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so you are now an expert?? and an engineer in biochemical in just observing them. any this is boxing not baseball or any other sports comes into your mind. steroids also can be injected to a horse any other animals. but how about those who use it and didnt get success like that famoso guys you posted?? steroids will not make a speedy things or recovering stuff or make you dodgy only enalrgement of muscles make it firm and big and strength enhancer. read more in a legitimate than those you have seen in TV. take a look at those body builders and a simple marine who do you think is more reliable in strength??? a. body builders are bulky and slow b. marine is speedy and have a decent strength than builders. take a look at steroid user: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W227p4PEZTU&feature=PlayList&p=03929CC483DF896D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=55 Dude Doesn't matter Pacquiao would still be on steroids and you would still come with another explanation. Until he starts taking the test he's legacy is on hold. and yes like just like the other poster said boxing is a dirty sport and there are many different type of illegal shit out there that can help your performance. Look man you aint no expert either you just a Pac hugger and if you were a doctor you might be the one getting him the illegal shit.

Not gonna read that.. But did u see how pac cut the ring so effectively? Cotto was backpedalling from the 6th on but still could not avoid pacs fury.. If pac is one dimensional then WTF does it say to all the opponents that have been KTFO by him?? Cotto had nothing left from in six and on he's been through many battles, but once Manny Pacquiao rocked him in the 5th Cotto was too hurt to recover. Cotto just didn't have enough to fight like he started. He was tired and hurt. Cotto bruises to easily since the Margarito fight. It happen with Clottey and Clottey shouldn't had given him more trouble than Mosley, because he's isn't as fast, but Cotto had nothing left and only survive because Clottey isn't a fast pace fighter. Sure any faster fighter would have to be strong, because Clottey had the power to hurt Cotto. While Pacquiao had the power and to hurt him early and continue on later.

What did he say? 2.6 or something? IDK about that much but Im starting to think this fight will do huge numbers. I mean Floyd-JMM did 1mil with hardly any hype. Everyone is hyping this fight right now. I could see it doing some crazy number. I wont hate though. Im loving how boxing is getting all these crushing PPV's. The more the merrier if you ask me. I know I will be watching What do you mean the fight wasn't hype. They delayed the fight and Mayweather went on television many times including the WWE Raw live show.

Be f*cking man! Some of you are so confident that Cotto is going to win and he looks the best shape in his career, but then why ask for odds? Pac is fighting in Cotto's weight class, you don't see Pac fans asking for odds. Pac has been around that weight for his previous two fights. By now he should feel a lot more comfortable in the weight.

cotto has a history of uitting in the mgm grand..... Cotto will get rob he better go for the knockout its his only chance. Manny pacquiao will be favor in las Vegas this is his third fight in a row and he'll make a fourth one if he wins. they want manny to win in vegas more money for them.

No. Cotto better KO lil Pac in 6 or he's fukked. Period. If he doesn't he's the one getting k.o. After 6 if Cotto doesn't hasn't won he loses. He can't let the decision in the judges hands. Not for this fight, because they want to bulit up the Floyd vs Pac P4P fight. If manny were to lose that's goes out the window next to the title of the fight.

Mayweather is praying that they both beat the hell off each other. While he takes a long rest. He always fights guys after he finishes his fight first to have the extra rest advantage. That's one of the reason he faked an injury to fight Marquez in September. He did it after he knew when Cotto and Manny were fighting in November.

:rofl::rofl: at this being one of your points. See Mayweather was moving up in weight. Making 154 would've made him slow and he wouldn't be carrying and more power. De La Hoya wasn't as strong so its wan't much of a physical risk for Floyd. Like i said he still went up in weight. He didn't because he just wanted to have an advantage vs De La Hoya. De La Hoya was old and past his prime. Mayweather just wanted to still be light and afst to be able to escape from him.

Theres no Welter Weight out there like Manny Pacquiao with speed, power and gatorade type energy. A combination of all that is what gave Cotto trouble. Most Welter Weights can't keep up that pace and for those that can they don't have Manny's Power. Cotto problem was that he actually fights to clean and that he didn't use the jab most of the time. Other fighters would be clinching with Pacquiao or tying him up and grabbing. Cotto does none of those things. and when Cotto went exchanging blows from a distance with Pacquiao he forgot manny has his same reach. But if it were Mosley he could hit Pacquiao while Pacquia couldn't reach him and that makes a world of a difference. Cotto best chance was use the jab and only counter pacquiao on small amount of occasions, because after he did Manny was still there to fire bombs, but Cotto had nothing more to give. And you can't do that you have to leave enough energy to protect yourself and use the strong jab.

