He has touched the canvas, dummy.
Think he's talking about, touching the canvas without being off balance like the Judah punch. He did touch the canvas but he was more off balance than anything.
You can have his opinion; out of all fighters you think his has any weight vs some of the true ATG? How about Tyson & Holyfield saying Mayweather ducked Pacquaio?
Shall I link countless other valued opinions that side with the notion that Mayweather avoided Pacquaio? Tell me this, can you even find any ATG that believe Pacquaio avoided Mayweather and not the other way around?
Mayweather ain't even close to the GOAT man, stop being a moron. Chris fatass ain't even relevant in the heavyweight scene, the guys a nobody in the grand scheme.
You can't even find me a video of any respected opinions stating Mayweather is the GOAT, can you?
Would you be equally as mad if he said Pac was the G.O.A.T?
would love to see that fight get made.
Lucas did win the poll on who he would fight next.
If both guys win their upcoming fights, make it happen Haymon!
That is kinda funny he left out the nationality of the fighter that beat him. You can't really knock broner though, he made no excuses for his lost, like a lot of fighters do.
That is kinda funny he left out the nationality of the fighter that beat him. You can't really knock broner though, he made no excuses for his lost, like a lot of fighters do.
Yeah, he lost to Ruslan as well. His conditioning, level of opposition, and defense makes him a B Level fighter. He is damn near a HOF'mer already. One more BIG win and Bradley is flirting with the HOF
He lost to PAC both times, clearly. The first fight counts as a win but that fight should be erased from the books if their going to give him that win. I think you have to look at the time he and Marquez fought, Marquez wasn't prime. Do you think Bradley will beat Porter?
Agreed, good points. I'm not sure he had a choice with Provodnikov. I tend to believe that Provodnikov forced Bradley Into a slugfest as opposed to Bradley's claim that he Intentionally engaged Provodnikov In order to prove a point. I also believe Bradley could and would win a rematch If he decided to stick to boxing.
In the Provodnikov fight he was trying to prove a point and almost lost because of it. He should've known not to do that with Pac. Pac's defense is much better than Provodnikov's and he's better skill wise. I do think Timmy learned a valuable lesson last night, stick to the game plan.
"You know that Tim Bradley would have never beaten Shane Mosley"
That's the best you can do? LoL. TB would've beaten Mosley, man. Mosley is a power dummy with little to no mobility at the age he was when Floyd almost got Ko'ed by him. An aging fighter wouldn't have a chance against TB, PERIOD. Stop defending Floyd as if that win was so impressive and just answer the question that this thread is about. Has Floyd EVER defeated a fighter as good as a prime Bradley???
You honestly think Bradley would've beaten Mosley, Castillo, Corales, Oscar, Hatton or Ndou? I can name a few more on his resume that would've probably beaten Timmy. Before Saturday night, you could say Tim got gift decisions in his last three fights.
Would a rematch look the same If Bradley decided to fight the way he did against Marquez? I agree he was battered In there first meeting but I think Bradley looks better If he changes his style In the rematch. Then again Provodnikov put him In a position where he had to trade. This Is a fight that needs to happen again
This fight should happen again. Tim was doing well until he abandoned his game plan like he did Saturday night. You would think he knows he's a boxer and not a brawler by his knockout ratio.
You honestly think Bradley would've beaten Mosley, Castillo, Corales, Oscar, Hatton or Ndou?
I think Bradley beats them all except Oscar. Oscar KO's him. As long as you're talking about the versions of these fighters that Floyd fought. Bradley is a B+ fighter. What were all of them besides Oscar, who was an A Level fighter at the time? None of those fighters with the exception of Hatton, were B Level fighters. Bradley defeats all of those fighters except Oscar. Corrales was definitely a C Level fighter at that time. Hatton B Level fighter, Castillo C Level fighter, Ndou? LoL. Ndou was a C Level fighter man.
