Yes Arum is Top Rank and when he dies it will shrivel up and float away like a fart In a tornado..
Golden Boy is Oscar DLHs company. I'm saying once Too Rank disappears Golden Boy will play the role against Haymon that Top Rank played against Don King (DKP) when they were the two top dogs.
That's old school stuff though. If you think you can truly be the best, go with Goldenboy. If want to buy your mom a house next year but never get to face the dangerous champions, go with Haymon.
I believe you are very confused mate.
I'm pretty sure that Golden Boy is where you go if you don't want to face the dangerous champions, not the other way around.
Their poster boy is the perfect example. When he had to face prime GGG, he demanded a catchweight and then went down to 154lbs and fought THEE weakest paper champion in Liam Smith, avoiding all the other dangerous fighters in the division.
He fought a small ass Cotto at a catchweight for his Middleweight title.
He fought Amir Khan after, and went up to 164lb catchweight to fight Chavez Jr, one of the weakest willed boxers you'll ever find.
He then fought Rockey Fielding for not even an official belt and dared to call himself a three weight division.
He went up to 175 and fought a weak ass and washed up Kovalev, again the WEAKEST champion at the time in the division.
In between all of this he tried to wait out GGG twice and has that three year spell hiding at Caneloweight.
I really can't believe all of this crap that you just spewed about going to Golden Boy to fight the dangerous fighters.
At PBC, all the top welterweights and champions have fought each other. At junior Middleweight it's the same exact thing, all the top guys have been knocking each other off, and now we're getting Charlo vs Rosario to unify four belts between them.
At Middleweight we got Charlo and Derevyanchenko fighting each other on the same day as Charlo vs Rosario.
We got Spence vs Danny, and we previously had Thurman vs Manny and Spence vs Porter.
We had Wilder face Fury at heavyweight.
Conclusion:
You gotta be either the most biased or the most delusional fella ever.
Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0
Draws
Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0
Catchweights
Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito
Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez
Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0
Times Knocked Out or TKO
Pac 3
May 0
KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54
Opponents Fought 2 or more times
Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera, Morales, Marquez
12 Fights
Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights
Vacant Titles Fought For
Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights
Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights
Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat
Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman
Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo
Olympic Medals
Pacquiao 0
Mayweather 1 (Bronze)
Notable Opponents who were coming off a loss or being KO
Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)
Mayweather: Judah, Corley
Notable Opponents coming off KO/TKO win
Mayweather
Corrales
Canelo
Berto
Madaina
Cotto
Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Baldomir
Gatti
Sosa
Castillo (TKO Juan Macias prior to facing Floyd)
Castillo (KO Verdell Smith prior to rematch)
Pacquiao
Barrera
Hatton
Vargas
Matthysse
Marquez 3
Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents
Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W
Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W
Opponents with 30+ KOs
Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH SM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO
Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO
Career Earnings
Pacquiao 490M
Mayweather 800M
PPVs over 2M
Pacquiao 1
Mayweather
Mayweather 4
ODLH *McGregor Canelo Pacquiao
PPVs Against Similar Opponents
Pac/Cotto 1.25
May/Cotto 1.5
Pac/De La Hoya 1.3M
May/De La Hoya 2.4M
Pac/Mosley 1.3M
May/Mosley 1.4M
Marquez/May 1M
Marquez/Pac 3rd fight 1.3M
Pac/Hatton 850K
May/Hatton 850K
Promoted Fighters Who’ve Won World Titles
May 4
Smith, Jack, Davis, Bey
Pac 0
Obviously, Mayweather and Pacquiao had two great careers. This thread was created to show appreciation and compare the careers of two legends. If there’s anything you see wrong let me know and I’ll edit it. This is not a bait thread. These are all factual numbers.
Impressive. This is wonderful man. Thank you for taking the time.
I think maybe they should fight next Jermell vs Spense
Their trainer already said he would never let them fight against each other.
Jermall has been calling out David Bernavidez lately.
I think Jermall will move up to 168 after he beats Derevyanchenko.
And then Jermell will move up to fill his spot at 160, allowing Spence to move up to 154 after he unifies at 147.
Porter gave us many great wars at 147. At this stage of his career, it could be a little difficult for him to become a 147 champ again. Many fans also felt like he lost to Ugas.
