The margarito fight .
Both fights vs marquez at 147 he looked
Like he lost a step. Then when he got iced by marquez that was it, the dog in him went away,
He was never the same mentally . He lost a piece of himself physically vs margarito before that .
so compubox was wrong in the Pacquiao-Horn fight to then right?
You condone dck punching as body shots .
Just admit you are pro black and its an ego/pride thing .
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Most boxing fans saw two low blows to end the fight.
Like I said ward was having a good round
And then used tactics by thowing low blows , he was willing to get warned after the damage would be done.
Hitting the letter B was low .
Ward even admitted he targeted kovalev down low .
Tony weeks admitted the punches were low and the stoppage was a mistake.
But the NSAC (rug sweepers) keep making money.
Lol, actually I did peep that. That last punch Ward did indeed hit Kovalev right on the letter B from the Hublot advertisement on his trunks.
Even though I did think Ward was on his way to winning whether in that round or a round or two later. That stoppage was premature and bogus imo.
Ward was robbed of the clear, emphatic victory he deserved. Everyone today should be talking about how epic the victory was, but that kind of ending gives people something to complain, protest, disagree about.
I just think if it was kovalev hitting ward on that letter B and it ended like that , there would be outrage . We would hear why wasnt ward given his 5 minutes. .
Let me punch you in the dck as hard as I can twice in a row and lets eee how you react.
We can record it . Post it on the internet and have people debate whether it was a low blow or a fair punch.
Fact is andre ward is a dirty fighter who
Headbutts and low blows and excessively clinches.
If it was the other way around you and the blackstreet boys crew would complain.
Tony weeks stopped that fight early and
It was off a low blow . He admitted that already
Most people see kovalev up 1 contest and a no contest with a need for a third fight not in las vegas. This fight series shoulc have been in new york from the jump.
Ward hit kovalev on the letter B of his trunks
Thats low.
Headbutts are headbutts , low is low.
Weeks never said the letter B is clean .
Lets get real here. The letter B is low.
Ward was doing good work in rd 8
And then boom , it was as if he was punching himself out and went low twice right in front of the ref.
I think weeks didnt want the controversy that would come with letting kovalev failry get his 5 minutes.
The stoppage was trash.
Kovalev was clearly fouled like bowe was by golota. Ward hit kovalev on the letter B and we all know the letter B is low.
You got morons on here saying the letter B is the belt line.
Over 85 percent of people watching the first fight thought kovalev clearly won and he was robbed of that victory.
Now over 75 percent of fans watching the rematch think ward intentionally low blowed kovalev twice in a row on the letter B of kovalevs trunks at the cup area, and tony weeks stopped the fight instead of giving kovalev his 5 minutes for the low blows and warn ward for fouling.
Andre ward didnt beat kovalev fair and square
Anf its obvious the NSAC can not be trusted for more reasons than 1.
The NSAC sweeps things under the rug, they sanction fights that have no business being made and they cover up failed drug tests.
Imo ward vs kovalev 3 should be made immediately should be in NY or atlantic city like fight 1 should have been.
Lmao.
Floyd fans justifying that garbage to glorify the opponent.
Connor was trash bruh.
Floyd was in full control , he spars far better than what connor had to offer .
He didnt get outboxed for 3 rounds because he suddenly is not good... he got outboxed for 3 rounds because Conor is actually a good boxer
Sure buddy .
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I learned that the gap between boxers and MMA fighters isn't as large as I thought.
And that MMA fighters don't know in boxing you're allowed to take a knee, rest, get back up...
Its called carrying a guy you moron
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Its all about making that money .
Andre made money , stephen a smith made money , floyd made money.
Floyd clearly did what he most always does. Gives away the first few rounds. Allows you fo gas out some , feels you out and starts picking apart the mistakes you created for yourself.
The real fight with floyd has always been the mid rounds . He drowns you the late rounds .
Not only is the opponent fighting floyd but he is fighting fatigue. Floyd looked slower and older , but like b hop vs pascal , the wild opponent is outsmarted and outmatched . They over use their own stamina and drown themselves in deep waters before they know what hit them.
They soften themselves up
Floyd always does what best for him , not boxing
I learned that the gap between boxers and MMA fighters isn't as large as I thought.
And that MMA fighters don't know in boxing you're allowed to take a knee, rest, get back up...
The return of the Golovkin "got hit on purpose" theory, adapted to explain why Floyd dropped 3 rounds behind? OK fellas.
What you saw is what happened. No psychic powers required. It was a competitive fight til cardio happened.
Sure buddy . Keep telling yourself that so you feel like you know lots about boxing .
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Floyd carried connor.
I think paulie outboxes connor .
Connor was trash and needed floyd to take it easy.connor had no power and his stamina was shht after 3 rounds.
Dispelling the myth that Mayweather fought his opponents at the wrong time. The short sightedness of fans is off the charts. One fan says it and All the boxing analyst run with it.
Genaro hernandez. Only lost to delahoya in the mid 90s before Floyd was factor
Angel Manfreddy. Was a feared boxer at the time and hadn't lost in years before Floyd. Lasted two or 3 rounds
Diego corralles. Undefeated and Floyd was considered the underdog.
