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I would say that Amir Khan got people's attention actually. Not Canelo. Sort of like the main character and the co-star. Khan is the main character of the news, despite being the B-side. Canelo is the co-star. Believe it, all eyes will be on Khan in the build up to see how he transforms his body, how fast he's looking, how does he feel as the fight gets closer. This is all Khan here, until he gets knocked out, then it will be Canelo again. The shocking news here is Khan wanting, not Canelo accepting. Doesn't matter, you're paying attention.

http://giant.gfycat.com/SphericalLeanBlackfly.gif pretty sure this :dance:

Hey bro didn't maidana duck him when thurman was coming up on hbo?? I still think maidana woulda beaten thurman badly He turned down the fight when Maidana's trainer had just died and he was coming off a loss to Devon Alexander. Maidana said he wanted to retire but his team asked him for 1 more fight, specifically a tune-up and Haymon tried using Maidana as a stepping stone so Contursi (Maidana's manager) found out what Haymon was trying to do and he cancelled the fight. It wasn't Maidana himself.

More of the interview: "I am retiring. I don't want to box anymore. It's mostly finished. The majority of everything is already decided and the decision isn't dependent on anything. I will announce my retirement in the near future. I am leaving very happy and grateful. I thank God for having given me this opportunity in life. I don't think I have anything left. I have given everything I could. My most satisfying victories were against Victor Ortiz and Adrien Broner because everyone had already written me off. But I couldn't beat him . I have invested all the money I have won. I am doing things that give me good money and I don't need to fight again." So to those saying he will be back for money, more than likely not. Also, Robert Garcia said that money in ARG is 10x more than in the US and Robert Garcia said he made over 100 million ARG cash, that means he got paid over $10 million when adding both Floyd bouts. So who knows exactly how much.

Remember, Maidana CAN get dropped. He was dropped several times by Ortiz, I think 3 times. Dropped by Khan to the body. Hurt pretty good vs Josesito before making a comeback. And stunned by Morales. To be fair, 2010 was the last time Maidana went down. He went on for 5 years without visiting the canvas. But just saying, before predicting a TKO for a fighter who's been down himself, over a fighter with a proven chin who has never been down, think about it. Margarito-Cotto I was easy to predict a TKO upset for Marg because of Cotto's past tendencies of getting dropped. But then people predicted Margarito by TKO over Mosley, who had one of the best chins in boxing in the last 10 years prior. I tried telling people, Mosley will win and will not get hurt. Margarito is the one who's been hurt and dropped in the past. Mosley destroyed Margarito with ease. Garcia has never been dropped, can take a punch, and can drop you. Maidana can get dropped and get wild and can get caught with those hooks from Garcia. And you're forgetting Maidana has dropped guys who have never gone down in their careers. Broner is considered to have a granite chin and even Porter couldn't hurt him. It didn't stop Maidana from knocking him down. Karass also has an iron chin and only Maidana and Thurman have truly knocked him down. Danny would be no different. Danny definitely has a chance to win, but Maidana's experience and I honestly believe he's a better boxer than Garcia. Even Floyd was having trouble outboxing Maidana in the rematch and Maidana was counterpunching with Floyd, not trying to maul him like in the 1st fight. You're also forgetting Maidana has improved. You said they have both struggled in the past against guys they were supposed to beat and that's true, but Maidana has come a long way where as Danny hasn't been looking any better. I think Maidana would take it, once Danny feels the power it would be a repeat of Broner all over again. Funny thing is that I think Broner would probably beat Danny lol. Robert Guerrero is a gatekeeper and Danny should have obliterated him at this point in Guerrero's career.

Maidana wasn't that distinctively different with Garcia, the thing is, Maidana likes to wrap his right arm around his opponent's waist whilst using his left, he tried it against Alexander multiple times and Alexander simply moved into him or tied his left arm up. Alexander showed that he's physically strong enough to handle Maidana's pressure, has the durability to do so and a good enough offense that clicked. Devon simply has his number, winning every round more than told me that. 7 minutes of a misleading video isn't gonna take away from the good performance Devon had that night, I don't even like Alexander but that's what it was, he has his number. My friend, having someone's number is a lot more than "wrap his right arm around his opponent's waist" lol. You also said he's not distinctly different? I really feel like making a video just to finally stop people from bringing up the "he lost to Alexander doe" argument. He's tremendously different. If you think Alexander would have beaten the Maidana that Floyd fought then that's fair, I won't argue that. It's just that when people say he's still the same fighter, it bothers me. Just like how Khan changed under Virgil Hunter. Khan hasn't changed that much but he still became a much more defensive fighter (whether it hurt him or not is up to you). There seems to be a small minority that thinks Maidana is still the same even though it was blatantly obvious that he wasn't and it caught everyone by surprise with the Karass fight. The guy you have in your GIF, Canelo is also different than when he was fighting the likes of Shane Mosley. A lot of people still think he's the same fighter, but it's blatantly obvious from the Cotto fight that he has new tricks up his sleeve. He's still a counter-puncher and remains largely the same, but he's putting a large emphasis on his athleticism and agility. Maidana meanwhile put a large emphasis on technique and strategy rather than just simply delivering power. Look at him in the video I posted. Now look at this: Not at all the same..

