are PEDs that would have helped him to take Foreman's shots.
He wasnt landing every power punch he threw. Did you watch the fight or did you watch the Ali movie where they made look like a worse beaten than it was? Ali was slipping alot of those punches. He was also blocking alot of those punches and countering. Foreman wasnt use to being hit like that much. He was spend from prolly round 4 on. You can see he was gased from throwing so many punches. Maybe Henry Cooper took something extra if he was so much smaller than Foreman ever think of that?
Letting the other guy use you as a punching bag for 8 rounds is brilliant?
It worked didnt it? Plus Ali was getting off som great punches and combo's. Its not like Foreman was totally beating the crap out of Ali. Ali had his gameplan and Foreman was game for it walked right into Ali's trap. To stand there and stick to your gameplan for all that time getting hit by a bigger stronger man and you were supposed to get KOed yourself. Yea I call that brilliant.
First no Cotto didnt have to take the fight. Manny and Roach didnt go in a twist his arm to sign the fight. He could have pursued more fights. Dont give me this can he really turn down that money. Yea he can if you dont feel comfortable fighting at a weight you dont sign the contract simple as that. Alot of people have done it. PBF signed the catchweight fight than paid the fine for coming in over the weight. Cotto lost the fight. You all picked Cotto to KTFO Manny before the fight. No one talked weight than.
If Cotto would have done what Manny did to him or KOed or TKOed him you wouldnt be talking about the weight. Cotto wouldnt of been weight drained he be talked about being the best P4P bc he beat the #1 P4P guy in the sport.
No one made Cotto sign the contract. Cotto made no excuses after the fight either. He said that Manny whooped him which he did fair and square. There is no shame in coming out and saying yes the weight loss affected me. But 1 pound didnt do it Im sorry. To make an excuse like that for your fight is just wrong. Cotto could have purused Floyd more since Floyd was talking about fighting the best. It would have been more money for him and it would have been at his weight.
You cant sit here and diss Manny and Roach for it. Hell maybe if Cotto turned it down we would see Manny Floyd sooner.
when i read the title i though u was talking bout ur girl nagging while the fight was on. lol
all in know is that if a chick is commentating she mine aswell be strippig for me
A rematch, how many years later? After a couple of wars for Brewster, both with Sergei and having his rhetina damn near destroyed.
LMAO.
He was poisoned. LMAO. You kiss your mom with that lying mouth?
ah come on you know the klits cant ever be beaten unless something happend. didnt you hear? corrie saunders used plaster in his gloves when they fought.
did you notice this dude makes a thread than runs away bc he has no clue what he's talking about. all he says when he actually does reply is yanks suck and cry about taylor. last time i checked no one gave a crap about him. there isnt a thread a minute about taylor if anything its floyd hate or not its him. no one really makes a taylor thread unless he just got done fighting.
Everybody Get on your feet
Right now for Carl Cobra Froch.
The best Nottingham fighter..been looking for a crown
Whoever don't agree you know what, I guess
Ya'll Must've Forgot
When Inkin let me down for the third time I had to wait till a belt was mine
Hit Taylor with some stiff jabs and 2 cobra upercuts at one time
Ya'll Must've Forgot
When I foght Pascal and won the title i new those yanks would get on their bycycles
Ya'll Must've Forgot
You remember the left hand down against taylor?
I wanted it low so i could push his head on my cock
Ya'll Must've Forgot
Will there ever be another yank to step up to me?, probly not
Stopped Taylor hard, frokm now on he's shot
Ya'll Must've Forgot
I came to the US to fight their best
After giving a whooping to Jermaine
the yanks were crying....look behind their eyes for the pain
5 months later, Pavlik needs my crown
1st round, 1 punch and Kelly sat down
Don't get me mad cause I'm better than any SMW in USA
Jermaine was ok but all other yanks are gay
The heart and soul i showed on HBO
Now all you hating yanks know
Ya'll Must've Forgot
And they got the nerve to say 'who is he"
Then i Ko their best and make'em look like nobody
Ya'll Must've Forgot
(Remember that)
In the ring I BOX, but should keep my left higher
When I use the cobra ....i new taylor would tire
the state of the usa fighters stamina is dire
And I wont stop Boxing till all you SMW yanks I retire
I'm Carl
Ya'll Must've Forgot (x2)
wow yea you have no life no no life. the funny thing is you hate us yanks yet a the song that you soo horribly tried to redo was made by a yank. wow dude you lol really need a life. if your going to redo a song make sure all the words flow like it does in the actual song lol.
the people in this thread are assholes, suddenly all dont like or hate jermaine taylor, sad, sad indeed
Ive actually never been a fan of taylor. I always thought he was a tad overrated. he is a good fighter yes but to say he is the best american fighter even at smw is just crazy. thats my beef with this thread that he is nowhere near our best.