Castillo went on to beat corralles and Joel Casamayor afterwards.
Chop chop. This was his first fight at jr welter and he went toe to toe with him Chop chop had two losses at the time and one was to Judah. This is notable since in this fight Larry Merchant and the HBO cast said Gatti and sharmba Mitchell would beat Floyd and Floyd would not fight him. 2004(watch it on YouTube to hear, it was a good fight anyway)
Gatti 2005. Only took one fight before this. But By the time this fight started regardless of what was said and forgotten two fights earlier- Floyds now the favorite. Gatti was still on his win streak since Mickey Ward2003. What changed ?
Sharmba. 2005 Coming of lost to Tzu but still everybody said Floyd Couldn't beat him 3 fights earlier and e had already lost to Tzu back in 2003
Judah was coming off loss to Carlos baldomir. This was floyds first fight at welter. Hardly cherry picking when moving up in weight
Baldomir. Had just beaten Judah and Gatti. Had no recent losses. Only the losses he already had prior to beating Judah
Delahoya. Was partially inactive before Mayweather other than a tuneup. Had been fighting at super welter and middle in his fights before being inactive
Ricky Hatton. Was undefeated and had beat the feared kosta tzu
Shane mosely had just beat the breaks of margarito one fight prior to Mayweather.
Cottos only losses were PAC and margarito at the time
Guerrero only had one loss and back then people on this forum thought he was the second coming. Had no recent losses.
Victor Ortiz had beat berto and Nate cambell prior to the fight
Canelo. Was undefeated. Had beaten cintron and mosely
*** never fought TZU who was done after Hatton in 2005. Two years after Floyd entered the jr Welters
*** never fought margarito at 147 who was proven to be a cheater later
*** never fought Vernon Forrest, Quintana, Paul Williams
*** mosely, Trinidad, and Vargas were in the welterweights when Floyd fought corralles at featherweight/lightweight
The only the knock on Floyd is that he didn't fight PAC at the time when PAC destroyed Cotto. People just wanted Floyd to loose. He faced most of his biggest opponents within 2 fights of people calling them out for him. With the exception of Judah and PAC the handpicking myth is a lie. The real issue is that Floyd had a 13 year prime while most fighters primes only last 5 years.
Lmao. Yes he did
Sharmba sucked
Judah came off a loss and still knocked floyd down .
Baldomir was very overated and slow , his claim to fame was beating an overated zab judah.
Oscar was a part time has been .
Hatton was a small fighter moving up and arguably lost to collazo going into the floyd fight.
Mosley was old and was coming off a 15 month layoff after beating a great style matchup for himself in margarito
Cotto was solid , but he wasnt at his gest after getting pounded by margarito. He was a shell of himself and has cherry picked ever since he was knovked out by margo
Ghost gurrreo sucked azz . Very overated , especially at 147
Ortiz was always known as a head case quitter.
Canelo was green and was coming off beat josesito lopez and alfonzo gomez at 154 (two 140 fighters brought up, Then wins a controversial fight with trout in texas)
He missed margarito, vargas, trinidad ,paul williams, vernon forrest ,winky wright , erislandry lara , and a prime pacman just to name a few.
Berto was a waste and so was a very very green connor who he carried . His last three fights were gimme wins . Instead of fighting andrade or charlo .
Fury clearly outboxed wilder. It was a great performance by fury.
Feeling thoughout the fight was wilder was being outboxed and had no answers and need to get lucky and get an actual knockout inside of 12 rds to win and he failed .
Fury landed more power ,more combos ,more jabs , made wilder miss more and fury won more rounds .
Fury clearly beat wilder. That 12th round knocksown was straight luck with fury going forward when he didnt need to. Should have kept boxing ,but he still won ,thats how big his lead was.
I wouldnt mind fury vs AJ
Put wilder in there with other heavys
Knockdowns are not the end all .
Anyone who knows boxing knows its a 12 round fight
Tyson fury won more rounds, landed a higher percentage
And was controlling the pace the whole fight . His defense was great ,he controlled distance and landed combinations and counters.
Watching the fight , the feeling was wilder was being beaten throughout and he needed a KNOCKOUT to win the fight. He needed to stop fury inside of the 12 rds to win because he was being outboxed clearly .
No doubt fury won and was robbed a great victory.
wilder knew he lost, look at his reaction when the last card was read. re watch the fight and rewind every exchange, fury won very decisively.
Fury was outclassing wilder
Its not even close. I wouldnt mind fury just going right for AJ on his momentum of truely beating wilder. Just stay in shape and keep fighting
I want to discuss the feeling of watching the fight in the moment and feeling wilder needed a KNOCKOUT
Also anyone having the feeling before and after that there was almost no way they were gonna let wilder lose to fury in the usa much like canelo in the first GGG fight.
North american fighters get the benefit of the doubt everytime over foreigners
I go for AJ if im fury. He clearly beat wilder. He took wilders best lucky punches and still outboxed and beat wilder. There is nothing wilder can do but get lucky.
If he fights wilder again,
Make wilder travel to wembly.