They said we will fight him if he gets a belt. Well after he beat horn the excuses continued. Why didn't they fight him? I thought they said get a belt first? I'm embarrassed to live in this ww era of duckers.
Damn bruh! You funna give up like that! Lol.
You talking about “smoke” and you can’t even handle my smoke. And Still!! Take your L like a boss
Defaq? Lol, you Canelo dickriders are all delusional, smh!
Lol. Stopped reading here. Let me school you on basic evaluation.
First of all, the BOXING WORLD, industry, had emphatically discussed splits for Canelo GGG. You’d only be a casual if you think K2 would simply accept a deal before the Khan fight.
There was never a problem for Canelo vs GGG after Khan. The problem was that the WBC IMPOSED a purse bid warning a week after the Khan fight. Lol. GBP had 3 weeks to agree to an offer, which, only elite posters here know, that K2 played hardball. Oscar was on record to say that GGG would receive an 8 digit offer regardless. How does a promoter assess that?
1.) Cotto Canelo 900k PPv
2.) Khan Canelo 600k PPv
You can’t fault GBP for sticking to their ground for a flat fee. GGG only did 97K with Lemieux, and with Jacobs 150K. Those are GGG’s only PPV metrics for split evaluation. Canelo has done way more throughout his career.
But of course, fans like you don’t understand evaluation and get caught with forum drama and misinformation... because it’s interesting to create fictional theory as to why the fight didn’t happen opposed to accepting the truth. The forum already had a huge discussion if GGG should’ve taken a flat fee + percentages.
The only thing fans on the forum said was “GGG holds all the belts” therefore he should’ve had a higher pay. That’s the only damn reason for the hold up. Cotto and GGG know all about step asides. GGG took a step aside from Cotto for the Geale fight. GGG took a nice check for stepping aside for the Khan fight but his mgmt - The Herman Bros + Loeffler - whom are all in legal battles now, have fans like you believing that they didn’t make negotiations difficult for GBP? Lol
This is a cakewalk for me man. You probably also forgot two major politics outside of the negotiations that made GBP and Canelo harder to decide:
1.) Canelo was in a $8mil litigation battle with All Star boxing when news came out of the WBC imposing a ridiculous time to make an agreement for the split, hence purse bid. YOU DO NOT GO TO PURSE BID WITH GBP!
2.) Canelo and the WBC / Sulaiman had been beefing for a while, and the post Khan All Star litigation battle made it worse.
These are all common sense, chronological reasons as to why Canelo said FU to the WBC imposing a purse bid with K2. And again, the same reason, why Floyd said FU to the WBO. Floyd even had 59 days to make a decision in keeping a belt whereas Canelo had less than a month.
Sorry I had to bury your theory but it’s not logical or realistic. The fact that you brought up “PEDS” and delay... lol.. such subtext you could’ve just started with.
Furthermore, casuals like yourself don’t even realize that Canelo’s levels for Clen are now acceptable under WADA because the threshold is 2ng. But don’t worry! Margaret Goodman already knew about that! The problem is that she can’t take sides with K2 because that would be a conflict of interest. Instead, VADA decided to keep quiet while their partner in crime (WBC) made decisions to penalize a super star who didn’t commit to an unreasonable purse bid and timely manner... why?!? Because without Canelo no sanctioning fee! When Canelo, like Floyd, said FU, guess what the WBC-CBP decided to do.
Ever wonder why Sulaiman acted naive to defend Canelo? He knew all along and acted the fool to defend Canelo so that Canelo’s team could see how Mauricio acted.
Mauricio knew what he did was wrong. Years later he creates the Franchise to still try and gain Canelo’s trust. It’s all politics
This is all rubbish! All of it!!!
Defaq do Lawsuits have to do with anything?
Mayweather was behind bars when he negotiated and signed to fight Guerrero. Let that sink in.
Canelo was not given a short time to negotiate. It was more than a year since he fought Cotto.
That was more than enough time to make the fight.
What, you think all that time doesn't count?
And Canelo was making diva demands to fight at catchweight of 155lbs.
Bare in mind, he actually complained about the 155lbs catchweight when he fought Cotto and tried to get it up to 156lbs, then he turns around and asks for 155lbs again when he has to face GGG.
Only someone who literally drinks Canelo's juice would believe any of that crap you just spewed. That he even asked for a tune up first after previously agreeing to fight GGG right away and that he cherry picked Amir Khan of all people should tell you all you need to know.
Canelo didn't want that smoke.
1) Reneged on his agreement to fight GGG right away.
2) Asked for a tune up and cherry picked Khan
3) Asked for ridiculous catchweight of 155lbs
4) Dropped his belt.
All clear signs of someone who didn't want the smoke.
they are slaves to al gaymon they have no say in they fight!
