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they did offer cotto at 150 evenually. so who's the dummy? lmao!! "The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. " made the same offer he made in 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds __________________ Bul_$h!t X's 100....they never offered the rematch with Cotto at 150, it was 147 or no fight....GTFOH with that making up stuff....thats why the fight didnt happen, because Cotto said hes not going down to 147 and be weight drained again since Manny drained him the first time going down to 145lb, those are facts buddy!

This reminds me of when they wanted Mosley at 140 and 142 :lol1: ________ Exactly! Of course that was the Mosley after ko'int Margarito, THEN after Floyd spanked Mosley and Mosley fought to a draw w/ Mora, then and only then would team Pacquiao fight Mosley at 147.....smh @ team Pacquiao!

hey dummy maybe because after the marg fight pac says he will not go above 150 anymore. so why should he go to 154 when he said he wont go above 150? its not like pac says he'll fight anyone at 154 then change his mind when he gets called out on it. pac made it clear that he wont go above 150, so a fight above 150 is not possible. clear enough for u? and about oscar it was him who called pac out to fight at 147 so whos fault is that? lmao!!!!! _______________________ Ok then dummy, why was it when Cotto was fighting at 154 and they were in discussions for a rematch, why wouldnt Manny fight Cotto at 150lbs but insisted he would only fight Cotto in the rematch if he came down to 147lbs....so your point kind of makes no sense, just admit it that Manny wants to drain every fighter thats a real threat...hmmm even Roach admitted that in an interview referring to Mosley. "We'd like to drain him down to about 140 and then make the fight" - Roach

He's been fighting guys with zero head movement for years and crap defenses. Put him vs El Radar, Leonard, Hearns or even Duran and his plus minus percentages become distinctly average. Stop using this statistic please, thanks. _________ "Put him vs El Radar, Leonard, Hearns or even Duran and his plus minus percentages become distinctly average. Stop using this statistic please," 2 different eras, stop using this comparison please !!! See how that works

stop reaching dude. manny will still get credit IF he beats canelo even at 150he just wont get the full credit he deserve just like floyd. floyd still get credit for beating canelo at 152, people is just giving him a harder time because floyd put himself in that situation by making dumb statements like how he will never drain his opponent and how he wants them at their best, etc. and to add in more floyd also fought at 154 before. if that was pac making all those statement then asked for a CW u guys would be clowning on him too so quit ur :bottle::bottle: _____________ yeah dummy but what youre forgetting is that it was Canelos team who said Canelo can make 152 for the fight, so Floyd and his team said well if he can make 152 lets do it at 152, Floyd never asked Canelo to come down to 152 ..just like your reference to odlh wanting to fight Manny at 147...

I like MP I just hate his stupid fans on NSB...but in this match-up I have to go with MP, I dont go with my heart like some of these posters but with common sense. MP's in and out style will be too much for DSG, but if DSG can hurt MP to the body then who knows...but I like MP by UD..

the hell?? LOL!! my original post is that after the marg fight pac said he will not go above 150 anymore. u posted saying team pac called martinez out at 150 and after martinez answered the call, team pac backed out. i reply to ur post asking what does martinez has anything to do with this? is martinez willing to go down to 150? or is he just saying it for the phuck of it? asked urself that. _________________ You keep crying and spouting off about this 150lb crap, so why come he wouldnt fight Cotto in a rematch at 150 (which Cotto said he could make) but insisted that Cotto come all the way down to 147? Please answer that If Manny could fight at 150lbs, Cotto was willing to fight at 150lbs for the rematch, WHY WAS MANNY INSISTING ON 147LBS THEN? Its the same thing with Manny, if he were to fight Thurman or Porter or Maidana who are all ww's at 147, then Manny would make them come down to like 143

Pacquiao is naturally 7-9 pounds lighter than Mayweather. Agreeing to fight at 150 is courageous from Pacquiao. ________ Oh wow! you have to be f_u_king kidding me right, so to you Floyd fighting Canelo at 152 makes Floyd a cw king BUT Manny fighting Canelo at 150 makes Manny courageous....you p_a_k_tards say the darnedest things !!! Floyd weighs 148 - 150 on fight nights and Manny weighs 148-150 on fight nights, so where are you gettin these extra 9 lbs from. Just admit your hero Manny won't fight Canelo not unless he's weight drained dead like ODLH was at 145 when he fought manny, or how Manny wanted Cotto to come down to 147 in their rematch.....smh @ these p_a_k_tards!!!!!!

Umm margarito fought him at 150, will canelo do the same? No. _____ Why don't he go to 154 to fight him since you and all the other pak_tards claim Mayweather weight drained Canelo at 152.....hell I'd be happy to see the fight at a 152 cw......but Nooooooo team Pacquiao feels that's too much of a risk, they wanna drain him to skeleton level (a la ODLH who team Pacquiao drained so bad they he had to be given iv's)

Damn - Floyd's failed ppv is really starting to look like it will have a major impact on the sport. breaking up the 2nd largest promoting company is no easy feat - floyd's ppv must have flopped even worse than i thuoght for this to happen ________________ You win troll of the day, no need to post anymore because you cant top that stupidity, but then again.......:lame:

I watched the Oscar vs Floyd fight a few months ago and I was surprised how much he missed, he was missing ALOT in the middle of the ring ---------- I watched the JMM vs. Pacquiao 4 fight a few weeks ago, and I was surprised how JMM wasn't missing with his right hand, he was landing ALOT, especially in rounds 3 & 6...