I see no reason why he wouldn`t go to 154. Porter is short, but strong man, his frame is big. he would be like a pitbull there and I can see him beating guys like J Rock, Charlo, Rosado.
It could be easier for him than trying to beat guys like Crawford, Spence, Manny. 147 champs are elite guys.
He'll never beat Charlo. He'd get destroyed, especially after the Harrison fight.
Charlo-Rosario
Charlo-Derevyanchenko
Santa Cruz vs Davis.
To name a few.
Some great fights being lined up. Looking forward to those three in particular.
Amazing fights.
I notice that the haters have disappeared.
I guess they are still thinking up excuses and trying to figure out a way to continue to hate.
Floyd's word not verified. Just like Floyd said he was under 150 in the Marquez fight despite looking 3 weight classes above Marquez.
You guys are too full of hate and biased to reason properly. There is more than enough supporting evidence to Floyd's claims on both the Marquez and Manny fights based solely on his fight night weights of the other fights he had at 147 and 154.
Vs Zab Judah: 146lbs (yes, on fight night)
Vs Baldomir: 149lbs
Vs Ortiz: 150lbs
Vs Maidana 1: 148lbs.
Vs Canelo: 150lbs.
Floyd was weighed on fight night in all of these fights.
He wasn't weighed on fight night against Oscar, but on the one day weigh in his was 149lbs.
He wasn't weighed on fight night against McGregor, but on the one day weigh in he was 149lbs.
He wasn't weighed on fight night against Cotto, but on the one day weigh in he was 151lbs, and even that was that high because he had a bad flu leading up to the fight and had to drink lots of fluids, which is why he weighed higher this normal 148 to 150lbs.
Even when you go as far back as the beginning of his career, to the pretty boy Floyd days, even then Floyd never rehydrated by more than 6lbs.
Seeing as he was 146lbs on the one day weigh in against Marquez, then at most, and I mean at thee most, he would have been about 152lbs, not even a weight class above Marquez who was 148lbs on fight night.
There is absolutely no reason to believe that Floyd didn't in fact weigh 149lbs on fight night against Manny, there is more than enough evidence, over a span of more than ten years, to support this.
Thats Floyd’s word not commission verified lmao. The guy needed an IV to hydrate yet he weight 149? Right....
Actually the commission document showing Floyd's weight was readily available on the net right after the fight and for a while afterwards. It has since mysteriously disappeared. I wish had saved it but then I didn't know someone would go out if their way to delete it. Funny enough images of the Canelo vs Floyd tale of the tape have also been deleted online.
I don't know. The traditional way is to have a rematch or rubber match.
I think people think in 3 fights with Floyd, Pac would win at least 2. The evidence points in that direction.
I think it takes 13 rounds to figure Floyd out that's why Floyd didn't want them. Floyd preferred to be mysterious with unanswered questions and that is what his fans like also. Floyd not giving rematches suits Floyd fans as they can then fantasize nowadays Floyd would win rematch, or fantasize how Floyd would do fighting maidana in arg entina, or nel o in mexico
Floyd gave immediate rematches to his toughest opponents in Castillo and Maidaina, and both times he made easy work of his opponents in the rematch.
It's known in boxing that the better boxer always has the advantage in the rematch.
Case in point Maidana and Castillo rematches, case in point Ward vs Kovalev 2, case in point Ruiz vs Joshua 2, case in point Wilder vs Fury 2.
Mayweather would have made it easier in the rematch. I honestly, to this day, don't know why he didn't just take the immediate rematch instead of fighting Berto.
I remember that initially he said he was game for the rematch and was even looking forward to it.
But then Pac had to go and ruin it with all the excuses then Mayweather said that he refuses to do anything to do with Pac because of those excuses.
Mayweather is being petty yes and letting his ego take over but Pac is equally to blame for the stupid excuses. He knew how volatile Mayweather's personality was he should have just sucked it up and waited for the rematch.
Nah. He's still got work to do to get on people's radar as a possible Canelo opponent.
Yeah, he has to at least match Rocky Fielding or Chavez junior before he can get the Canelo fight.
You can watch mayweather vs pacquiao and May vs McGregor in its entirety in good quality and most of mayweathers fights on youtube but may vs maidana 1 can’t be found at all.