Sure but lets be honest here, what was his last good win? Victor Ortiz? Adrien Broner? :ugh: #truthbombs They were both undefeated when he beat both of them to be fair. Ortiz' only loss was because he knocked someone the **** out with an illegal punch lol.

They both struggled against guys fans thought they would steamroll. They both beat favorites. Both struggled vs Morales. Maidana struggled against Corley, Garcia struggled against Herrera, Guerrero. Maidana struggled against Lopez. Maidana, if you guys forgot already, was supposed to TKO Khan. It was Khan's first step up since Prescott. Before that, Khan was being fed featherfists and old fighters. Khan beat Maidana, Garcia KO'ed Khan, when the predictions were the other way around, Khan was supposed to beat Garcia. Broner was supposed to beat Maidana, got humiliated by him instead. Matthysse was supposed TKO^ Garcia, got dropped and beaten instead. Maidana upset Ortiz as well. It's a 55-45 fight leaning towards DSG. Maidana was an underdog against Khan what are you saying lol

Of course, he would have made for a more exciting WW division but if his heart ain't in it anymore, I can only hope that he enjoys life. I agree, I don't want him to come back and get knocked out and used as a stepping stone for some other rising star. But I will miss what could have been if he hadn't of stopped. The Maidana that fought Floyd would have beaten almost anyone.

I miss that he isn't around for young guys like Thurman, Brook, or Spence to pound on. Maidana isn't that good. His claim to fame was trashing Broner, and being cherry picked by Floyd twice. Who would have thought Devon Alexander would have a much easier time with Chino than Floyd. The Maidana that fought Floyd would destroy Devon lol, what are you talking about? Floyd would pick apart everyone you named lmao.

People should stop making excuses for Maidana, Alexander just has his number, it's boxing...that happens. That video, which I've already seen is misleading as well, Maidana does his own holding as well because he's not comfortable on the inside. Alexander would have his number if he beat him again in a rematch. That's a silly thing to say man. Go look at Maidana in that fight. He looked horrible. He was a plodder with absolutely no skill. Look at his punches and his stance, it was atrocious. But Maidana has a history of being bad at training. Robert Garcia himself said that Maidana's little brother is just like how Maidana was in the early part of his career. Maidana use to always be getting in trouble, wouldn't show up to training camps, etc. In the Alexander fight Maidana's trainer had just died or was very ill, I can't remember. Maidana didn't get a new trainer after that fight because he lost, he got a new trainer because his old trainer was gone. That's why he wanted to retire. Garcia said Maidana looked like a new fighter because he was actually training hard for the first time in his career. It's no one's fault but Maidana's but saying Alexander has his number for beating a really bad version of Maidana is silly. You have to admit.

Hell yes! Sometimes I was rooting for him and sometimes against, but he always brought it 100% and never coasted once he was up; he'd try to get his man outta' there, which can't be said for everybody. Can't remember him afraid of risk either,which also can't be said for everybody. That's true. I remember I wanted Maidana to beat Ortiz and he did. And I was rooting for Lopez to beat Maidana but he didn't. I think I like Maidana because he made me $500 when I bet he would beat the brakes off of Broner lol

Broner was never considered to have a granite chin. And Maidana was underdog but he was supposed ot be Khan's step up fight, he was the most dangerous fight at 140, and he was supposed ot test Khan's chin, do more that test it. Actually, Broner WAS known and is STILL known for having a granite chin. Nobody had been able to knock him down not even hurt him until he fought Maidana. Now that Maidana knocked him down and is still the only one to do it, all of a sudden his chin isn't good, right? Come on now, that's ridiculous. If not, then go get evidence that suggests otherwise. I'll wait.

Garcia had him more defensively responsible, made him throw shorter punches but it wouldn't have been enough to beat Alexander. I don't think highly of Alexander, lord knows I was one of his biggest critics when he was coming up but I do feel that he's Maidana's kryptonite. Maidana's style is dependent on being able to outmuscle his opponents and he just can't do that against Alexander. Alexander having a very solid chin didn't help either. Actually, that's one of the biggest misconceptions about Maidana's style. He doesn't out muscle his opponents. He did that against Floyd. Maidana's is a mid-range fighter, contrary to popular belief. Maidana's style is more like how he fought Floyd in the rematch than in the 1st fight. He relies more on landing his power punches than "out muscling". Shawn Porter out muscles his opponents, Maidana just happens to keep range very often and he effectively cuts off the ring so to the naked eye it appears like he's doing what Porter does, but the reason he has more power than Porter is because he doesn't smother his offense and relies on staying at a distance to effectively get leverage on his power. Again, there's more to Maidana than you think.