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/140/blame-manny-pacquiao-top-rank-golden-boy-battle ______________ That was a great article Dunn, but this is NSB, even when you throw facts at people they still tend to believe what they want to, let them tell it this all started with Floyd.....

Maidana is giving Floyd a rematch :fingersx: I wonder what the excuses will be when Floyd earns another hard fought draw ________________________________________________________________ Dude, OMFG! Is that all you do is troll and hate, I've never seen a decent post from you yet, all you do is spew the same garbage, OK we heard you the first 1000 times, now move on to something else..... Maidana vs Thurman = A very exciting fight as long as it goes cuz it probably wont go the distance...

How could he have cleaned out the division at 140 when the best 5-8 fighters are with GB......he would of been fighting bums at 140 with Top Rank!

No duck, froch has no interest in trying to be the type of fighter needed to beat ward. He'd rather have an entertaining tear-up with someone ________________ ^^^^^^^ Truly spoken from someone who loves brawlers, you're basically saying Frich doesn't possess the SKILL to beat Ward so why try, he'd rather fight someone with no skill so they can stand and slug it out....How Pathetic!

Miss Jackson camel toe has more hump then Floyd baby d:ck. ______________________ WTF!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you're female, if not that was the gayest comment I've ever heard on any forum....

Very risky fight for Pacquiao, Chris is a high risk low reward bout, a taller and bigger mover with long reach. Pac could have took on a tailormade opponent like Floyd is doing with Maidana but instead he is fighting his weakness a slick mover. Chris can move like Lara and everyone who has criticized Pac will tell you this is a stylistic problem for Manny, he can;t fight movers. Chris is like Lara the ultimate mover, gotta give Pac mad respect and props for taking on a hungry young undefeated guy like Chris, he is giving some new blood a shot at least and a guy who presents him huge problems in the ring. They should make this on Regular HBO though not PPV. treat the fans Arum, give us one free fight with Pacqiuao, like you used to do with Oscar from time to time. __________________________ I can't tell if you're serious or not, I kept reading and kept expecting to see a "LOL" but I never did..........dude if you are in any ways serious then you need to be banned from posting!

Bu bu but but Chris has a college degree doe'

were the hell is Clottey by they way? I know he fought last November which most people probably knew nothing about, his career has been a little strange since after the Pacquiao fight:theyareon he's out spending that extra money bob arum gave him to NOT fight pacquiao, because the 50 punches he threw, he landed 45 of them, then he just stopped throwing and shelled up......300,00 for the fight and 1 mil for the dive

i had it 9rds to 3 rds - Mayweather 117 Cotto 111 Rds: 1. floyd 2. floyd 3. floyd 4. floyd 5. floyd 6. cotto 7. floyd 8. cotto 9. floyd 10. cotto 11. floyd 12. floyd

Khan beats none of them, not a chance at any of them...and speaking of ducking the only ducking that was going on was from Khan...Khan ducked the ***** out of Alexander..Oh I guess you forgot to mention that huh?

Yawn!!!!!! Thing is, Floyd agreed to testing and was testing in 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, and now in 14............... Manny did not agree or has done any testing until 2013, that's 4 yrs of not testing since 09, plenty time to come off the juice, and what has he done since, OH just go 2-2 but really 1-3 (JMM won pt3)

I agree 100% with doctor_tenma and jcpryor.....why accuse or speculate if someone is juicing IF their gonna take the tests to prove their not, but in Pacqiaos case, well we all know how that went down...

Really ??????????? Sergio would destroy Pac, if a non athletic human punching bag Margarito hurt Manny the few times he did hit him, just think what a bigger, more athletic powerful, speedy Sergio would do to Manny....it wouldn't last 5 rds, this is soooooo stupid. Next it's gonna be, who wins, Pac vs Ward at 158.... Pac vs Hopkins at 168........Pac vs Klitscko at 178...... Just try and beat Bradley on Apr 12th at 147......

I tried trolling once and it was so hard, couldn't think of anything negative to say about two good fighters, but OMG some ppl just make trolling look so damn easy..

If ANY boxer would of said that about Floyd it would of been "Floyd's ducking ______" (insert name). So I'll be first, "Manny ducking Chino"

i think the last time i seen pac fight he was sleeping in the ring, yeah pretty exciting to be unconscious sleep in the ring....

Sounds like something a guy who lost a wide decision to Pacquiao would say ---------------------------------- Can you please send me the link, or source, to where PAC beat Bradley by a wide decision.....Last I checked Bradley won a split decision vs PAC, so when did the rematch take place? And don't tell me "we all know PAC really won" cuz that answer is no we don't, the fight was close and PAC didn't do anything overly impressive, coulda went either way but TB got the decision because of his body work in the late rounds. But if you find that rematch of PAC winning a wide UD pls send it to me.......I'll wait!

of course he is scared, i thought the fighter of mannys magnitude can determine who they fight....why cant he just override pimp arum and demand to fight pbf now, may 5th is the date....we'll see what he does, cuz arum already stated no way is floyd in the mix to fight manny...i hope manny grows some balls and override arum............but we will prob see manny fight another top rank stablemate who is paid off to be a punching bag..........

If Manny Pacquiao would of went on twitter claiming he wants Floyd, and then called Floyd a punk, and then the next day go to Fighthype and claim he wants floyd and only floyd.....man these pactards would of had the internet crashing! But since Floyd said he wants Pacquiao and only Pacquiao, then obviously it must be posturing, GTFOH u Pactards......