The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

Seriously. I came in just to see who decided to bump this thread. Turned out to be some clown on his first post. Yea, I went straight to the last page once I saw the op date. Shameless I tell ya...

Dispelling the myth that Mayweather fought his opponents at the wrong time. The short sightedness of fans is off the charts. One fan says it and All the boxing analyst run with it. Genaro hernandez. Only lost to delahoya in the mid 90s before Floyd was factor Angel Manfreddy. Was a feared boxer at the time and hadn't lost in years before Floyd. Lasted two or 3 rounds Diego corralles. Undefeated and Floyd was considered the underdog. Castillo went on to beat corralles and Joel Casamayor afterwards. Chop chop. This was his first fight at jr welter and he went toe to toe with him Chop chop had two losses at the time and one was to Judah. This is notable since in this fight Larry Merchant and the HBO cast said Gatti and sharmba Mitchell would beat Floyd and Floyd would not fight him. 2004(watch it on YouTube to hear, it was a good fight anyway) Gatti 2005. Only took one fight before this. But By the time this fight started regardless of what was said and forgotten two fights earlier- Floyds now the favorite. Gatti was still on his win streak since Mickey Ward2003. What changed ? Sharmba. 2005 Coming of lost to Tzu but still everybody said Floyd Couldn't beat him 3 fights earlier and e had already lost to Tzu back in 2003 Judah was coming off loss to Carlos baldomir. This was floyds first fight at welter. Hardly cherry picking when moving up in weight Baldomir. Had just beaten Judah and Gatti. Had no recent losses. Only the losses he already had prior to beating Judah Delahoya. Was partially inactive before Mayweather other than a tuneup. Had been fighting at super welter and middle in his fights before being inactive Ricky Hatton. Was undefeated and had beat the feared kosta tzu Shane mosely had just beat the breaks of margarito one fight prior to Mayweather. Cottos only losses were PAC and margarito at the time Guerrero only had one loss and back then people on this forum thought he was the second coming. Had no recent losses. Victor Ortiz had beat berto and Nate cambell prior to the fight Canelo. Was undefeated. Had beaten cintron and mosely *** never fought TZU who was done after Hatton in 2005. Two years after Floyd entered the jr Welters *** never fought margarito at 147 who was proven to be a cheater later *** never fought Vernon Forrest, Quintana, Paul Williams *** mosely, Trinidad, and Vargas were in the welterweights when Floyd fought corralles at featherweight/lightweight The only the knock on Floyd is that he didn't fight PAC at the time when PAC destroyed Cotto. But in 2009 Pac was afraid of needles. He faced most of his biggest opponents within 2 fights of people calling them out for him. The real issue is that Floyd had a 13 year prime while most fighters primes only last 5 years. People just be rattling off names. Here's a realistic list of top guys in his weight classes -- you can go head and pick out who would have beat Floyd. Or how his resume would of been so much stronger. Lol ----------------------------------- Super featherweight -2001
 Acelino Freitas, Joel Casamayor, Robert Garcia, Steve Forbes, Jong Kwon Baek, Takanori Hatakeyama, Lavka Sim and Jorge Barrios. Lightweight 2002-2003 
Paul Spadafora, Leonard Dorin, Stevie Johnston, Artur Grigorian, Raul Balbi, Juan Lazcano and Javier Jauregui Light Welterweight 2004-2005
 Kostya Tszyu, Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, Vivian Harris, Carlos Maussa, and Junior Witter Welterweight 2006 
Antonio Margarito, Kermit Cintron and Luis Collazo Light Middleweight 2007
 Cory Spinks, Vernon Forrest, Joachim Alcine, Serhiy Dzinziruk Welterweight 2007 Paul Williams --------------------- He has engineered a great resume. It definitely earned him a shot at being the GOAT (he is TBE in my opinion). But the critics will always carry certain and valid points to be able to attack it as well, and Floyd shouldn’t complain with them as they are his own fault. You mentioned 2-3 years earlier they were favorites to beat Floyd, oh well in boxing a lot can happen in 2-3 years. One can be a shot fighter in six months. Aside from his resume at 130-135, he didn’t fight anyone else at their absolute primes. Or maybe just Hatton. And hmm guerrero? He didn’t fight them when fans exactly wanted him to. He always get us to settle with good enough fights. Hoping the other one would be next. Whether it’s by choice or not, it still deserves to be put in a microscope when weighing his resume. And the best win we can find is a prime Corrales. With absolutely no excuses. I get the idea that he can beat them during their primes, but let’s not give him credit like did just because would have had. It didn’t happen. He beat a cotto who already suffered two career ending beatings, and was considered a damaged goods at that time, even then he needed some work. That’s because he wouldn’t want to work with arum? But 3 yrs later he was okay with it when he saw pac could no longer KO the algieries of the world? He beat an inactive oscar coming a year layoff and just had one win over 3 years. Mosley was already considered past his best even before the cotto fight. He was like 5-5 in his last 10 fights. Beat marquez who climbed two divisions to fight him, and got cheated on the scales. I can go on and on. And the holes in his resume are legit even though there are bunch of great names in it. Only the Corrales and Castillo II wins really stand out. With having zero issues and excuses. Had any of these fights happened at the right time he’d be the SOLID GOAT in my opinion: Had he fought Pac in 2009. Had he fought Cotto in 2008. Had he fought Oscar in 2003-2004. Had he fought Canelo at full 154lbs. Not saying he is downright at fault on those fights not happening, but if they did happen he would have had a better win, a signature win so much better than his win over prime Corrales. Sugar ray had duran, hearns, haggler and benitez for quick comparison