Yes he does, when he failed to do so he didn't look too good, Soto Karass is another good example of that. It was clear that Maidana's inability to push Alexander back played a major role in his defeat, it was also clear that not being able to utilize his free hand the way he's accustomed to, especially with rabbit punching, did as well. I've always known Maidana was mid range, this is why he's real selective with what he does on the inside, he picks his opportunities well but against Alexander all that was neutralized. So what you're basically saying is that illegal tactics that can be neutralized depending on the referee is the reason why Alexander is a better fighter? Lol, let's say it's Jack Reese as the referee and Alexander starts getting points deducted for holding...BINGO. Game over. Also, it was their first fight at 147. Alexander was very well filled out while if you look at both of their bodies, you can see Maidana's body grew into the division over time where as Alexander hasn't changed much at all. That's not much of a factor though.

You choose to speak in hypotheticals. I choose to speak in reality. You claim boxing knowledge, but don't seem to have any. Maidana matched up much differently with Mayweather versus Alexander. With Mayweather, he could be much more aggressive, because Maidana is bigger physically than Mayweather is. He was heavier in the ring, and he also knew that Mayweather couldn't hurt him, so he could come in with his wildness, and attack. Against Alexander, it wasn't the current old gnome Alexander, it was an Alexander that was still serviceable. Alexander is Maidana's size. Add to that he has an iron chin. Add to that, he hurt Maidana during their fight, something that Floyd didn't have the power to do. A more wild and care free aggressive Maidana would lose worse against that Alexander, than he did when they fought. Hell, Alexander took Maidana's punches better than Maidana took his. Karass is garbage. Are you a teenager or a woman? http://i.imgur.com/AUIekX8.gif?1 LOL. He took Maidana's punches? Maidana never landed clean on Alexander you clown. You're calling me names because YDKSAB. Alexander looked like crap against Karass. Also, Alexander can get worse but Maidana can't get better, right? Again, HAHA. You sound like a joke. Floyd would school Alexander and make him quit like Bradley did. Maidana would murder Alexander and I could imagine you balling your eyes at the TV as Alexander gets TKO'd. Alexander doesn't have any power. He couldn't even hurt Khan but somehow he's such a big puncher that not even Maidana dared to attack him? Even though Maidana fought Ortiz with much more aggressiveness and Ortiz is bigger than Alexander AND a bigger puncher? Haha, I'm schooling you right now, just stop. Just admit you hate Floyd and don't want to give him any credit for beating Maidana. Therefore you want to diminish Maidana's improvements to say Floyd sucks. Get out of here clown.

Who wins between the Chino that beat Broner/pushed Floyd and the Danny we just watched beat Guerrero? I think if Guerrero was able to land the right hand and break through Danny's defense, then Maidana would break through it like butter. Maidana ranked among the most accurate welterweights when it came to power punches landed after he fought Broner.

What are you talking about? Alexander made easy work of Maidana. That Alexander would beat any version of Maidana. We aren't talking about Floyd. We are talking about Chino's over rated arse. That Floyd runweather would pick apart Thurman, Brook or Spence is highly debatable, and we will never find out, because Floyd was too busy fighting fringe contenders like Chino twice. Again, you're using no boxing knowledge. If you think the Maidana that fought Floyd was the same Maidana that fought Devon then stop right now and go do your homework. Hell, look at him against Devon then look at him against Karass. He went from a brawling style and adopted a completely mechanical style with much better technique. Various feints, a working range-finding jab, a jab to position and set up his shots, foot-feints, bending at the knees, head-movement, straighter shots, better combinations and an ACTUAL defense which he didn't have before. If you can't see that then you're clearly just a hater or I'm sorry to say, mentally ill. http://i.imgur.com/AUIekX8.gif?1 Again, NOT the same Maidana

Yeah he did. I asked a question. Your debating style and emotion suggest you are of an immature age. Alexander beat Maidana in 2012. He fought Soto Karass more than two years later when he was on the downslide. Clearly not the same fighter he was two years prior. Once again, we aren't talking about Floyd, Khan or Bradley. I am not even a Alexander guy. We are talking about Chino, and I mentioned how Alexander easily beat him. Chino is a likable boxer, has a ton of heart. He is somewhat limited though, and not all that good in my opinion. You are all over the place with your post. You came to this thread talking **** so I replied in suit. Don't get all defensive about it and start crying. You fired back yourself by calling me a woman. And Alexander fought a Soto Karass who had already been stopped by Maidana and Thurman and Alexander still struggled. I don't see why you can't seem to admit that Maidana improved. Why is it so hard for you to accept that? Everyone in the boxing world knows it's clear as daylight except you. Even if you had just said you don't think Maidana improved, you came here saying you would want to see Maidana get beat up and how he's overrated and that he's a fringe contender. Come on man, you sound like he slept with your woman.

