When boxers say they've signed with Al Haymon, what do they mean exactly? Are they saying they've brought him on under the ambiguous "advisor" role?
Which makes me ask another questions, if Haymon is only advisor, who is the Promoter and Manager? I realized, I don't know who "promotes" fighters such as Thurman, Leo Santa Cruz, Broner, etc. Can someone please clarify? Is he all 3? Meaning advisor, promoter and manager?
Is it true that Al Haymon is known for paying his fighters very well? So many fighters want to sign with him. He must pay them good?
Thanks.
Haymon has given Pantera Nery more exposure to the American audience by putting him on big fight cards so he's ok in my book. Nery will soon take over 122.
There's a reason fighters name their kids after Al Haymon and praise him like he's Jesus Christ.
He gets you paid and doesn't take all your money.
He's an advisor, so he takes a small percentage.
There's a reason you see fighters constantly fighting with Oscar & Arum, but not with Haymon
I believe you are very confused mate.
I'm pretty sure that Golden Boy is where you go if you don't want to face the dangerous champions, not the other way around.
Their poster boy is the perfect example. When he had to face prime GGG, he demanded a catchweight and then went down to 154lbs and fought THEE weakest paper champion in Liam Smith, avoiding all the other dangerous fighters in the division.
He fought a small ass Cotto at a catchweight for his Middleweight title.
He fought Amir Khan after, and went up to 164lb catchweight to fight Chavez Jr, one of the weakest willed boxers you'll ever find.
He then fought Rockey Fielding for not even an official belt and dared to call himself a three weight division.
He went up to 175 and fought a weak ass and washed up Kovalev, again the WEAKEST champion at the time in the division.
In between all of this he tried to wait out GGG twice and has that three year spell hiding at Caneloweight.
I really can't believe all of this crap that you just spewed about going to Golden Boy to fight the dangerous fighters.
At PBC, all the top welterweights and champions have fought each other. At junior Middleweight it's the same exact thing, all the top guys have been knocking each other off, and now we're getting Charlo vs Rosario to unify four belts between them.
At Middleweight we got Charlo and Derevyanchenko fighting each other on the same day as Charlo vs Rosario.
We got Spence vs Danny, and we previously had Thurman vs Manny and Spence vs Porter.
We had Wilder face Fury at heavyweight.
Conclusion:
You gotta be either the most biased or the most delusional fella ever.
Shit for brains.
Yes Arum is Top Rank and when he dies it will shrivel up and float away like a fart In a tornado..
Golden Boy is Oscar DLHs company. I'm saying once Too Rank disappears Golden Boy will play the role against Haymon that Top Rank played against Don King (DKP) when they were the two top dogs.
That's old school stuff though. If you think you can truly be the best, go with Goldenboy. If want to buy your mom a house next year but never get to face the dangerous champions, go with Haymon.
I believe you are very confused mate.
I'm pretty sure that Golden Boy is where you go if you don't want to face the dangerous champions, not the other way around.
Their poster boy is the perfect example. When he had to face prime GGG, he demanded a catchweight and then went down to 154lbs and fought THEE weakest paper champion in Liam Smith, avoiding all the other dangerous fighters in the division.
He fought a small ass Cotto at a catchweight for his Middleweight title.
He fought Amir Khan after, and went up to 164lb catchweight to fight Chavez Jr, one of the weakest willed boxers you'll ever find.
He then fought Rockey Fielding for not even an official belt and dared to call himself a three weight division.
He went up to 175 and fought a weak ass and washed up Kovalev, again the WEAKEST champion at the time in the division.
In between all of this he tried to wait out GGG twice and has that three year spell hiding at Caneloweight.
I really can't believe all of this crap that you just spewed about going to Golden Boy to fight the dangerous fighters.
At PBC, all the top welterweights and champions have fought each other. At junior Middleweight it's the same exact thing, all the top guys have been knocking each other off, and now we're getting Charlo vs Rosario to unify four belts between them.