HA!! Here we go... He fought hatton when he was in the top 10 P4P and a after he became 147 WBA champion But Hatton struggled at 147. Floyd should have fought at 140 HeHe fought canelo after the biggest win of his career against trout, he was WBC/WBA champion, Top 10 P4P, and the top junior middlewight : Nah nelo didn't deserve top 10 and it was very nelo green. Why don't Floyd fight nelo now? Cos Floyd handpicks He fought DLH when DLH became the 154 WBC champion. He moved up in weight for that fight too : Only time Floyd's really conceded advantage. But DLH was past prime and fighting bh leftovers. It's actually easier to pick apart pac's resume since he fought a lot of guys soon after losses, when they weren't champions, catchweights, etc. LOL :usa: PAC beat all common opponents more dominantly and 8:division titilist. Floyd should have cherry picked sergioMartinez at 160 and try beat the weakest 168lb fighter he'd nearly equal pac.pac beat great fighters more times. Got 2 wins over jmm, whilst Floyd hasn't got a legit win over jmm. PAC beat Barrera X2, Bradley X2, Morales X2. Just did everything on grander scale

This thread is all wrong.wrong.But HA!! Here we go... He fought Hatton when he struggled at 147. He fought hatton when he was in the top 10 P4P and a after he became 147 WBA champion He only fought Nell when nelo couldn't ko ssm. He fought canelo after the biggest win of his career against trout, he was WBC/WBA champion, Top 10 P4P, and the top junior middlewight He fought Dlh after losing to bh not long before. He fought DLH when DLH became the 154 WBC champion. He moved up in weight for that fight too You can pick apart any record for any ATG be it pacs,srl, durans. But Floyd's resume falls short after alls been said and done. It's actually easier to pick apart pac's resume since he fought a lot of guys soon after losses, when they weren't champions, catchweights, etc. LOL :usa:

i think mayweather has all the tools but one thing i can point is his quick thinking, speed and defensive abilities. Manages to lure opponents inside his way like he did against others. first post ever bumps a year old mayweather thread...just use your main account ffs.:lol1:

This thread is all wrong.wrong.But He fought Hatton when he struggled at 147. He only fought Nell when nelo couldn't ko ssm. He fought Dlh after losing to bh not long before. And a lot of opponents just aren't that good in first place or past prime. And he never fought outside country. You can pick apart any record for any ATG be it pacs,srl, durans. But Floyd's resume falls short after alls been said and done. The fact floyd is famous for trying to get things in his favour of not giving advantagescaway if at all possible like his life depended on it or rather his zero makes it self explanatory he handpicked or cherry picked

i think mayweather has all the tools but one thing i can point is his quick thinking, speed and defensive abilities. Manages to lure opponents inside his way like he did against others.

he was very obviously kept from margarito and was fine with that. just look at his rhetoric concerning the fight when margarito was a top fighter and floyd was offered an eight million dollar pay day. the other obvious one is pacquiao. both sides didn't want to take that fight right away. they let it build for too long, and manny had already gotten knocked out and was basically all done from fighting above his weight class for so many years. anybody who acts like floyd mayweather wanted to make the pacquiao fight all along is dishonest. they waited for manny to get old, and they both made a ton of money using the prospect of a fight between the two to promote fights against lesser fighters. difference is that manny fouyght lesser fighters while being naturally a 35 or 40 lb fighter by the end of his career. and floyd, a welterweight, fought lesser welterweights and smaller guys moving up.