Dazn recently put the fight on their YouTube Channel and people was going crazy in the comments saying how they never could find the fight. Then Dazn took the fight down within 24 hours.
Could it be that the fight was the last fight that floyd had with golden boy and they are having some type of dispute? Or is it that a lot of people thought floyd lost and team mayweather wants to bury it which I doubt because they would have tried to erase may vs Castillo 1 from off the internet then.
I had floyd edging it out but would not be shocked at all if they gave the fight to maidana.
But it just seems odd on how elusive that fight remains to be for years.
I can easily tell you that this is rubbish.
I have the fight on my PC and I downloaded it from YouTube.
Mikey was the top guy at that division, but after Teo smashed Commey, I think that win was far more impressive than anything Mike's done at 135. I thought Commey beat easter, it was a close fight though. Mikey went 12 tough rounds with easter, he won for sure, but it wasn't a walk in the park.
I'd have liked to have seen Mikey vs. Teo though since Mikey does have a chin and isn't gonna fight scared like Loma.
Bruh Mikey vs Easter was a walk in the park.
Also remember Easter changed trainers before the Mikey fight and was fighting a very defensive, survival mode style with Mikey. The one round where he tried to actually fight Mikey he got knocked down and went back on his bike again.
I'd like to see the records of the weights you are quoting for fight night, when it has been notorious news that Mayweather has NEVER, for many years, ever either being weighed on fight night or allowed it to be shown..
This is pure nonsense and made up. Perhaps you got it from Mayweather, a serial liar.
Nototious news? Lol, bruh what you are quoting is the biggest lie ever spread on nsb.
One ignorant fool says something and the rest of the sheep spread it like wild fire.
Are there some fights that he didn't weigh in on the night of the fight?
Yeah, definitely.
Ricky Hatton, Shane Mosley, Maidana 2, Miguel Cotto, and Juan Manuel Marquez. Berto too and Robert Guerrero.
But he did weigh in against Canelo Alvarez, Victor Ortiz, Maidana 1, Zab Judah, and Carlos Baldomir.
All of those weights were 150lbs and below.
Heck the proof is in the ludding bro.
Just look at his one day weigh ins at Junior Middleweight, 149lbs against Oscar, 151lbs against Cotto, 149lbs against McGregor.
Nobody gonna cut extra pounds for the heck of it.
Floyd weighed 149lbs instead of 153 or 154lbs as is the Junior Middleweight limit because he couldn't make the weight, his weight is just too low.
He couldn't even make the 152lbs catchweight with Canelo, in both the one day and the night of the fight weigh in.
Even the 151lbs for Cotto was because Floyd had a bad flu leading up to the fight abd had to drink lots of fluids to prevent flu related dehydration.
And he still only went up to 151lbs.
You can argue against an opiniob, but you can't argue against facts.
Let it go bro, you can't beat the scales. The scales have spoken, lol.
Yep, it was pretty well publicised that Mayweather stopped pre-fight weigh ins. Any boxing fan over the last few years should know this.
Another good post. JMM got an absolute gift in that first fight but it was JMM complaining lol
Really now? Even though he did it against Canelo, Maidana, and Victor Ortiz.
You guys are clowns regurgitating what another foolish clown said on nsb and all the sheep followed.
It's not impossible and it was jmm who said it.So do u think JMM was lying?
Did JMM have a scale?
Lol, obviously he was lying he didn't put Floyd on the scale did he?
And he got washed 12-0.
You don't expect him to come out with some ridiculous excuses?
Smh.
I agree, Floyd states that he had no issues making weight for a decade.
So then why did he need an IV in 2015?
It really does NOT make any sense because he came in on weight just like any other fight for a decade. Even in interviews, they admit to making weight with no problem in that fight in 2015.
Dehydration and weight drain are used interchangeably by fans but they are not the same thing.
You can get dehydration from overtraining, are you aware of that?
Bermaine Stirivirne for example got dehydrated from overtraining for the first Wilder fight.
Floyd introdcued new training regimes and some old ones that he hadn't done in over a decade for the Pac fight
He could have easily overtrained and got dehydrated.
Do you also know that making weight too early can cause dehydration?
You're not supposed to be on weight like for a whole week or two before the fight.
