And here I was, ****** enough to think that maybe, just MAYBE, Floyd might look to do a P4P generational scrap with Terrance Crawford. So just switch out one delusion for the other, because if PacMan was supposedly old and out of his prime to fight Mayweather 10 years ago, what does this mean? It ultimately means that the boxing public is getting what it deserves and kinda what it wants. A consistent recycling of former names to keep marching to the ring as long as they can say a complete sentence and not stumble over their shoes during the ring walk.
I can definitely see Crawford and Turki pushing for that fight. Crawford is the ultimate opportunist of fighting people at the right time, and a 49 year old Floyd or 47 year old Pacquiao seem like the ideal fight for him to proclaim himself as the ultimate Goat.
Crawford was far superior. It's obvious to the eye, Bud had so many more moves and combinations, far more complete as a multi dimensional fighter, Floyd was one dimension pitter patter. Crawford unifed 3 divisions, beat all the best, Fraud never unified nothing, ducked all the threats who would have beaten him. This is a very dumb question, there is no comparison. Bud was a true great and maybe the goat, Fraud was a protected fraud pretender and a self confessed coward.
10/10 rage bait. Well done, sir!
This must be the Floyd boy feel good thread.
Crawford isn't some short, short armed slow fighter who can't box. He can actually hit Floyd back Floyd would duck him into eternity.
Floyd isn’t a slow-footed, defensively irresponsible boxer who can’t make adjustments. 8-4 Mayweather .
TBud would box with Floyd
that is his temperament
In Floyd you have the most accurate straight right spammer in the history of the sport of boxing Carpe Diem
TBud getting feint baited and eating 5 straight rights in less than 10 seconds from Madrimov
Floyd has never had a sequence this bad in his entire career
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYt4U7Tdxkc
I just finished rewatching the Canelo-Crawford fight, and I honestly think the only thing that Crawford could possibly trouble Floyd with would be that sneaky right hook counter similar to how Judah caught him with it, but other than that, I see Floyd offsetting Crawford’s rhythm by disrupting his late-round flurries, and landing the straight right hand all night. Crawford is a boxer puncher who tends to steal rounds with late flurries, but I’ve seen enough sequences in multiple fights of his were he gets beat to the punch and then he reset, and to me Floyd was better at capitalizing on his opponents bad habits/patterns.
Janibek ruined his plan to become undisputed at 160. His undisputed run sort of felt like how Russell Westbrook used to ball hog his way to average a triple double in multiple seasons instead of letting it happen organically. His undisputed run would’ve been more impressive if he had at least defended those belts once after he won them, then moved on to the next division, but he never did. He waited for those guys to do the heavy lifting and then challenged them for undisputed. Great boxer, historic run in the 4 belt era, but Canelo and Spence(I’m not sure he’s a HOF) are arguably the only two HOF on his resume.
There's more to greatness than not getting hit. Floyd's scared to get hit, so is it any wonder that's his priority?. Floyd wanted to prolong his career but he only fought once a year anyway so not sure being elusive was ever needed for prolonging career? And he didn't last as long as pac anyway.
Common opponents said pac s toughest opponents fought, why isn't that as important as hardest to hit opponent?
Floyd's not no1 in wbc poll, is that not credible? Didn't Ring mag have habit of making Floyd's opponents as pf p fighters to make floyd look better? I'm sure I remember guerrero being deemed a pf p fighter around time floyd fought him?
OG pact4rd still going strong in 2025. Salute to you!
I'll reserve my judgement until if/when that fight gets made, but the fact that Arum and Floyd don't even make any mention about the TV networks negotiations being a possible roadblock doesn't sound too good. I really hope those gullible casual and hardcore boxing fans take a stand and boycott both Floyd and Manny next fights if they don't fight each other next.
They're going to keep selling/pitching y'all **** fights as long we keep on letting them get away with it. The Cotto rematch is not ****ty fight, but who in their ****ing right mind is demanding for this ****ing fight to happen right now? No one. Same thing with Amir Khan. Those fights can happen afterwards, but people want Mayweather-Pacquiao NOW, not in September, not 2016, or never, we want it now.
I had a gut-feeling that if Floyd gets the opportunity to fight in May 2nd without anyone challenging him for that date, he'll take it and fight someone not named, Manny Pacquiao. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but the dude is just as sneaky and slimy as the guy he dislikes. I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather-Cotto happens, but for now, I'll reserve judgement until an official announcement.
The interview happened on February 3rd. We have heard new details from different journalists since then. I think it's safe to say Dan gets all of his information from Pac's side. The only person from Floyd's side who talks to him is, Stephen Espinoza.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664074
Lance was the first to report on negotiations with the two fighters this year. It seems like both sides(representative from both networks) are more willing to share specific details to him than any other reporters/journalists. He's been more consistent than, Dan Rafael.
Here's his recent article from two days ago.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-mayweather-pacquiao-boxing-showtime-hbo-20150205-story.html
I agree with the part where he says Floyd is an egotistical control freak, but if this fight doesn't happen, it won't be just Floyd's fault. Dan is quick to call out Floyd's side, but will hesitate to call out Pac's side for their blatant public deception. ****ing sellout.
I don't know about that bro, Manny has a way of timing and countering his opponents jab. The jab is not the greatest weapon to use against him because he'll throw that left hand as you're throwing that jab. If you throw a weak jab he'll stun you with the straight left. If you sit on the jab and try to make it hurt the impact of Manny's counter left hand will get you even worse.
You need to turn Manny with the left hook to make him think twice about rushing in by using a good right hand to either the body or the head.
If you just throw jabs at him without feinting first, of course, he'll easily come under and over with with lead straight left/right hook counters. You're better off hitting him with counter jabs when he's turning. The bait/pawing jab is the best way to go. You have to make him bite on a few of your feints, then use a few bait/flicking jabs to momentarily stop his aggression, then follow up with a straight right upstairs or downstairs. You can still catch him with a few stiff scoring jabs here and there, but if you're constantly doing it round after round like Cotto did, then Manny will make you pay. A left hook counter is very effective as well.
http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/Dorelus2015/iMjknkfXuH2C4_zps915nocjh.gif
The noncommittal set-up jab is the best way to go against, Manny. Offensively, You can momentarily pause his aggression while setting up your offense upstairs and downstairs when he's backing up. Defensively, you can measure him with the lead hand and anticipate his sudden forward movement.