. Would you say Floyd was scared of Clottey? Baldomir was the lineal champ and WBC. . That was a big deal not long ago. If you say it wasn't your lying !! Marg was the WBO. Which is worthless trinket. Why didn't Marg go for the WBC or lineal himself. This a serious list, I didn't add Clottey because he's a non-factor. Clottey was better than Baldomir

Pacquiao and Khans rivalry started in Freddie Roachs gym, with Khan shooting off his mouth saying he could beat Pac, and regularly got the best of him in sparring. It was the making of a true rivalry.. Not just money chasing.. AMIR KHAN SAYS BOB ARUM TO BLAME FOR PACQUIAO FIGHT NOT HAPPENING; EXPLAINS IN DETAIL WHAT HAPPENED(video in his own words) "He says, manny team didnt want the fight. They played him along.... We negotiated everything...Only that wasn't done, was the contract signed..Bob being the advisor and promoter for pacquaio... he didnt want the fight.. Bob wanted Horn for Manny.. He went to fight Jeff Horn, which no one really heard of " --Amir Khan ____________________________________________________________ At first I thought Arum's crony poster was stupid.. Now, I'm starting to think he's purposefully spreading misinformation... Your ignored now..Your game is old.. Where is the proof that he got the better in sparing because I heard the opposite. Did you see how Manny dominated Algieri, knocking him down 6 times but Khan struggled? Khan says: "it seemed to me that Arum didnt want the fight" He says that he was "told" the funds were there but you have to have funds up front to make the fight happen. Jeff Horn is an undefeated fighter while Khan was just dominated and KOd. It woulda been interesting though to see how the Muslims scored for Khan right around Ramadan

Pacquiao and Khans rivalry started in Freddie Roachs gym, with Khan shooting off his mouth saying he could beat Pac, and regularly got the best of him in sparring. It was the making of a true rivalry.. Not just money chasing.. AMIR KHAN SAYS BOB ARUM TO BLAME FOR PACQUIAO FIGHT NOT HAPPENING; EXPLAINS IN DETAIL WHAT HAPPENED(video in his own words) "He says, manny team didnt want the fight. They played him along.... We negotiated everything...Only that wasn't done, was the contract signed..Bob being the advisor and promoter for pacquaio... he didnt want the fight.. Bob wanted Horn for Manny.. He went to fight Jeff Horn, which no one really heard of " --Amir Khan ____________________________________________________________ At first I thought Arum's crony poster was stupid.. Now, I'm starting to think he's purposefully spreading misinformation... Your ignored now..Your game is old..

hmmmm... i wonder why Khan vs Pac never happened... 4/12 fighters were not with top rank.. Where is the Pac vs Thurman, Brook, Spence Porter talk?????? Pacs literally ran out of ARUM fighters to fight LOL Khan blamed his fight with Pac falling apart due to Dubai, his hand, etc etc but He did say Floyd ducked him