You're supposed to be on weight momentarily, long enough to get weighed and then rehydrate again. There have been cases of fighters being dehydrated because they were on weight for too long.
Finally, ilnesses like fever and flu can cause dehydration. Floyd actually had this issue when he faced Cotto and had to drink lots of liquids in order to prevent dehydration. He ended up coming in at 151lbs on the one day weigh in, his highest ever recorded weight, because of those liquids that he had to drink.
Again, I repeat, weight drain and dehydration, while used interchangeably by casuals and even some analysts, are not exactly the same thing. While you cannot be weight drained without being dehydrated, you can however be dehydrated without being weight drained.
You goddamned clown,this entire thread is about Floyd saying he lost 5-6 lbs overnight between weigh in & morning of the fight(3.5% his TOTAL body weight),& the weights showed on tv are guestimates Because Floyd didn't step on the scales & even if he did him weighing .5 lbs less would be normal if unusual, NoBody has argued otherwise. Its you arguing that Floyd is saying the truth about lost 3.5% his entire body weight in 16 hrs.:fest30:
So you're arguing about something that is trivial and inconsequential?
Who defaq cares what weight he was when he woke up in the morning?
Lol, the only thing that matters is what he weighed on the one day weigh in and on fight night.
Phuck! This thread is even more stupid than I thought, smh.
This literally makes no sense whatsoever,can you please quit with this bs about"never working out,never had to make weight etc." Its not true as I've already stated & mere deflection/misdirection from logic. (I don't see the need to constantly tout my credentials Because its corny & a waste of my time)How can it possibly be water weight as you all claim,Water weight would be what a fighter REHYDRATES after weigh in,not the day before,
Floyd like Canelo had to be below 152 & Floyd came in .5 lbs lighter than Canelo(its normal for a fighter to come in extra lb light for a weigh in esp. a ww moving up(thats why even Canelo came in 1 lb below, Because he didn't want to cut it close & get fined/have fight cancelled & ended up having an extra lb to spare,then he went straight to the buffet)
,but it in no way shape or form is it normal for that ww to lose 5 lbs after weigh in overnight,thats bs to claim a fighters pre weigh in weight is water weight,Floyd is 5'8"(same height as Canelo & he looked Canelos size at the weigh in he was like 95% muscle),I showed you the pics at weigh in & after,Floyd would have had to have lost 3.5% of his total body weight despite being able to eat whatever he wants as often as possible,& despite barely doing any physical activity (between weigh in & the fight a fighter only does the minimum amount to stay fresh & sharp(you should know this if you prepared for as many fights as you imply.)
It seems to me like you are numericallu challenged. Lol.
5lbs?
Where defaq you get that from?
Floyd was 150.5lbs on the one day weigh in and 150.0lbs on fight night.
That is a diffence of 0.5 lbs.
Lol, you can literally lose 0.5 lbs by simply taking a dump in the toilet.
Lol, fool, smh.
I'd rather see Charlo vs Benevides and Plant vs Canelo, winners face off.
Problem is Benevides no longer has a belt so for Charlo beating him does nothing for him in terms of getting Canelo into the ring with him.
If he would stop being obsessed with Canelo and focus on building his own brand legacy he would he a mega star right now, the fool.
Too many ppl take whatever Floyd says as gospel,It suits him to say he beat Canelo while weighing 146,& Floyd calculates everything & makes sure he has every A side advantage in his favor, if Floyd weighed 146 or thereabouts vs Canelo then he made a horrible miscalculation of overconfidence,but we know Floyd didn't because he showed he had more respect for Canelo than any opponent,thats why he made the fight at a CW after saying they don't count before,if Floyd was that worried of Canelo then theres no way in hell hed come in a lb below 150.5(weigh in weight)
Come on ppl,Floyds greatness doesn't depend on trivial things)
You're an idiot.
Fight night weights are not what Floyd "says" you dumb ass.
The network that broadcasts the fight literally has their own scale that they use to weigh the fighters on the night of the fight.
Do you think he's telling the truth here or lying?
The truth.
He was 148lbs on the scales the night of his fight with Maidana, which took place after the Canelo fight.
He was 150lbs on the night of the fight with Canelo.