Why are you avoiding my question?
What happened to Ricky Hatton when he came to America?
I know what happend he became apart of the ring post lol. and he was a UK best taylor is nowhere near it.
don't worry guys....soon the Pinoys and the Russians will share your pain .......you get rid of calzaghe (getting bored of him destroying your boys) then Froch comes along and smashes your best smw.......lol
are you kidding me? dude really get a life really. taylor is not our best. i dont like taylor the only reason i was cheering for him is bc of a**holes like you who always have to bring this shit up. god man for real get a life. get your painball gun put your finger back in your ass and just start being a big boy. god its people like you who sometimes make this forum bad.
I know...Glory hunters.....UK fans are the best in the world
ok dude yea your right taylor is our best. just like hatton was your best and became part of the ring post. get your facts straigh you a** get a life and just follow the sport why do you have to do this immature shit. Umm your the best fans we dont start talking like we wish your country should be bombed. Hell i made a thread once and all the fans like you wanted us off the face of the earth you all can dish it but cant take it. This is not all UK fans either. just ones like this f*cking paintball gamer over here in his fake ass military wear.
turn it in ...... you ain't making sense bruv...the ref was corrupt
give me a break take a loss like a man take a beat down like a man. hatton was your best and he got iced. taylor is nowhere near our best and your on here like he was. go play paintball
dammit kendo!
it's a pellet rifle not a paintball gun.
i'd actually have a little more respect for him if it was a paintball gun.
dressing up in camouflage to go paintball shooting with your friends is quite normal.
dressing up in camouflage to look bad ass in a pic while holding up a pellet rifle is kinda sad tbh. :D
haha true true lol
He got robbed by a crooked ref........Floyd should fight him at 140 and come to england.......he will get ****ed up
HAHAHAHA what does a ref have to do with hatton hitting the ring post your f*cking moron. learn the fight game you dumdass. shit thats like me saying if the ref werent crooked in the tarver jones II fight roy would have won. get over yourself you just made yourself look like a complete moron.
they're always like that.
watch what happens if hatton can beat pacquiao.
they talk so much shit about how pac is small and ricky is gonna destroy him and how oscar-pac win didn't mean much.
if hatton wins next week...... pacquiao was #1 , pacquiao wasn't too small , he beat oscar at 147......watch them big up pacquiao so much just to make hatton look good.
this is very true i remember seeing some hatton was overrated post on here to after floyd iced his a**.
on a straight pound for pound basis... Roy by a CITY mile
I agree both fighters did win alot of titles at diff weights. I have to give Roy bc of his move to HW. In the ring an awsome fight. Roy could catch hearns on the chin with a leaping right or a check left hook. Going the distance would be even better but i give it to roy very narrowly.
Check Hooks....man you didn't even know what that was till the Hatton fight. You watched that fight too many times.
first off yes i did and if you dont know what that is you dont know boxing. Im not putting your boy down its just a simple question. Would it be a good idea if cotto comes striaght ahead and floyd moves alot. I also never said i didnt want to see the fight. I know it would prolly become a huge fight im just seeing what people think. You have alot of people saying cotto would KO him and other people saying that floyd would put a boxing clinic on him. Ive only watched the hatton fight once by the way my man. Thats all you needed. like i said im not trying to bash floyd or cotto in this thread just simply saying what actually could happen. Rick Rude is right lol. jk man. No but you are right cotto does have an effective jab and we kinda saw floyd struggle in the first half of the DLH fight when he was using the jab.