http://sport.stv.tv/boxing/136769-freddie-roach-believes-cotto-is-damaged-goods/ This is from BEFORE the fight with Cotto. Roach says Cotto is damaged goods. Therefore, ANY victory over him is less impressive. How could it be otherwise? Your opponent was "damaged". Oscar "couldn't pull the trigger". Hatton "can't make weight". Etc. Etc. Freddie has basically explained before each of Manny's last three fights that each rival was washed up, in decline, or recovering. Therefore, he established beforehand Manny couldn't have a good night. There was a 'catch'. Don't get mad at me. Freddie said it. Floyd meanwhile, defeated an Oscar and a Hatton in their primes. Making his victories more impressive. ANY time you fight a guy, whether it be in the ring, or on the street (I realize neither happens to 90% of the tough guys on here- playing Nintendo Wii doesn't count) and someone says the guy you beat was "damaged goods" or "can't pull the trigger" in a fight- YOU know it automatically dilutes any victory you got. You don't look tough or impressive, you look weak for beating up a guy who was in bad health. So why is it different in this case? He's quite honest isn't he. but even if Cotto was Damage goods, manny was the only one capable of beating him. Mannys power had what it takes to hurt Cotto. Mannys stamina had what it takes to Outwork Cotto and Manny Multiple punches had what was needed to break Cottos defense. If you lack Stamina Cotto will be able to recover and hurt you in a worst way than when the fight starts and he himself will be stronger, because he won't be out worked by much. the less stamina you have the less punches you can throw or the less power they will have in some portion of the fight. If you lack Power Cotto will walk right toward you and will be able to break your defense. While not being hurt he will have more stamina and will have a clearer mind to work with making him more precise on his punches and defense. If you lack a high work rate. Cotto will be able to match your punch output and his defense will also be ready and you will have a lesser chance to hurt him. Cotto really cant deal with these three important elements in boxing. He would've have to stick more with the jab and use more of his defense. His reach was the same as manny so he couldn't try to land punches from a distance and not get hit back. Unless it was the jab. And although Cotto does use it he's never done a full fight with it. And I think he expected Manny to get hurt and back away, but Manny took those punches as good as any welter weight and i believe thats something he didn't expect to happen that led Miguel to brawl with Manny instead. And by the time he did Cotto was hurt and his gas tank was getting empty while Manny's tank was full and running on diesel.

Most laughable post Ive seen in a while, Floyd haters are getting worse by the second. You're just a blind lover. Just get out of the closet with him. You're kissing his ass too much and not making any sense.

Mayweather didn't make Hatton move up. Hatton said he was bigger and stronger then Mayweather and decided on that. Also at that time, Mayweather and Hatton were the same size. Hatton just accepted because that was the only way Floyd would fight him. He knows every trick and the book. The guy was retired he should have stayed retired.

This was already done and trinidad won by land slide. just because Manny beat a shot Cotto they think he can beat any Welter weight, but as soon as many fights some more welterweights he will become shot himself and you'll see he can take one punch and continue on strong. Manny had it easy on his last three fights, while Cotto had two out of three hard battles. It was fighting those battles whay hurt Cotto, the Clottey fight and the Margarito fight that counts for two. But not even a Mayweather wil be as dangerous for manny as fighting a Margarito, Clottey or Mosley. Those are the hard hitting fighters that will make you a shot fight. Margarito cause of the plaster.

None of that matters. There are alot of guys who have had a many tought fights and still look great while certain guys can get ruined in one night. Your eyes dont lie. You know when a guy is not the same when you see it Name current top fighters that have had tough fights on a row. Guys that represented a real challenge and were dangerous.

Confidence in Floyd? I don't even like Floyd. The fight is a toss up for me. But Pacquiao's a big boy now, we saw what he can do at WW. What can he do? Anyone would've pick that De La Hoya apart he was slow too damn slow. Pacquiao would've weigh-in 150 and he be still too fast for him. He fought Hatton at 140 so that doesn't count. That leaves only Cotto who was 146 and came at 145. So Pacquiao fought at 145 fighter and is asking another 146 guy to make weight. A fighter like Floyd that cheated making weight vs Marquez. So its fair.

doubt it. but why does 2 pounds off the welterweight limit such a big deal to freddi? his fighter just showed he can hang in there with a true welterweight. does he really thing 1 or 2 pounds in this fight is the difference between a pacquiao win or loss? But why didn't Mayweather make the weight against Marquez? If You can't trust Floyd coming bigger, he might as well ask him to come down just one pound. Manny on the other hand needs the speed. His speed is much needed vs Mayweather. Manny manage to beat Oscar, but Oscar is too slow. he was old. Hatton fight was at 140. And Cotto moved down and was already tired by the 6th round. No Mannys speed is key for him. He has only fought two guys above 140. Slow old Oscar and 6 round Cotto. Two pounds against Mayweather mean more to him than for Floyd.

apologize if it's already been posted. all I heard was nothing but excuses.. seems like he has the gitters. thats so hypocritical coming from Mayweather Jr. He been asked the same question and he had the same answer. Floyd just want more money. He knows Pac will fight on a food 50/50 split. If Pac ain't scared of Cotto he ain't scared of Mayweather.

No, but it's some bullshit. Roach needs to have some confidence in Pacquiao. They need to fight at 147. Don't you have confidence in Floyd. Wasn't Floyd going to fight Marquez at 144 and came at 146.