Two years after his retirement he fought McGregor at junior middleweight and only came in weighing 149lbs on the one day weigh in.
Even going far back to when he fought Victor Ortiz in 2011/2010 he was 150lbs on the scales on the night of the fight.
Floyd is not big dude.
Or at least let me say he is not heavy, because trust me I know that there are big, jacked dudes who weigh very little compared to what they look like, my little brother is one of those dudes.
In fact most sprinters weigh way way less than what they look like. Check out the weights of Maurice Green, Asafa Powell, and those dudes and see if the weight doesn't make you think "wait a minute"
Floyd didn't use their scales in most his last fights dumbass,in which case the network asks the fighter to state their weight or they create their own guestimate,& this thread is about the LIE that Floyd weighed 5 lbs less the morning after weigh in,ergo him weighing .5 lbs less on fight night PROVES he Lied about losing 6 lbs the next morning after weigh in, that'd make it even more impossible Because wed have to believe he lost 5 lbs then gained it back all in the span of 24 hrs,DUMBASS
This is thee most blatant lie ever!!!!.
The networks NEVER report guestimates what defaq?
They ALWAYS say for example "he weighed in at 148lbs on Showtime scales or HBO scales."
When you refuse to be weighed, they report that you didn't allow yourself to be weighed.
Bruh, nobody can lie as much as you do without having a pathological problem.
You need help.
You're a pathological liar.
I think the Charlo's both beat him imo, he's more likely to beat Canelo style wise, but Canelo smokes both Charlo's, styles make fights
I actually think you live in opposite world.
Its Jermall who eould struggle and probably lose to Andrade. Jermall's southpaw game is trash, just look at the Trout and Koborov fights.
Jermall on the other hand is dynamite against orthodox stance fighters. Its the reason he had such an easy time with Derevyanchenko and Julian Jrock Williams but such a hard time with Trout and Koborov. I kept telling everyone here that that refering to the fight with Koborov to argue that Derevyanchenko would beat Charlo that Charlo would have an easy time with Derevyanchenko because he aint southpaw like Koborov but no one would listen.
Charlo would actually have a much much easier time with Canelo than Andrade, and conversely, I think Andrade is also a nightmare for Canelo.
Has Canelo even fought a slick southpaw of that level since he struggled and arguably lost to Erislandy Lara?
I don't think he has. Andrade is a stylistic nightmare for both guys. They are both avoiding him for a reason.
They DO report guestimates you clown,they do it all the time,& get off Floyds sac long enough to stop deflecting,this thread has nothing to do with anything other than the COMMON SENSE that Floyd LIED about losing 5 lbs between weigh in & the fight,if the network weight was accurate (which I didn't even refute) it PROVES that its impossible for Floyd to have lost 5 lbs, Because he'd then have to have also gained back 5 lbs all within hrs. Get a clue
Common sense? Lol, you and common sense don't belong in the same sentence.
Clearly common sense is not common to you, you depraved pathological liar.
Guestimates on the tale of the tape? Lol, can't make this shieet up. You're as dumb as a sack of bricks.
Damn bruh! You funna give up like that! Lol.
You talking about “smoke” and you can’t even handle my smoke. And Still!! Take your L like a boss
Defaq? Lol, you Canelo dickriders are all delusional, smh!
Lol. Stopped reading here. Let me school you on basic evaluation.
First of all, the BOXING WORLD, industry, had emphatically discussed splits for Canelo GGG. You’d only be a casual if you think K2 would simply accept a deal before the Khan fight.
There was never a problem for Canelo vs GGG after Khan. The problem was that the WBC IMPOSED a purse bid warning a week after the Khan fight. Lol. GBP had 3 weeks to agree to an offer, which, only elite posters here know, that K2 played hardball. Oscar was on record to say that GGG would receive an 8 digit offer regardless. How does a promoter assess that?
1.) Cotto Canelo 900k PPv
2.) Khan Canelo 600k PPv
You can’t fault GBP for sticking to their ground for a flat fee. GGG only did 97K with Lemieux, and with Jacobs 150K. Those are GGG’s only PPV metrics for split evaluation. Canelo has done way more throughout his career.