Arum handpicks all his fighters opponents, which he accused Floyd of doing. Arum created the handpicking myths, due to Floyd no longer working with him.The boxing media copied Arum's sentiments. The definitive guide to Arum ducking fighters Lets look at Arums matchmaking. Arum fighters @ super feather weight via http://www.toprank.com/ (current Donaire left THIS YEAR 2017) Nicholas Walters Jason Sosa Miguel Marriaga Vasyl Lomachenko joseph Adorno Erick De Leon NICHOLAS WALTERS LAST 4 fights 2016-11-26 Vasyl Lomachenko* Arum/Toprank 2015-12-19 Jason Sosa Arum/Toprank 2015-06-13 Miguel Marriaga Arum/Toprank 2014-10-18 Nonito Donaire* Arum/Toprank Vasyl Lomachenko Last 4 fights 2017-08-05 Miguel Marriaga Arum/Toprank 2017-04-08 Jason Sosa Arum/Toprank 2016-11-26 Nicholas Walters Arum/Toprank 2016-06-11 Roman Martinez Lets look at Pacquiaos run at WelterWeight 2017-07-02 Jeff Horn 2016-11-05 Jessie Vargas ARUM/TOPRANK 2016-04-09 Timothy Bradley Jr ARUM/TOPRANK 2015-05-02 Floyd Mayweather Jr 2014-11-23 Chris Algieri 2014-04-12 Timothy Bradley Jr ARUM/TOPRANK 2013-11-24 Brandon Rios ARUM/TOPRANK 2012-12-08 Juan Manuel Marquez ARUM/TOPRANK 2012-06-09 Timothy Bradley Jr ARUM/TOPRANK 2011-11-12 Juan Manuel Marquez ARUM/TOPRANK Marquez signed to Arum to Face Pacqaiou, click here lol 2011-05-07 Shane Mosley 2010-11-13 Antonio Margarito ARUM/TOPRANK 2010-03-13 Joshua Clottey ARUM/TOPRANK 2009-11-14 Miguel Cotto ARUM/TOPRANK hmmmm... i wonder why Khan vs Pac never happened... 4/12 fighters were not with top rank.. Where is the Pac vs Thurman, Brook, Spence Porter talk?????? The Khan pac rivalry didnt produce a fight because Khan is with Al Haymon... Pacs literally ran out of ARUM fighters to fight LOL AMIR KHAN SAYS BOB ARUM TO BLAME FOR PACQUIAO FIGHT NOT HAPPENING; EXPLAINS IN DETAIL WHAT HAPPENED Said fight was done.... Bob held it up... 3 different fighters.. same thing...... Do you notice a pattern here Can Arum negotiate a fight where his fighter is not the A side??? Every non arum fighter is a cautious fighter... Arum wants broner for pac 05/17 Arum bashes everyfighter that doesnt belong to him. Look on youtube and you will find more than enough evidence. People only believe Arum when its conveinant. Mikey beating broner means nothing 3 months later, lol Mikey calls out Loma.. Arum says Mikey is not a draw which is my earlier point verbatim.... Arums fighters don't fight anybody dangerous but he give them the reputation of dangerous in order to manuever himself into more money via public opinion. His fighter chase money fights but he derides people not under his banner for chasing money fights! oh yea.... _____________________________________________ In a recent interview, Top Rank's CEO, Bob Arum, stated that WBC lightweight champion Mikey Garcia (37-0, 30 KOs) is demanding "millions of dollars" for a fight with Vasyl Lomachenko (8-1, 6 KOs), who holds the WBO super featherweight title. Garcia has no idea how Arum came up with that information, because he says the two of them have never discussed the financial terms, or any terms for that matter, for a Lomachenko fight. "Bob Arum does not even know what we're asking for, because we've never sat down to discuss that issue. He always says that I ask for a lot of money, and that's why the fights have never been given to me, but that's something that can not be known - simply because he's never sat down and talked to me. We have never discussed that issue," Garcia said to ESPN Deportes. http://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-garcia-reacts-arum-money-claim-on-lomachenko-bout--119162 ____________________________________ needle gate via Alex Ariza, Mannys former conditioning coach and heres alex on mikeys contract dispute ___________________________________ Heres how toprank does business.... The lawsuit alleges that Garcia’s contract “improperly provides Top Rank the ability to extend the agreement indefinitely, essentially rendering the contracting fighter an indentured servant of Top Rank.” The filing claims that the contract violates California law. It also claims that the promoter has also violated the United States’ Muhammad Ali Act for multiple reasons, including “by failing to make required