To be honest I like Bradley but he's a C level fighter at best. Pac beat him
8-4 the first fight 9-3 on Saturday. He went life and death with his last four fights. I honestly think Broner,Maidana and Garcia beat him
Bradley is a C-level fighter?
Look at the man's resume:
Juan Manuel Marquez
Miguel Vazquez
Devon Alexander
Ruslan Provodnikov
Lamont Peterson
Kendal Holt
Junior Witter
Joel Casamayor (very faded)
Luis Abregu
I bet you think Castillo and Corrales are ATG's because Floyd fought them. Lol, both their resumes are sh*t compared to Bradley's.
I assume you're being a smart ass by the Castillo and Corrales statement. If I thought they well HOFer's, it wouldn't be because Floyd fought them. That's just my opinion. To me Bradley really isn't that good. He uses his head and rough house tactics to get by
Yes. Bradley beats Porter. Porter is wild and overly aggressive. TB has good movement and is much faster and has better defense. He wins a decision. Porter is going to beat Paulie though. What tool this guy Paulie is. LoL. He said recently that he would beat Manny. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Porter is gonna beat Paulie. It's a known fact Paulie doesn't like Manny but Manny at 25% beats Paulie
It appears that you just started watching.
BEFORE the Gatti fight, Arum was interviewed and stated what was up. Cotto needed more time but that fight was going to happen in 1 to 1.5 years from then. At that point a Cotto had to get more fights under his belt. Arum also said that if there was a guy that can beat Floyd, it was Cotto but he was not ready for the fight at that point. If you get boxing, I don't need to explain any further!
Shane? Shane was calling out Floyd from late 2006 to 2010. Floyd said in plenty of interviews that he was not interested.
Manny? Floyd was the ducker as soon as Floyd took the same route that the rest of his team took by calling Manny a PEDs user, with no proof.
Jack ass you're repeating the same thing I said with the Cotto situation. Floyd called Mosley out and Mosley outbid mysel asking for an 8 mill payday. You call Floyd the ducker but truth of the matter, PAC and Arum had 40 million excuses not to make the fight happen. Floyd accepted all Manny's demand but he could agree to a 14 day cutoff? All Mayweather asked for was an playing field but hes the one looked at as being the coward and ducker
I was thinking the same thing last night while watching the fight. I kept thinking Pacquaio looks slow and hesitant enough that Floyd might swoop down and finally take the fight. He has aged far better (no surprise due to their styles).
I won't go as far as to say Floyd only "cherry picks", but he definitely likes to fight guys who simultaneously won their last fight, while looking vulnerable doing it.
Maidana, beat the breaks off Broner, Shane beat the dog **** out Margarito, Guerrero same with Berto, Canelo had an impressive victory. What guys are talking about?
All bark no bite. While Floyd was fighting at 140, Mosley and Oscar were fighting at 154 and 160. So it wasn't going to happen in 2005. He also never fought Tszyu
Let's make things a bit easier for people like you to understand what Floyd calling out someone means:
"I only want to fight the best and Manny you are NEXT!"
"I NEVER said that Manny is next, don't put words in my mouth"
If Floyd really wanted Mosley, why no fight until 2010 even though Mosley called him out from late 2006-2010? Respond logically, if you try.
When a risky opponent calls out Floyd, that is when we know what's up. Floyd makes up excuses all of a sudden. Just ask yourself why?
BTW, been watching boxing for a long long time .... you were probably still in diapers
Either you can't read or your comprehension skill are as terrible as your boxing knowledge. I never said he fought Tszyu.I get it now, if Floyd calls someone out, it's all bark and no bite but he gets called out he makes excuses? Take your ****ty diaper off clown!!
It appears that you just started watching.
BEFORE the Gatti fight, Arum was interviewed and stated what was up. Cotto needed more time but that fight was going to happen in 1 to 1.5 years from then. At that point a Cotto had to get more fights under his belt. Arum also said that if there was a guy that can beat Floyd, it was Cotto but he was not ready for the fight at that point. If you get boxing, I don't need to explain any further!