Floyd gave him the platform to make his presence known. Before the Floyd fight, Maidana had already been the headliner for numerous main events. He was even going to be the PPV fight for Broner. He had been in some of the most action packed fights of the last decade, a true embodiment of what boxing is all about. Floyd gave him the platform, but it was up to Maidana to truly make himself known. Whether he ended up like Berto (he isnt more popular now than he was before) or not was up to him. He chose to give Floyd tough fights and therefore people still remember him as being a threat to anyone and a lot of fantasy fights arose from his performances. Even now most of us want him to stay retired but a part of us want him to get in shape and come back hungry, not just for money.

These guys just found Maidana chilling in a train cart and asked for a shoutout?? :lol1: Probably. Could you imagine someone like Floyd sitting in that crap? LOL

Lmao.. I ain't gay... Can no one take a joke anymore... But for real, it looks like a black dildo laying in his lap..:dance: that's a knife :rofl:

is he looking like david tua or is it just me? :lol1: vamos chino todabia!! http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/03/05/1226846/290983-a4a60d5c-a435-11e3-94c1-d923b8b77352.jpg Yeah he is :rofl:

Is he homeless? Wtf is he doing in a boxcar? It's called not forgetting where you came from i guess. just because he's a millionaire he hasnt changed what made him happy and material possessions don't mean much to him

What people seem to forget is that Maidana is no ordinary fighter. Casual boxing fans think any aggressive fighter is a "brawler". Maidana is a high-level pressure fighter. He shares a lot of similarities in his style as the great Roberto Duran such as the multiple feints, footwork, defense while coming forward and ability to cut off the ring. It could even be argued that Maidana knows how to cut the ring off better than the legend. Maidana has defense while coming forward. ShowTime labeled Maidana a dumb brawler, but HBO recognized that Maidana was actually a smart fighter and mentioned it numerous times when he fought guys like Ortiz and Victor Cayo. The perception that somehow Maidana has no defense even though he troubled the most accurate boxer in history boggles my mind. So the best defensive boxer of all time gets hit multiple times by Maidana, but somehow Danny Garcia is a "master technician" now that can't be touched? Lmao. Also, people mention Danny Garcia's left hook, yet one of Maidana's most deceptive sneaky shots is his own left hook. Remember how it put Broner to sleep for a couple of seconds in round 2? Then again in round 8? And how people said Maidana broke Broner's jaw with it and sent him out the ring crying?

No wonder your rep is 0 Lol. :lol1:

Cuban fighters are like Cuban cigars. Everyone thinks they're better than they really are. You sound a little butthurt for no reason. Are we in the presence of one of Floyd's angels? I also like how you brought up your 4 karma points and you have almost 2,000 posts lmao.

I think it goes 12 rounds but eventually Maidana wins. Pre-Robert Garcia Maidana wasn't a total punchingbag. He was smart enough to know what works and what doesn't. He wasn't the type of fighter to keep doing something that wasn't working and if he found out he could hit you with a certain punch, he'd keep throwing it until he got you out of there. Meanwhile Rios just kind of throws anything to hit you even if he leaves himself open or misses. Also, Maidana's will to win back in the day was better than almost anyone in the sport.

Maidana at 140 was a BRUTAL body puncher if you stood right in front of him. Rios has always had problems with body punches (like Maidana, except Rios isn't known as a body puncher where as Maidana at 140 was). Maidana has had a tendency of stopping or at least dropping guys who have never been down before (like Victor Cayo 24-0 (rd 6 KO, dropped twice), Petr Petrov 29-2 (rd 4 KO, dropped 3 times), Victor Ortiz 24-1 (rd 6 TKO, dropped twice) and Rios wouldn't be the exception. Unlike Rios, Maidana has never been stopped so why would we assume Rios would somehow stop him? Someone said Maidana has only faced 1 puncher...which puncher has Rios faced exactly? Mike Alvarado is an ok puncher, not a big puncher and he was hurting Rios. Maidana was a much bigger puncher and a lot more durable. Face it, Rios' prime was at 135, not 140. Maidana would have eaten Rios alive, chewed him up and spit him out.

i thought the argentines left him but it seems that Chino's brother still trains with him. he is the one with white gloves, he is much more of a boxer than Chino was. can't wait to see him develop He did leave...he's just back now. Don't know how it is though. The Argentine's left after one of them snitched to Diego Chaves about Brandon Rios' arm. I wonder how the RGBA will feel about Fabian Maidana being there when Abner Mares vs Jesus Cuellar gets rescheduled.