I UNDERSTAND why people think Sugar Ray was the GOAT

Speaking of SRR...check out this AWESOME tribute from Boxing Highlights C4TV (love the pic of him & Ali at the end who idolised him)...

I mean broner, lucas, hatton* were all considered dangerous at one point.... One point waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy before Pac got to them *May exposed him 1st.

Yes he did it was during one of Floyd's fights. Mosley was commentating. Prove it

Shane and Floyd were never . That's irrelevant and an excuse That didn't stop Floyd from dragging Marquez up two divisions in one fight Shane called him out

Yeah right and Marquez wasn't a welterweight You must be auditioning to be chief Floyd excuse boy Shane and Floyd were never in the lightweight division at the same time. Prove me wrong.

Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather were never at lightweight at the same time. Yeah right and Marquez wasn't a welterweight You must be auditioning to be chief Floyd excuse boy

Two different divisions. Lightweight has a weight limit of 135 lbs, for jr lightweight it is 130 lbs. Lol That's an excuse. Shane called Floyd out down there. Asked him if he planned on stepping up 5lbs and getting that smoke. I am quite sure the weight could have been negotiated if Floyd decided to step up. Floyd said no. That was the best version of both those guys in their prime. Winner would get full credit. It's funny how you Floyd boys love to say everybody was ducking Pretty Boy, but the excuses fly for all of his ducks

Lol. Jr Lightweight and Lightweight is what a Lightweight -------------------------------------- Two different divisions. Lightweight has a weight limit of 135 lbs, for jr lightweight it is 130 lbs. Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather were never at lightweight at the same time.

For sure but Manny's faced more quality opponents in their prime e.g. Bradley, Thurman, Cotto etc whereas Floyd has only really fought Hatton. Corrales also

Bro Floyd and manny have 5 shared opps with Floyd fighting 3/5 first so they’re either both too tactical matchmaking or both willing to take on most comers For sure but Manny's faced more quality opponents in their prime e.g. Bradley, Thurman, Cotto etc whereas Floyd has only really fought Hatton.

In fact Floyd didn’t move up to lightweight until 3 years after Mosley had left the division. Yeah all the fast sharp guys were gone by then Unless you want to count that will o the wisp Castillo

They were never lightweights at the same time. Lol. Jr Lightweight and Lightweight is what a Lightweight Any excuse to dismiss Shane calling him out first When Floyd was a full fledged welterweight he dragged Marquez up two weight classes from lightweight and wanted full credit Feel free to insert more Floyd excuses here: --------------------------------------

Gtfoh they were both lightweights and the fact remains Shane called him out. Asked Floyd to come up 1 division and get that smoke. Floyd came up with some crap about trying to break Monzon's title defense streak. Yeah ok Sound like he moved up when he knew the coast was clear They were never lightweights at the same time. Fact. In fact Floyd didn’t move up to lightweight until 3 years after Mosley had left the division.

yet the moderns lift and became bigger anyways there must be a functional strength benefit from hitting the weights Yeah, it makes you FEEL like you're doing something. Teddy Atlas talks about this all the time, how the obsession with weight training has ruined the sport.

LOL, I know you're joking, but I do have to state for any youngns out there that Robinson started his career at 125-1 with the 1 being Jake Lamotta, who he fought at 160lbs, in spite of being 147lbs during the fight. Literally none of that has anything to do with winning fights in boxing, If bodybuilding made you great, Anthony Joshua & Frank Bruno would be GOATsyet the moderns lift and became bigger anyways there must be a functional strength benefit from hitting the weights