Shane? Shane was calling out Floyd from late 2006 to 2010. Floyd said in plenty of interviews that he was not interested.
Manny? Floyd was the ducker as soon as Floyd took the same route that the rest of his team took by calling Manny a PEDs user, with no proof.
What I stated were all facts. Floyd tried to fight Shane when he on the come up and Shane outbid myself asking for an 8 million payday. Mayweather called out Mosley, Oscar and Tszyu in 2005 but you don't know that because you weren't watching boxing then
Was watching boxing since the 80s. The arguello, Michael olanjides, azumah Nelson's, Wilfredo Gomez and Benitez son.
Floyd ducked margarito, prime PAC, prime cotto, prime pwill son. That is a fact. No matter what era you're from if you're a boxing fan that is a clear duck.
So you don't consider Pac refusing a 14 day cutoff a duck?
The fight was kinda sloppy but he didn't have to knockout Bradley to win. He didn't look like the PAC of old but no aging fighter does. Bradley has an ugly style of fighting, kind of like Shawn Porter, hard to look good against these guys,unless you box their ears off and don't engage in their swing for the fence contest.
He made Bradley look like an amateur swinging at air, making him tire himself out. The knockout looks good but I'd rather see a guy outclass his opponent with skill
I noticed they have those Hash tags things, does anyone know how to start a boycott of Floyd Mayweather-Marcos Maidana?
That is the only way for him to actually stop doing inhouse fights and cherry picked fights. Don't line his pockets.
Save your money for Sergio Martinez vs. Miguel Cotto.
Boycott it by not watching it, Arum
NO, the fight would be at a 152 CATCHWEIGHT :wave: (same as the Canelo v. Mayweather fight). Canelo's walking corpse would be slow and lethargic and Bradley would box his ears off.
Canelo weighed 165-170 fight night. You act like there was a clause where he couldn't weight more than 152 on fight night. Canelo will beat the breaks off Bradley . Why didn't manny fight Canelo? Manny is catch weight king and only fights damaged fighters.
Floyd did it with cotto and Shane.
I predict Floyd may finally fight manny IF the decline is sustained.
Maybe after manny gets visibly hurt once again.
It's obvious you just started watching boxing. Guess you don't remember after the Gatti fight, Cotto's handlers weren't ready for the Mayweather fight. Floyd had called Shane out years ago when he was on the come up and Shane came up with a ridiculous amount of money for the fight not to happen and guess you forgot about the tooth ache excuse. It was Manny who wanted the 21 day cutoff for the drug testing, Floyd said "what about 14", it was manny who turned that down. Bet you don't look at that as being a duck. You young guys need to stop posting, period!!!
Floyd ducking the top welters again, what is that now?
10 years and counting:lol1:
Beating Canelo is better than beating any welter. If a guy refuses to fight you because they don't want to submit to random drug testing and turn down a career payday, how is that a duck on Floyd's part?
No it is not.
Was beating Hatton better than beating MAB for Pacquiao. If you have a clue about boxing you would know it wasn't.
And this is the P4P title.
Pacquiao is a ATG, Canelo has not even secured his place in the HOF.
Floyd has ducked many other fighters apart from Pacquiao, each one he has a different excuse for.
Floyd turned down a career high payday and retired from the sport to duck Pacquiao, preferred to go to jail than fight Pacquiao.
What fighters did he duck? Idiot, Pacquiao is the one that turned down the career payday. He's afraid of needles remember? That's the only reason the fight didn't happen. You newcomers kill me.
please ignore this post people.
Come on man. The only thing you're focusing on is Mayweather. I'm not saying what he "supposedly" did was right but karma is a *****. You do dirt you get dirt.
The funny thing is that PAC wouldn't do the testing with Floyd but is testing for all his fights now but Floyd was ducking him. The fool also turned down a career payday, 40mill. If that isn't the biggest duck of all time!