disclosures to Garcia concerning, among other things, the amount of money it would make from each of Garcia’s bouts.” According to Garcia, the contract with Top Rank is already expired - with two pending clauses remaining. One clause provides Top Rank with the ability, until the end of May, to match any competitor's offer. The other clause provides Top Rank with the promotional rights to Garcia's first five defenses . Before you corporate cheerleaders start clamoring a clause is a clause.. Yes, but failing to disclose it, is serious shady business. Toprank settled. Settlement is undisclosed. If they had a good counter suit and did things properly, do you think they would of relented it? OH yea, and since Arum and Mayweather were on good terms....2008? Without fanfare, which is a rarity in boxing, Floyd Mayweather Jr. filed a lawsuit against his former promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank, in Clark County (Nev.) District Court two weeks ago. Mayweather claims that Arum shortchanged him on matches against Arturo Gatti in 2005 and Zab Judah in 2006. In the lawsuit, Mayweather said he was due 85% of Top Rank's revenue from the Gatti fight and 80% from the Judah fight. He claims Arum has refused to turn over the records for accounting. Mayweather has asked for the statutory minimum of $10,000 on each of the five counts, but would be in line for millions in punitive damages on a breach of contract claim. "There's no question we owe him some money," Arum said. "There's no dispute there. But he owes us a lot of money and the people he's involved with owe us even more. After 98% of the money we owed him was paid, we stopped paying him for a reason. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/fight-personal-floyd-mayweather-jr-bob-arum-article-1.286596 Arum said he paid money to J Prince and other fees. Nothing became of that lawsuit that i know of. But it definitively proves that they were no longer on good terms after the Oscar fight.. Makes sense why he didnt fight Arum fighters Oh yea... Cotto left Arum in 2011. Mayweather fought Cotto in 2012.. Coincidence??? Bob Arum Why He Will Never Forgive Miguel Cotto He clearly says... "Cotto Pledged himself to us for the rest of the career" Whole career????? Really, Bob... You can't forgive him for being a business man..INSANE Margarito vs Mayweather Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million. Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in. "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road." Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya. "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said. http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382 Mayweather went on to make 8 million vs Baldomir, 25 million Vs Oscar, and 20 Mil vs Hatton. He made this because he was able to negotiate a better deal.. And as Bob says he doesnt work for pennies.^^^^ Mayweather VS Baldomir (instead of Margarito and the contract ext. with Bob) Ppv was reported at 325 k. You can find a link if you try, here. 325k ppv x $50 = 16.2 mil+. Live gate 1 million= 16.3 million Promoted takes 30% of 16.3. = 4.9mil for Dan Goosen Managers take roughly 10%= 1.6 mil 4.9 + 1.6 = 6.5 million. Revenue minus promotion and management cost. 16.3 million - 6.5 million = 9.8 million for fighters. Fighter purses. 80/20 split. Baldomir makes 1.6 million + Floyd 8 million = 9.6 million total So in our estimation we are off 200k. But since we don't have the exact figures such as hd ppv vs standard that's reasonable. Also don't have exact gate or manager cost, promotional cost, event venue or stage renting, licensing etc. _________________________ bob arum said he never talked directly to floyd during pac negotiations.. floyd talked to Lebouf his step son whom has a good relationship with floyd Dana on how easy it was to hash deal with floyd Bob Arum hasnt bashed Golovkin yet because he hopes to face him agasinst Ramirez @168. If Golvkin doesnt take the fight, hell be next on Arums **** list of cautious fighters. “The fight Gilberto wants, assuming he’s successful in this , is against Triple-G,” Arum said during the conference call. “And I would agree to fight that fight winner-take-all. I