sugar ray robinson lost 19 times...floyd didnt lose 19 rounds his entire career! not sure he lost any but a couple debatable ones i guess LOL, I know you're joking, but I do have to state for any youngns out there that Robinson started his career at 125-1 with the 1 being Jake Lamotta, who he fought at 160lbs, in spite of being 147lbs during the fight. Spray_resistantold school fighters who didn't lift weights at all were tiny. Sugar Robinson fought at middleweight and only had a 36.5" chest, 15.5" neck, 11.5" fists, and a 29" waist and 20" thighs as a blubbery 40 year old man. I'd be extremely undersized at middleweight but have similar dimensions doing only casual calisthenics for 15 mins a day Small Welters Floyd & manny have bigger dimensions than Middleweight King Sugar Robinson. lifting weights for bulk changed the game From religious use of neck brace weights Floyd has a huge 16.5" neck on his small 5 ft 8 ectomorph frame. Big neck contributed to his iron chin hero Buff Guy BBC Adonis Joshua the GigaTyrone Of Boxing are included for an idea of how big the SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS are. He has an 18" neck. Iron Chin Hero Mike Tyson neck monstrosity was rumored to be 20" {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/scontent-sea5-1.xx.fbcdn.net\/v\/t1.6435-9\/94022116_3001017056624466_373106570667491328_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=GanWa4NPKaAQ7kNvwF4AMJo&_nc_oc=AdkgrFAKd2VMVlH0Be5-v09d9PzYY8r9EejtEKxmFtyb_dAmbtkbdfKE6Hys7D3jh2CimjmQnXzjaw1cRk-8ofQz&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-sea5-1.xx&_nc_gid=3k7c9kZmyUYNA-IfNWwrsg&oh=00_AfrJwPnPCq3aiYUh09VQEKl8UD7WCNqR7Q9aMu-JPYM9Qg&oe=6998C7FA"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net\/v\/t39.30808-6\/486174756_10236148341271458_644825760066908874_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=F-3ndZwcc6QQ7kNvwG8zX3V&_nc_oc=Adm1UKmgqj4KKIeHBACVonfvgpgtnQAHd-tFrGaiDa6w7x4qnanIg8VyxvZPFPx2HH2EiztOwru3eRfmPnRaKYYx&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=A5-h9RFVnxhRDswMMqNLWw&oh=00_AfoxUdvpgLiQUoWkOKDtFdqRGWo9vesdBr4HVdCogdMAFA&oe=697724E2"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.josportsinc.com\/cdn\/shop\/products\/1222179780_940x.jpg?v=1599613982"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/s.turbifycdn.com\/aah\/yhst-13159482790260\/1960-paul-pender-vs-sugar-ray-robinson-vintage-boxing-photograph-tale-of-the-tape-27.gif"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.si.com\/.image\/t_share\/MTY4MTkxMjY1ODY0ODg2MTcz\/image-placeholder-title.jpg"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/stilldrops.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/pacquiaovcotto-tale-of-d-tape.jpg?w=640"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/i.pinimg.com\/736x\/bb\/70\/53\/bb7053e1a0f32f685d964f9b112d6a4f.jpg"} {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2017\/04\/29\/02\/3FB8E7D200000578-4457102-Anthony_Joshua_consumes_4_500_to_5_000_calories_a_to_fuel_his_da-m-9_1493430550114.jpg"} Literally none of that has anything to do with winning fights in boxing, If bodybuilding made you great, Anthony Joshua & Frank Bruno would be GOATs

Floyd always got excuse to not fight the people best qualified to best him. So why floyd not fight thurman, bradley, brook, khan, spence, bud, etc etc guys in his own division? Floyd was a walking excuse He ducked a hot welterweight division for 2 years, those guys beat up each other and Floyd excuse was his hands was hurtin

I don't want to turn this into another Pacquiao vs. Mayweather discussion (this thread is about SRR), however, given Mayweather's track record of only fighting top opposition after they've suffered multiple losses e.g. Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, DLH, Mosley etc., I DON'T believe Mosley was the one who stalled the fight. Bro Floyd and manny have 5 shared opps with Floyd fighting 3/5 first so they’re either both too tactical matchmaking or both willing to take on most comers How did a thread about Ray Robinson become "muh Pac and Floyd" again?because of the recent greats they’re the only two close to Sugar Robinson in achievements Mythical Mayweather is top 10 all time Legendary manny is top 15 all time TBud is somewhere between Floyd and manny in ability but has only max 2 hof opps which includes ONE all time great similar stories with Naoya and Oleksandr

How did a thread about Ray Robinson become "muh Pac and Floyd" again?

Shane Mosley did not officially call out Floyd Mayweather Yes he did it was during one of Floyd's fights. Mosley was commentating. They were both lightweights. Shortly thereafter ring mag put both on the cover to hype it. Shane wasn't over the hill enough at that point