At Middleweight we got Charlo and Derevyanchenko fighting each other on the same day as Charlo vs Rosario.
We got Spence vs Danny, and we previously had Thurman vs Manny and Spence vs Porter.
We had Wilder face Fury at heavyweight.
Conclusion:
You gotta be either the most biased or the most delusional fella ever.
you dont need a promoter if you’re already developed.
haymon takes a low fee as adviser or manager. when you add that, plus no promoter taking 30%, the fighters make significantly more
You keep mentioning Golden Boy but then you mentioned Arum in your OP. Do you mean TR?
Yes Arum is Top Rank and when he dies it will shrivel up and float away like a fart In a tornado..
Golden Boy is Oscar DLHs company. I'm saying once Too Rank disappears Golden Boy will play the role against Haymon that Top Rank played against Don King (DKP) when they were the two top dogs.
That's old school stuff though. If you think you can truly be the best, go with Goldenboy. If want to buy your mom a house next year but never get to face the dangerous champions, go with Haymon.
1.Golden Boy
2. Haymon
Beyond them, no more than 3 fights with anyone else.
You keep mentioning Golden Boy but then you mentioned Arum in your OP. Do you mean TR?
Thanks. If you were a young fighter who was turning pro who would you sign with? Just a scenario.
1.Golden Boy
2. Haymon
Beyond them, no more than 3 fights with anyone else. But I'd be happy to look at any offers you have and tell you what I think.
Thanks. If you were a young fighter who was turning pro who would you sign with? Just a scenario.
Split T Management seem to be the growing force these days
Haymon runs his boxing empire much like the Mob ran Las Vegas. He keeps his official title one that avoids conflicts of interest and he keeps his face hidden from public. He is a true Godfather.
He overpays his fighters because he uses slush funds from "investors" that are really just laundering money. Same with the way he runs the PBC broadcasts. He doesn't have to care about profits for now. He's just cornering the market. The original source of these funds? Who knows.
When you "sign" with Haymon what you're signing is more of a general management contract which stipulates that your entire management team will be supplied to you, and anyone you bring with you becomes YOUR employee and has no ties to Haymon.
I can tell you from experience that the Haymon "contract" comes with an avalanche of air tight Non-disclosures and non-competes. It's pretty much a you'll never work in this town again type of thing...except NOTHING ties directly to Haymon.
The reason fighters want to go with him is because they either have no other option or they're seduced by the quick cash and easy fights.
Arum won't live more than a few more years, then it will be PBC and Golden Boy. They are the future Don King (Haymon) and Bob Arum (GBP) The difference being Don King worked like a street thug, Haymon works like a mafia Don. Eddie Hearn will continue to serve as a wet nurse for both sides.
Thanks. If you were a young fighter who was turning pro who would you sign with? Just a scenario.
Haymon runs his boxing empire much like the Mob ran Las Vegas. He keeps his official title one that avoids conflicts of interest and he keeps his face hidden from public. He is a true Godfather.
He overpays his fighters because he uses slush funds from "investors" that are really just laundering money. Same with the way he runs the PBC broadcasts. He doesn't have to care about profits for now. He's just cornering the market. The original source of these funds? Who knows.
When you "sign" with Haymon what you're signing is more of a general management contract which stipulates that your entire management team will be supplied to you, and anyone you bring with you becomes YOUR employee and has no ties to Haymon.
I can tell you from experience that the Haymon "contract" comes with an avalanche of air tight Non-disclosures and non-competes. It's pretty much a you'll never work in this town again type of thing...except NOTHING ties directly to Haymon.
The reason fighters want to go with him is because they either have no other option or they're seduced by the quick cash and easy fights.
Arum won't live more than a few more years, then it will be PBC and Golden Boy. They are the future Don King (Haymon) and Bob Arum (GBP) The difference being Don King worked like a street thug, Haymon works like a mafia Don. Eddie Hearn will continue to serve as a wet nurse for both sides.