But of course, fans like you don’t understand evaluation and get caught with forum drama and misinformation... because it’s interesting to create fictional theory as to why the fight didn’t happen opposed to accepting the truth. The forum already had a huge discussion if GGG should’ve taken a flat fee + percentages.
The only thing fans on the forum said was “GGG holds all the belts” therefore he should’ve had a higher pay. That’s the only damn reason for the hold up. Cotto and GGG know all about step asides. GGG took a step aside from Cotto for the Geale fight. GGG took a nice check for stepping aside for the Khan fight but his mgmt - The Herman Bros + Loeffler - whom are all in legal battles now, have fans like you believing that they didn’t make negotiations difficult for GBP? Lol
This is a cakewalk for me man. You probably also forgot two major politics outside of the negotiations that made GBP and Canelo harder to decide:
1.) Canelo was in a $8mil litigation battle with All Star boxing when news came out of the WBC imposing a ridiculous time to make an agreement for the split, hence purse bid. YOU DO NOT GO TO PURSE BID WITH GBP!
2.) Canelo and the WBC / Sulaiman had been beefing for a while, and the post Khan All Star litigation battle made it worse.
These are all common sense, chronological reasons as to why Canelo said FU to the WBC imposing a purse bid with K2. And again, the same reason, why Floyd said FU to the WBO. Floyd even had 59 days to make a decision in keeping a belt whereas Canelo had less than a month.
Sorry I had to bury your theory but it’s not logical or realistic. The fact that you brought up “PEDS” and delay... lol.. such subtext you could’ve just started with.
Furthermore, casuals like yourself don’t even realize that Canelo’s levels for Clen are now acceptable under WADA because the threshold is 2ng. But don’t worry! Margaret Goodman already knew about that! The problem is that she can’t take sides with K2 because that would be a conflict of interest. Instead, VADA decided to keep quiet while their partner in crime (WBC) made decisions to penalize a super star who didn’t commit to an unreasonable purse bid and timely manner... why?!? Because without Canelo no sanctioning fee! When Canelo, like Floyd, said FU, guess what the WBC-CBP decided to do.
Ever wonder why Sulaiman acted naive to defend Canelo? He knew all along and acted the fool to defend Canelo so that Canelo’s team could see how Mauricio acted.
Mauricio knew what he did was wrong. Years later he creates the Franchise to still try and gain Canelo’s trust. It’s all politics
This is all rubbish! All of it!!!
Defaq do Lawsuits have to do with anything?
Mayweather was behind bars when he negotiated and signed to fight Guerrero. Let that sink in.
Canelo was not given a short time to negotiate. It was more than a year since he fought Cotto.
That was more than enough time to make the fight.
What, you think all that time doesn't count?
And Canelo was making diva demands to fight at catchweight of 155lbs.
Bare in mind, he actually complained about the 155lbs catchweight when he fought Cotto and tried to get it up to 156lbs, then he turns around and asks for 155lbs again when he has to face GGG.
Only someone who literally drinks Canelo's juice would believe any of that crap you just spewed. That he even asked for a tune up first after previously agreeing to fight GGG right away and that he cherry picked Amir Khan of all people should tell you all you need to know.
Canelo didn't want that smoke.
1) Reneged on his agreement to fight GGG right away.
2) Asked for a tune up and cherry picked Khan
3) Asked for ridiculous catchweight of 155lbs
4) Dropped his belt.
All clear signs of someone who didn't want the smoke.
Those who've been on here for long enough will know I've always been critical of Crawford, I've never seen him as a P4P type of fighter, simply because he has never proven himself against top level guys.
I'm not denying that Crawford is a skilled fighter, but how much longer is he going to get 'eye test points' instead of actually proving himself against real top dogs, like previous and current P4P fighters have?
There are multiple guys with less than 20 fights who have better resumes and have accomplished more than Crawford, yet they get little recognition.
This 'nobody wants to fight him' narrative is boring and only casuals run with that BS, like when it was happening with Golovkin who was constantly shat on. Fighters will fight ANYONE if you put up the money and that's facts. So lets stop blaming other fighters and start looking and Crawford and his team for simply not attempting to get big fights for him.
There is no fighter with less than 20 fights who has more accomplishments than Crawford GTFOH!
In fact there is no active fighter besides Manny with more accomplishments than Crawford.
