Floyd didn't do same day weigh in for Pacquiao either, but he claimed he weighed himself in the locker room before the fight, and he was a few pounds lighter than Pacquiao on fight night.
An athlete who drinks too much water after training runs a serious risk.
Right. I remember when there was a couple football practice related deaths from heat stroke and lack of hydration that were on the news. One NFL player also. So they big thing was for everyone to stay hydrated. But then I think I remember reading an article where a coach overcompensated and was making sure he’s players drank copious amounts of water. He even had a buddy system where they looked out for each others water intake. He had charts above the urinals showing the different colours of urine depending on the level of hydration. But like a lot of things it become almost a completion or something. I think he got fired. This all just me trying to remember, and I may remember it wrong, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to find if someone was interested in looking it up.
One of those mysteries which may never be solved.
Of the two possible explanations, they really ought to go with the severely dehydrated explanation though. The, he was trying to dilute whatever PED he may have taken, explanation seems much worse.
Indeed. Not sure why his fanboys seem to get something out of insisting he never had to make weight like every other fighter out there...like it’s some type of badge of honour.
Well Floyd was so severely dehydrated by making weight for the pac fight that it was a medical emergency and he needed an IV. Yet his fan boys say he never weighed more than 150.
One of those mysteries which may never be solved.
Of the two possible explanations, they really ought to go with the severely dehydrated explanation though. The, he was trying to dilute whatever PED he may have taken, explanation seems much worse.
Well Floyd was so severely dehydrated by making weight for the pac fight that it was a medical emergency and he needed an IV. Yet his fan boys say he never weighed more than 150.
I've posted on here a long time, from student to now doctor. You don't have to believe it, it's fine.
What you have to believe in is the biological truths of the human body, not some bull**** your spouting here, which is, "a healthy human being, who happens to be a top level professional athlete can lose 6lbs over night"
You realise no one will take you seriously. Actually, walk into a clinic and tell a doctor this theory.
Stop lying and trolling.
You are the most unprofessional doctor i’ve come across. But then again, you’re not a doctor.
1) What Bermane Stiverne had was NOT what Floyd Mayweather claimed to have.
- Stiverne was diagnosed AFTER his fight not BEFORE!
- Stiverne had muscle damage and blood in his urine. Floyd NEVER said he had that!
- Stiverne had Rhabdomyolysis which is basically muscle damage where its fibers are released into the blood stream.
- Stiverne even after the fact didn't have a clue what was up. That is, they still had to figure it out.
- Stiverne is a HW who has a relatively bigger muscle mass. So the amount of broken down muscle fibers can be at a higher rate.
- Stiverne went to the hospital and stayed there for a few days. Floyd did NOT!
2) Floyd said that his issue was JUST dehydration.
Dehydration is loss of fluids/electrolytes.
What is the issue with that?
- Floyd came in at 146 like he has been doing for a decade. Problem is that Floyd didn't lose anywhere close to 10% of his body weight!!!
"Deciding how much IV fluid to give:
"If possible, patients with severe dehydration should be weighed so that their fluid requirements can be determined accurately.
The fluid deficit in severe dehydration equals about 10% of body weight (i.e., 100 ml/kg)."
- We all witnessed Floyd drinking a lot of fluids at the weigh-in. So he CANNOT say that he was severelly dehydrated!!!
3) At the weigh-in, Floyd was examined by the NSAC physician who did not note any issues nor did Floyd let him the physician know about any issues. Floyd's vital signs were NORMAL. On Floyd's prefight physical health form he did not state of any issues.
4) Alex Ariza was hired. He helped Floyd with his eating, fluid intake and monitored that. As stated, Floyd was drinking like a fish at the weigh-in. So to bring up dehydration issues, well, that is a weak excuse!
5) There were plenty of interviews days before the fight. Floyd said that his heavy training is over. He would be relaxing, watching basketball, watching some movies and as far as exercise, just easy going ....
6) The head of the WADA TUE Committee and physician was interviewed and said "It doesn't smell right to me" and "Its a red flag." Only would have made sense if he was rushed to the hospital and the fight would basically had to be postponed!!!
7) Less than 24 hours before the Manny fight, Floyd said that he is HAPPY and not like others who drained themselves .... Just remember, he had just been given an IV!!! :lol1:
""I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao."
Man theres no point in providing facts to these racists
Really now? Even though he did it against Canelo, Maidana, and Victor Ortiz.
You guys are clowns regurgitating what another foolish clown said on nsb and all the sheep followed.
He did what?
HBO and Showtime were not allowed to weigh Mayboy, which i think started around his comeback in 2009. There was the odd occasion when he himself released what he supposedly weighed, which is very different to, for example, Canelo weighing himself in front of TV officials.
Dehydration and weight drain are used interchangeably by fans but they are not the same thing.
You can get dehydration from overtraining, are you aware of that?
Bermaine Stirivirne for example got dehydrated from overtraining for the first Wilder fight.
Floyd introdcued new training regimes and some old ones that he hadn't done in over a decade for the Pac fight
He could have easily overtrained and got dehydrated.
Do you also know that making weight too early can cause dehydration?