He does put up the money. Do you guys forget how boxing works when it fits your agenda? Hearn, Arum, and Haymon they all do the same ****. Are you going to put your multi million dollar business into the hands of some boxer? None of us like it but it’s the sport we all chose to love.
Nah. Mayweather ducked Bradley remember? From May 5 to July 3, about 59 days, Floyd hadn’t paid the sanctioning fee and had the choice to keep it since he never had plans to defend the 154 belts since 2013!
Meanwhile you same phagg0ts cry that Canelo ducked GGG because the WEEK after he beat Khan, they automatically order a purse bid, not NO 59 days... lol
It’s fun playing your Gaymonite Games Ltd.
Bro I ain't gonna let you get away with those blatant lies.
First of all, Canelo wasn't supposed to fight Khan anyway, the original deal was that they wbc would allow him to fight Cotto for the wbc crown on the grounds that he IMMEDIATELY defend the title against GGG afterwards.
That was the original condition.
Canelo reneged on that agreement by asking for a Khan tune up because of course he never intended to defend against GGG until GGG was older.
The wbc said okay we will give you leeway and let you take this voluntary cherry pick but you gotta fight GGG as promised afterwards.
The wbc were entitled and correct to order the purse bid because Canelo was once again trying to weasle his way out of fighting GGG.
Also the purse bid would have guaranteed him 75 percent of the split as per the wbc rules so there was no reason to complain or throw the belt in the bin.
Canelo was not the victim here, he was the villain.
He has tried to wait out GGG EVERY single time they had to fight, he even took peds for GGG.
You can't get away with this bs. We all know what happens son.
As for the Mayweather ducked Bradley nonsense, that's a terrible joke. Bow out while you still have some dignity left, albeit a very small amount.
I'll have you know that in that same video I told you to watch, Bradley's excuse for ducking Spence when he was his mandatory is "everybody knows that top rank to work with Al Haymon and PBC"
Yes, straight from Bradley's mouth.
So how was Floyd ducking Bradley if Bradley himself says that top rank don't work with PBC?"
Also, why would he duck Bradley, who lost to Pacquiao twice at that point, right after schooling Pac? Are you listening to yourself?
Now to adress the lie about Floyd defending his 154lbs belts, first of all, why don't you tell us where you got the idea that Floyd never intended to defend those titles other than the fact that you sucked it out of yo azz?
Last time I checked, he took those belts from Canelo in September 2013.
Then in May 2014 he he unfied the wba and WBC at welterweight with Maidana.
Haters tried to say he lost to Maidana so he had to rematch Maidana in September 2014, and then unified again with Pac in 2015.
When would he have had a chance to defend those belts?
I would understand if you said he ducked Brook.
Personally I thought his last fight should have been against Brook to unify all the titles and become undisputed champion.
But based on his performance against Berto, he honestly looked washed up at that point. It is just as well that he retired.
I specifically said that Haymon doesn’t fck with the WBO. That’s the same way as saying Floyd would avoid any rule or mandate by the WBo you dummy! Therefore he avoided Bradley. And stop entertaining the idea of that the reason why Floyd dropped the WBo.. as if he had been defending 154 belts against 154 fighters.
Stop lying. Floyd didn't avoid Bradley. Floyd didn't drop the WBO. The WBO stripped Floyd. Everybody was trashing the WBO at the time because of it.
The PBC boys always knew, per advisory and history, that Haymon didn’t like the WBO nor was interested. Therefore, the PBC gang knew that Arum would venture to the WBO as Warren would. So OF COURSE PBC fighters trolled for Crawford to get the WBO. PBC guys didn’t care for it, not so much Crawford
Floyd vacated the WBO after PAC to avoid Bradley....
Did you really just go and say something stupid line Floyd avoided Bradley?
The WBO rules state that you can't hold titles in more than one division while holding the WBO.
They therefore asked Floyd to drop his junior middleweight belts in order to keep the WBO.
That's why Floyd dropped the belt.
Floyd avoiding Bradley?
Lol, what a joke!
Why don't you ask Bradley why he avoided Spence when Spence was his mandatory, better yet, go watch the video on YouTube where they ask Bradley about it and he starts stuttering and gets emotional.
Thurman just called out Crawford.
what do call outs mean? nothing. floyd called out winky wright. so? did he fight him? no. he wasted everyones time by making his promoter negotiate the fight, even putting it a re-hydration clause which he didn't think winky would ever accept, and then when he accepted all his silly demands floyd just changed the money like he normally does to kill fights. all this because he wanted to sound tough in the public eye but his roadblocks were all taken out cept the money. thats a last resort to killing a fight. ill fight you for 50-50! if you do this this and this...oh sh-it he did it NO MORE 50-50! Typical bit-ch azz behavior