Unified champion at 135
Undisputed champion at 140.
Champion at 147 and he beat the man who beat the man too.
No one has accomplished more than that that isn't named Manny Pacquiao.
People criticise his resume but those guys he beat at 140 were undefeated or unified champions at the time.
Nobody was calling those fights cherry picks when they happened.
It's like when people try to sell Trout short as an opponent, people forget that when Canelo beat him he was undefeated and had just beaten and schooled the man at 154 at the time.
Crawford has accomplished more than your favorite guy if your favorite guy ain't Manny.
Nah. Mayweather ducked Bradley remember? From May 5 to July 3, about 59 days, Floyd hadn’t paid the sanctioning fee and had the choice to keep it since he never had plans to defend the 154 belts since 2013!
Meanwhile you same phagg0ts cry that Canelo ducked GGG because the WEEK after he beat Khan, they automatically order a purse bid, not NO 59 days... lol
It’s fun playing your Gaymonite Games Ltd.
Bro I ain't gonna let you get away with those blatant lies.
First of all, Canelo wasn't supposed to fight Khan anyway, the original deal was that they wbc would allow him to fight Cotto for the wbc crown on the grounds that he IMMEDIATELY defend the title against GGG afterwards.
That was the original condition.
Canelo reneged on that agreement by asking for a Khan tune up because of course he never intended to defend against GGG until GGG was older.
The wbc said okay we will give you leeway and let you take this voluntary cherry pick but you gotta fight GGG as promised afterwards.
The wbc were entitled and correct to order the purse bid because Canelo was once again trying to weasle his way out of fighting GGG.
Also the purse bid would have guaranteed him 75 percent of the split as per the wbc rules so there was no reason to complain or throw the belt in the bin.
Canelo was not the victim here, he was the villain.
He has tried to wait out GGG EVERY single time they had to fight, he even took peds for GGG.
You can't get away with this bs. We all know what happens son.
As for the Mayweather ducked Bradley nonsense, that's a terrible joke. Bow out while you still have some dignity left, albeit a very small amount.
I'll have you know that in that same video I told you to watch, Bradley's excuse for ducking Spence when he was his mandatory is "everybody knows that top rank to work with Al Haymon and PBC"
Yes, straight from Bradley's mouth.
So how was Floyd ducking Bradley if Bradley himself says that top rank don't work with PBC?"
Also, why would he duck Bradley, who lost to Pacquiao twice at that point, right after schooling Pac? Are you listening to yourself?
Now to adress the lie about Floyd defending his 154lbs belts, first of all, why don't you tell us where you got the idea that Floyd never intended to defend those titles other than the fact that you sucked it out of yo azz?
Last time I checked, he took those belts from Canelo in September 2013.
Then in May 2014 he he unfied the wba and WBC at welterweight with Maidana.
Haters tried to say he lost to Maidana so he had to rematch Maidana in September 2014, and then unified again with Pac in 2015.
When would he have had a chance to defend those belts?
I would understand if you said he ducked Brook.
Personally I thought his last fight should have been against Brook to unify all the titles and become undisputed champion.
But based on his performance against Berto, he honestly looked washed up at that point. It is just as well that he retired.
The PBC boys always knew, per advisory and history, that Haymon didn’t like the WBO nor was interested. Therefore, the PBC gang knew that Arum would venture to the WBO as Warren would. So OF COURSE PBC fighters trolled for Crawford to get the WBO. PBC guys didn’t care for it, not so much Crawford
Floyd vacated the WBO after PAC to avoid Bradley....
Did you really just go and say something stupid line Floyd avoided Bradley?
The WBO rules state that you can't hold titles in more than one division while holding the WBO.
They therefore asked Floyd to drop his junior middleweight belts in order to keep the WBO.
That's why Floyd dropped the belt.
Floyd avoiding Bradley?
Lol, what a joke!
Why don't you ask Bradley why he avoided Spence when Spence was his mandatory, better yet, go watch the video on YouTube where they ask Bradley about it and he starts stuttering and gets emotional.
Why can’t they beat Andrade? What makes him so hard to beat? How do we know Andrade can take a bomb like the ones Derev was taking
We don't know it he can take q bomb like Derevyanchenko, but we do know its much harder to land that kind of bomb on Andrade