think Ramirez destroys Golovkin the same way that he destroyed Arthur Abraham.” http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-ramirez-destroy-golovkin-winner-take-all--115171 "I really believe that as you said, they have trained together and when fighters train together - even though training is not the same as the fight - pretty well they figure the other guy out and he is very confident on how well he'll do against Golovkin," Arum told BoxingScene.com. http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-ramirez-confident-what-he-against-golovkin--106041 ALL OF THIS IS UNMISTAKEABLE PROOF.. Arum and his cronies, steve kim and dan rafael have created a propoganda machine for years to make Arum money. Arums fighers fight each other. Arum has been overpricing himeself LIL G im not entertaining anymore talk of ward vs Golovkin. I dont blame for Golovkin not fighting ward-- its common sense. He would loose bad.... Thats not what this threads for. Golovkins faced nobody. He has one name on his resume and that was his toughest fight.. A guy that was destroyed by Dmitry Pirog. Pirog had a similiar style to G, come to think of it... But Pirog was less cautious. Gs biggest challenge is a guy who's unproven at his weightclass.. Go figure. Ward asked him for 1 fight at 168 and Golovkin starts talking about staying at his weight class. HE COULD HAVE TAKE ONE FIGHT and went back down... DUH. When people ignore the obvious, on 3 different occasions- its not a mistake, its telling you something...... http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-nation-gggs-team-turned-down-ward-36-minutes--96761 http://www.************.com/2015/09/golovkins-promoter-explains-why-they-didnt-take-ward-fight/ ___________________________________ Loeffler didn’t want to commit to a fight against Ward when he had a pay-per-view fight for Golovkin against IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux (34-2, 31 KOs). Loeffler thinks the money that Golovkin will make in his fight against Lemieux and the winner of the Miguel Cotto vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez fight would be more than the money they would have gotten for a fight against Ward. Loeffler says that Ward’s promoters at Roc Nation Sports wanted a 50-50 deal with Golovkin. Loeffler thinks it’s better for Golovkin to wait until he fights Lemieux and the Cotto-Canelo winner before commiting to a fight against Ward, because they could get a better than 50-50 split of the money. ________________________________________ WOW ISNT THIS THE SAME THING FLOYD IS CRITISIZED FOR??? FIGHTING FOR MONEY LMAO Arums fighers fight eachother because hes garaunteed to profit. Not because other fighters are scared.. You guys read into everything but the obvious. "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," BOB ARUM on why he didnt want to help Mayweather fight Oscar http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382 WHY HAS NON OF THE PROFESSIONAL BOXING MEDIA WROTE ABOUT THIS BEFORE ME??? Mayweather Challenge Now so far the scorecard is like this. Mayweather duck score card ------------------------------- Winky (probable not his weightclass) Golovkin (probable not his weightclass) Martinez (probable*) Margarito (Arum said Mayweather was willing, dispute over contract extension) Cotto (Debatable- Arum connected) Tszyu (2004-2005 debatable) PAC (2009 afraid of needles) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pick the names that would make Mayweather and ATG if he were to fight and beat. You can also add names as long as they belong to his division at the time he was fighting there. Super Featherweight 1998-2001
 Acelino Freitas, Joel Casamayor, Robert Garcia, Steve Forbes, Jong Kwon Baek, Takanori Hatakeyama, Lavka Sim and Jorge Barrios. Lightweight 2002-2003
 Paul Spadafora, Leonard Dorin, Stevie Johnston, Artur Grigorian, Raul Balbi, Juan Lazcano and Javier Jauregui Light Welterweight 2004-2005
 Kostya Tszyu, Vivian Harris, Carlos Maussa, and Junior Witter Welterweight 2006
 Antonio Margarito, Kermit Cintron and Luis Collazo Light Middleweight 2007
 Cory Spinks, Vernon Forrest, Joachim Alcine, Serhiy Dzinziruk and Roman Karmazin Welterweight 2007
 Paul Williams