You're not supposed to be on weight like for a whole week or two before the fight.
You're supposed to be on weight momentarily, long enough to get weighed and then rehydrate again. There have been cases of fighters being dehydrated because they were on weight for too long.
Finally, ilnesses like fever and flu can cause dehydration. Floyd actually had this issue when he faced Cotto and had to drink lots of liquids in order to prevent dehydration. He ended up coming in at 151lbs on the one day weigh in, his highest ever recorded weight, because of those liquids that he had to drink.
Again, I repeat, weight drain and dehydration, while used interchangeably by casuals and even some analysts, are not exactly the same thing. While you cannot be weight drained without being dehydrated, you can however be dehydrated without being weight drained.
1) What Bermane Stiverne had was NOT what Floyd Mayweather claimed to have.
- Stiverne was diagnosed AFTER his fight not BEFORE!
- Stiverne had muscle damage and blood in his urine. Floyd NEVER said he had that!
- Stiverne had Rhabdomyolysis which is basically muscle damage where its fibers are released into the blood stream.
- Stiverne even after the fact didn't have a clue what was up. That is, they still had to figure it out.
- Stiverne is a HW who has a relatively bigger muscle mass. So the amount of broken down muscle fibers can be at a higher rate.
- Stiverne went to the hospital and stayed there for a few days. Floyd did NOT!
2) Floyd said that his issue was JUST dehydration.
Dehydration is loss of fluids/electrolytes.
What is the issue with that?
- Floyd came in at 146 like he has been doing for a decade. Problem is that Floyd didn't lose anywhere close to 10% of his body weight!!!
"Deciding how much IV fluid to give:
"If possible, patients with severe dehydration should be weighed so that their fluid requirements can be determined accurately.
The fluid deficit in severe dehydration equals about 10% of body weight (i.e., 100 ml/kg)."
- We all witnessed Floyd drinking a lot of fluids at the weigh-in. So he CANNOT say that he was severelly dehydrated!!!
3) At the weigh-in, Floyd was examined by the NSAC physician who did not note any issues nor did Floyd let him the physician know about any issues. Floyd's vital signs were NORMAL. On Floyd's prefight physical health form he did not state of any issues.
4) Alex Ariza was hired. He helped Floyd with his eating, fluid intake and monitored that. As stated, Floyd was drinking like a fish at the weigh-in. So to bring up dehydration issues, well, that is a weak excuse!
5) There were plenty of interviews days before the fight. Floyd said that his heavy training is over. He would be relaxing, watching basketball, watching some movies and as far as exercise, just easy going ....
6) The head of the WADA TUE Committee and physician was interviewed and said "It doesn't smell right to me" and "Its a red flag." Only would have made sense if he was rushed to the hospital and the fight would basically had to be postponed!!!
7) Less than 24 hours before the Manny fight, Floyd said that he is HAPPY and not like others who drained themselves .... Just remember, he had just been given an IV!!! :lol1:
""I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao."
Do you know what a litre of water weighs? 1kg, 2.2lbs. Put that into perspective. You can drink two litres of anything in a minute or two. That’s 4.4lbs. I’m not saying I believe Floyd just cause he said so either. But you almost always weigh the least first thing in the morning if your routine is the same. It gets muddled cause we don’t know if he cut water to make weight in the first place or anything. Who knows what his intake before or after the weigh in was. But don’t get it twisted, your weight can drastically be less the next morning than it was the afternoon or night before. It can also be drastically heavier from morning to night. It all depends on your fluid intake and how hydrated you were or weren’t on each time you got on the scale or belly full of food. I’ve got picture proof of the scale where I’ve put on 12lbs in less than twelve hours. Wasent the rumour that Oscar weighed less by fight night vs Manny? “Manny have even thrown up a bit” was the Freddie Roach comment. All I’m saying is I don’t have to believe Floyd but I know that you can lose or gain a lot of water weight from extreme to extreme. Within Floyd’s mentioned parameters it’s well with “physical” possibility easily. Likely? Him being honest? I doubt it. Every fighter should just get on a fight night scale so we don’t fight about this stuff. Us fans need to demand it. We let people wear T-shirt’s, pants, sombreros on the scale. What a joke. There’s millions bet on these fights. We should demand more!!
An athlete who drinks too much water after training runs a serious risk. Every year it used to be common for a few long distance cyclists to die of hyponatremia. One year 7 died- a couple within weeks of one another, right by the roadsides. all after drinking large amounts of water, and brought it to public attention, which is where I learned about it, and have looked it up from time to time.
Even non athletes runs a serious risk by gulping down a lot of water. I used to hear about being intoxicated by even water. Thought it was a joke. It swells the blood cells and in the brain this is serious. Always requires immediate medical attention. So, maybe you've been lucky so far, or a very large person who can absorb more.
Hyponatremia is caused after drinking a load of water, by over dilution of the sodium and general electrolyte content of the blood. Extremely life threatening. Sweating causes much salt loss. Doctors say that athletes should never drink so much water after training, that they weigh more after, than before they began.