Tracking Floyd down wont be a problem. If Cotto's not the best at cutting the ring off int he sport then he's 2nd or 3rd. Finding ways to land leather on Floyd wihtout being countered silly will be the issue. I think his jab is an important and valuable weapon in the fight. Because you have to be able to fight Floyd from a distance as well as up close. It's no good doing all the hard work inside when you're getting tagged on the way in.
thank you thank you see thats what im looking for. alot of people have great posts on here just the one that thinks im hating on cotto. nice you answered the question lol.
cotto fights nothing like baldo or ricky who only come forward, did you forget the shane and margarito fight? everyone will fall into mayweathers gameplan because mayweather actually has a gameplan for every fight and every gameplan seems to be different unlike someone like paquiao who fights the same fight all the time
Thats what Im saying. cotto may may come forward into maywheathers gameplan. Im not saying he is a stright forward fighter im saying he falls into that plan bc like you said everyone falls into maywheathers gameplan sooner or later. and god no does cotto fight like baldo or ricky. I said that in the start of the thread that i wasnt trying to compair cotto and baldo at all.
I agree with the thread starter on this one. If you say the wrong thing about someones fighter on here you are a hater. Thats what this site is about putting your thoughts on the board and having people respond. Just bc someone discredits floyd calzaghe or anyone in the boxing world than there not a hater they are simply doing what this site was made for. I agree there are some haters out there but in this forum it seems like everyone has been called a hater.
good post man. exaclty right. without debate....this place does not exist.
yea thats what this website is all about. thats what blogs are all about lol. about stateing your thoughts and people agreeing or disagreeing and like you said people are allowed to disagree with the right facts not when your out of facts to prove your point to call someone a hater.
Cotto is a very touchy subject being that he is Floyds #1 threat.
So the Cotto lovers are very sensitive when he is referenced.
Even when a question is out of genuine curiousity.
You should've put "DISCLAIMER: This Is Not A Hate/Bait Thread" at the top.
Same with Floyd.
Come on now I been here like a month and I know this.
You been here since 2006 and don't know? :P
haha true true very true lol. i actually do actually put this isnt a hate thread on floyd or whoever is in it. i was just to into getting it out there and interested to hear what people had to say about.
I'm pretty sure that floyd can beat cotto but c'mon man, just give cotto a little credit.
Im not trying to discredit cotto at all. Im just simply saying would maywheaters speed after a while be to much for cotto. and could he bait cotto into coming straight at him like we have seen floyd do to many of fighters. I would actually give cotto a good chance on beating floyd. do i think it would happen? i would have to say no. But the best thing about it is that it can happen and just might happen. I hope this fight gets signed bc it would be really great for the sport to put all these top fighters in the ring together. I just think floyd would win UD bc of his speed. Not dissing cotto or anything like that but just simply thinking that floyd's speed always comes into play somehow.
I always find these threads to be hilarious. That's why I call him Floyd "Walk On Water" Mayweather. Apparently he is wizard who can evaporate his midsection and can teleport around the ring to avoid being hit.
this thread has nothing to do with mayweather being a wizard or anything like that. It is a thread started with a question. not saying floyd is the greatest and not dising cotto. its a question posted to see what people think. thats why there is a question mark not a period. its not a statment. i said it is a very big possibilty that cotto catches floyd and drops him. im also saying thee is a very big possibility that may cruises to an easy win with his speed and bateing cotto in.
Your not hating. Its just that your ideology of how the fight would fair, is incorrect. Your dismissing to many factors, that would make up a Cotto/Money fight.
What makes Cotto such a big threat to Money, is the fact that he is a tactical puncher/boxer. He switches styles, to break your rhythm. If a defensive fighter, can not establish its rhythm or figure out its foe’s rhythm. It spells trouble.
Cotto throws delayed punches. Meaning one is coming slow, with the following going in full blast. It serves to confuse the opponent, and land its heavy hand.
Probably the biggest problem, and Cotto’s main attribute is the fact that he is ambidextrous. Meaning he can he can naturally switch from orthodox to southpaw.
Let alone the other attributes that follow. He is a heavy Welter Weight, with good hand speed, and good foot work.
Money will never fight Cotto.
Im not saying thats how the fight will go im askin if that could be the case. Floyd has done that to fighters and cotto has done that to fighters. Im just asking would it be a boxing clinic by floyd? im not actually saying what floyd is going to do im just simply asking about it.
Also it wouldnt be out of the question at all that cotto could possibly catch floyd with a hook and put floyd flat on his back. But like someone said floyd would do enough moving to not make that happen. I think you would have to bet on if your cotto to just tire floyd out with body shots when you can and trap him and get very rough with floyd. But floyds speed makes it very hard for cotto to catch him with that punch. It prolly would be a really good fight though