Floyd did to Broner what Puff did to Usher, bad for boxing

The story is about Arum slander of Mayweather over the ears. I'd didn't bring up Oscar because he's not part of this story. if your not interested in the history of Arums matchmaking and his continued slander of Floyd. Cool. Move along. You brought up Ward right after you posted the Floyd in the ski mask. Stop burying my good posts with your nonsense- babbling sheep. No, the thread is about the myth of Mayweather not having a padded record/ to finally beat a white boy's yet no one mentions that JCC beat em both by a mile and yes you did bring up Oscar being the poor victim to the wickedest promoter of all time. You must love Jeremiah Wright?...lol Why bring Ward into? Hes nothing like Floyd, not flashy, not brash not aroogant, doesnt promote a gangster image. Yet their just alike in your eyes.. Well youve just exposed yourself for what we already figured out pages ago.. We get it.. Arrogant black men need to be punished lol Again you brought up Ward but now that you mention it, he and Canelo are becoming sadly more and more like Floyd. Quite appropriate that we are on the topic of myths. For instance, SOG used to be one of my favorites for he is vastly braver than TBE but they seem be taking the part of the proverbial godkings, hence their monikers. So I started doing some research and sure enough, the Sons of God in the Bible are the Nephilim godkings. I then decided to check into their behavior to see if the monikers were possibly just out of arrogant ignorance but unfortunately found that like godkings, they both gloat and giggle for ill gotten gains--like the god of mammon and pharmaekeia. I see Canelo doing the same, hence all the bad press. In the Bible, the Nephilim were satanically possessed kings, which the people began to worship imitate, which is exactly what is happening here with boxers and fans of Floyd. Floyd bullying his team members So here we see Ward giggling after the gross injustice. Tony Weeks has done similar for Floyd. We also seen Ward take unfair advantage of the health of Chad Dawson. Canelo has likewise been taking advantage of smaller fighters ever since Floyd took advantage of him. My point again is that FLoyd has become like the governing bodies and other boxers are following his lead. Floyd did to Broner what Puff did to Usher, bad for boxing. Then we see also Ward sneaking around and paying off John David Jackson and in a manner that Floyd sent fellow Al Haymon fighter Pauli Malignaggi to spy on McGregar Now Floyd Mayweather had made lot of racist comments over the years and it seems Ward was also racially biased in his HBO commentating Floyd is basically following Arum https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZEWrKbPT18w/maxresdefault.jpg https://img.orgasmatrix.com/mayweather-strippers/mayweather-strippers-05.jpg Not only godkings but Pharmekiea. Throughout his career, Floyd Mayweather has traditionally teamed up with the most renowned PED Gurus including Angel Herdia, Don Hale, etc.. and then Ward working with convicted Ped dealer Victor Conte and a sudden two year break. :firedevil

I didnt bring Ward up, you did You must be projecting your own antisemitism with all the Arum hate and nothing thing about Oscar but I guess thats because he puts his own fighter's health jeopardy to protect Mayweather. See how he let Marquez and Canelo screwed by weight, etc etc.. The story is about Arum slander of Mayweather over the ears. I'd didn't bring up Oscar because he's not part of this story. if your not interested in the history of Arums matchmaking and his continued slander of Floyd. Cool. Move along. You brought up Ward right after you posted the Floyd in the ski mask. Stop burying my good posts with your nonsense- babbling sheep.

This all the long way of saying Golovkin chased the money fight. Gennady Money Mayweather, following the blueprint. Handpicked opponents. No it indicates that SOG Ward may have been lying Wow, so you think Lemieux is a handpicked nobody?

Floyd came out with the ski mask cause he was fixing to rob the bank again..anyone know how much each fighter generated? Heard minimum pay out for each was $100 million for Floyd and $40 million for Conor Curious to know what they ended up getting wouldn't surprise me if Floyd raked in a few hundred million off this fight..definitely a nice way to retire again..I feel like with his skill set he should keep fighting even at 40 years old the amount of money he can generate is off the charts

circular Why bring Ward into? Hes nothing like Floyd, not flashy, not brash not aroogant, doesnt promote a gangster image. Yet their just alike in your eyes.. Well youve just exposed yourself for what we already figured out pages ago.. We get it.. Arrogant black men need to be punished lol I didnt bring Ward up, you did GGG also hasn't gone out of his way to fight Ward. Yet I hear everyone cal him an ATG without challenge. Ok. Cool. You must be projecting your own antisemitism with all the Arum hate and nothing thing about Oscar but I guess thats because he puts his own fighter's health jeopardy to protect Mayweather. See how he let Marquez and Canelo screwed by weight, etc etc.. By the way I was clearly making the "hitting a nerve comment" to poster BJ12 so its kinda creepy that you are projecting toward yourself his emotional discharge over Arum and his money.

The fight with Lemiuex was announced in July of 2015 and the winner to fight Cotto and they probably knew about it months before that. Where's the date of the offer in your quote by Roc Nation? Ward hadnt fought for two years and when he finally did fight in 2015 , he couldnt even make 168 anymore. GGG has offered him a fight at 168 but Ward wants it at 175 Golovkin offered to go down to 154 for Mayweather but Ward sounds like a bully calling out little guys. He did try to fight Floyd at 160 yet he cant make 164 or 168 fro Golovkin..lol http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-mayweather-ill-go-160-fight-you--63365 This all the long way of saying Golovkin chased the money fight. Gennady Money Mayweather, following the blueprint. Handpicked opponents.