I didn't even plan on continuing this dumb ass argument with die hard Floyd fans but they keep flaming me as if they have a clue wtf they're talking about, anyone who has actually been involved in a fighters camp should know theres no way in hell Floyd lost 5 lbs let alone then gained it back within hrs. Its as if Logic doesn't apply around here
Do you know what a litre of water weighs? 1kg, 2.2lbs. Put that into perspective. You can drink two litres of anything in a minute or two. That’s 4.4lbs. I’m not saying I believe Floyd just cause he said so either. But you almost always weigh the least first thing in the morning if your routine is the same. It gets muddled cause we don’t know if he cut water to make weight in the first place or anything. Who knows what his intake before or after the weigh in was. But don’t get it twisted, your weight can drastically be less the next morning than it was the afternoon or night before. It can also be drastically heavier from morning to night. It all depends on your fluid intake and how hydrated you were or weren’t on each time you got on the scale or belly full of food. I’ve got picture proof of the scale where I’ve put on 12lbs in less than twelve hours. Wasent the rumour that Oscar weighed less by fight night vs Manny? “Manny have even thrown up a bit” was the Freddie Roach comment. All I’m saying is I don’t have to believe Floyd but I know that you can lose or gain a lot of water weight from extreme to extreme. Within Floyd’s mentioned parameters it’s well with “physical” possibility easily. Likely? Him being honest? I doubt it. Every fighter should just get on a fight night scale so we don’t fight about this stuff. Us fans need to demand it. We let people wear T-shirt’s, pants, sombreros on the scale. What a joke. There’s millions bet on these fights. We should demand more!!
They DO report guestimates you clown,they do it all the time,& get off Floyds sac long enough to stop deflecting,this thread has nothing to do with anything other than the COMMON SENSE that Floyd LIED about losing 5 lbs between weigh in & the fight,if the network weight was accurate (which I didn't even refute) it PROVES that its impossible for Floyd to have lost 5 lbs, Because he'd then have to have also gained back 5 lbs all within hrs. Get a clue
Common sense? Lol, you and common sense don't belong in the same sentence.
Clearly common sense is not common to you, you depraved pathological liar.
Guestimates on the tale of the tape? Lol, can't make this shieet up. You're as dumb as a sack of bricks.
I wouldn't take Ellerbe's word on anything. He's nothing but a tool anyway. VERY Malleable. I've always thought that the Mayweather family had very light skeletal frames so his weight should have stayed stable after he stopped growing..
As for links, I just wrote in "Floyd Mayweather's IV controversy" or something similar and I got nearly a page of reports about it. I read several from different sites and each said he'd been doing it for years. That's all I know about it. And I recall the photo showyng him getting an IV..
Do you have any comment on the 2 part article that -I think it was- Thomas Hauser did on Mayweather's failed PED tests which were hidden by the NSAC. ??
It was printed on this site a few years ago.
- -Hauser inside info on TBE TUE USADA testing failures...I was Thomas who discovered the 2week backdated TUE. When Arum finally got that report, he noted that his octogenarian testa levels were higher than TBE TUE...smoking gun + corrupt Vegas commish = some $300mil lawsuits filed by fans and well heeled gamers over that dishwater fight where Manny denied injections he'd been getting for his shoulder whereas TBE TUE got his for his delicate grrly hands...the end...
If it is just those reports back in 2015, yes I know about that. Thanks
Just watching the video Floyd looks like he's lying. 4lbs or so for a guy that size sounds unlikely but not impossible. I'll have to weigh myself at different times of day to see what's a normal variation.
It seems to me like you are numericallu challenged. Lol.
5lbs?
Where defaq you get that from?
Floyd was 150.5lbs on the one day weigh in and 150.0lbs on fight night.
That is a diffence of 0.5 lbs.
Lol, you can literally lose 0.5 lbs by simply taking a dump in the toilet.
Lol, fool, smh.
Someone with common sense! Green K
I didn't even plan on continuing this dumb ass argument with die hard Floyd fans but they keep flaming me as if they have a clue wtf they're talking about, anyone who has actually been involved in a fighters camp should know theres no way in hell Floyd lost 5 lbs let alone then gained it back within hrs. Its as if Logic doesn't apply around here
basically they are just a trolls. cancers really invade forums. it's their habit anyway. no way to dissolve them.
does floyd pooping 5kgs of nails? wtf common sense guys. he's a liar.
I didn't even plan on continuing this dumb ass argument with die hard Floyd fans but they keep flaming me as if they have a clue wtf they're talking about, anyone who has actually been involved in a fighters camp should know theres no way in hell Floyd lost 5 lbs let alone then gained it back within hrs. Its as if Logic doesn't apply around here
So you're arguing about something that is trivial and inconsequential?
Who defaq cares if he what weight he was when he woke up in the morning?
Lol, the only thing that matters is what he weighed on the one day weigh in and on fight night.
Phuck! This thread is even more stupid than I thought, smh.
For the last time you ass,this thread is titled "Floyd woke up on FIGHT NIGHT against Canelo weighing 146,do you believe him":dunce:
In other words Floyd is either lying about weighing 146 FIGHT NIGHT or both,that he also gained the 5 lbs back,use common sense for once in your life,stop being a fanboi