He's pretending he wants to fight him, but he won't settle for less than 60. He doesn't want the world to believe he's afraid of him. He knows that. Thats why he's coming out with these excuses. Does he think he gain more by fighting De La Hoya, Baldomir, Mitchell Gatti etc? did he care about what people would said before? No he didn't. But now he does care? Then He say Mannys one dimensional fighter, but it's that dimension that Floyd doesn't have that he wished he did.

:rofl: :rofl: My quote: Thats because Margarito only loaded for Cotto and maybe Cintron I said this because he took the handwraps off in his three previous fights and they weren't hurt at all. I've seen the videos he took the them off against Paul Williams, Golden Johnson and Joshua Clottey. and he took them off vs Shane Mosley. If you have blood on your knuckles your hands are hurt, but his hands showed no signs of being hurt in any off those fights that he took the wraps off. both handwraps had blood and one of them a strange big hole in the middle.

Nah, I've seen many fighters and they usually never have blood on their handwraps. Margarito had it in both of his handwraps and also had that big hole in the middle. Plus I've seen his other fights with Paul Williams, Clottey and Golden Johnson and of course Shane Mosley. And he took his handwraps off for all of them. That's almost all of his last fights except for Cotto and maybe Cintron, I couldn't tell in the Cintron fight. Also he showed no signs of having his hands hurt when he took them off contrary to Cotto he kept them on. Add the fact that Cotto hurt Clottey more than he did despite Clottey having a broken hand it it just tells you he didn't load up for clottey. think about it, Clottey doesn't move as quick as Cotto and yet Cotto hurt him more while Margarito couldn't hurt a handicap Clottey. Thats because Margarito only loaded for Cotto and maybe Cintron. I can tell you that there are some Mexicans that hate Puerto Ricans more than any other race. They both have this rivalry that comes from a long time ago. I'm not really sure why. I also find it strange that Diego Corales had blood while not taking his handwraps off either.

Uh I want to see the fight, so don't ****ing tell me I fail. Mayweather didn't have to fight Judah but he did anyway. Yeah Mayweather is like goldilocks looking for what bed to sleep on. He lloks to see who is shot and picks him. Shot fighters are proving to not take a punch. How many wars did Erik Morales had? Manny wouldn't knock him out before that. I seriously believe in that, but other pretend its not true to make their fighter seem bigger than he is. Gatti, Mitchell, R. Marquez. Hatton and now Cotto without a doubt. they can take a certain amount of punishment or a big shot without getting knockout. Thats why cherry pickers sucks. They play it like a game, just waiting to see more cards till they know which one to choose from.

Cotto was just hurt. He was buying time to recover. He didn't want to be anywhere near Manny onslaught.

If he fought Cotto at 145 he should fight Floyd at 145. If two pounds didn't matter for Cotto it shouldn't matter for Mayweather or anyone else.

+1. Gayweather is a small WW anyways so it shouldn't matter. Might as well milk his potential lack of respect by coming in at 147. :headbang: But now that Pacquiao is champ i bet he will be ask to come ina t 147. It's stupid to win the title at 144 or 145 and defend it at 147. He really shouldn't have won it in the first place. Its was done just for the record.

Lmao, If there ever was a fight that doesnt need a rematch then that was the fight last night. what about Mosley, Maragarito. Maragrito lasted 8 rounds in a sweep.

Pac face look terrible compare to some off his other fights. how can he take that punishment? I knew Cotto looked weak, but still pacquiao was amazing to withstand so much in the first three rounds.

Hard to believe , but its true.

Cotto's punches definitely had a greater snap to them, whenever they landed that is. Pacquiao's punches had only a little less in them, but they were plentiful, which added to the overall damage to Cotto. I just so happens that, in this case, speed prevailed against power. But Cotto power wasn't that big against Manny. He did everything great in the beginning. He even try to make up for that first knockdown. He got to many, but Manny just wasn't getting hurt enough. then when manny hurt him it was over. He was afraid of mannys punches and he was already weak for trying to make up for the knockdown. Its not like Cotto couldn't catch him or box with him, but he can't trade punches. Because Cotto punches weren't that powerful against Manny. If they were Manny would be stopped momentarily from doing his combos. Everyone knew Coto would be weak at the end with the way Manny fights, but if he couldn't hurt Manny than Manny wouldn't be coming forward.

Cotto was outgunned, but hes a hell of a fighter. He came in great shape and he was willing to throw down. Hes a beast in the ring, and hes a gentleman outside of the ring. He gave Manny hell for the first half of the fight and hes still one of the top guys at WW. Manny is just something special, Cotto has nothing to be ashamed of and anyone talking bad about him should go hang themselves. Pacquiao out guns any fighter, but he was the stronger fighter too. Cotto is a better boxer, but he can keep up in a brawl with Pac. Pac is like the energizer bunny. Cotto showed everything except that he wasn't stronger than pac, that couldn't take pacs punches and his stamina.