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You know, I didn't appreciate Oscar and rooted against him when he was still fighting. But, my goodness, do I miss him now. The man really was something special. I hope he's doing well.

What in the hell did I just read? I was all into the story and then BAM! I'm pretty sure I'm going to have nightmares.

Seems like your run ended once you faced stiffer competition, it's okay. Atleast you got further than your cupboard. "stiffer competition" LOL!!!!!

This seems like his way of saying he's done. I hope not though. I hope its a stunt. How long does he have left in the contract with TR? Does he have a fight date scheduled in the Fall? If not, is there even a tentative date? And lastly, has Arum commented on this yet?

first post Being that the source is twitter, I'm just going to continue to go through my days as though both fighters actually want to fight each other. It helps me sleep at night. The mere thought of this fight falling through induces migraines. Seriously though, this fight needs to happen. Personally, this is my second most anticipated fight behind the "unicorn"(May vs. Pac). Hell, I'd even pay for this fight. Glad I don't have to though. Background Info on me (Pretty much useless info) Hello, my name is Chris and I love boxing. Although, this is my first post, I've been reading these forums for years. Previously, I have intended to post an opinion or a comment but I would usually agree with another poster and change my mind. This site has taught me that there is so much more to boxing than I thought and I am happy to finally be part of the conversation. I got into boxing by accident when I was in the 4th or 5th grade. I was flipping channels scanning for a my cartoons (I was a Fox Kid. Xmen etc) when I stopped on a replay of Holyfield vs. Bowe 2. Let's just say I asked for boxing gloves for Christmas that year. I also have amateur boxing experience. I won a fight night bout(smoker), then I fought in the TX Golden Gloves in 2008 @ 152lbs. I went 2-1. Lost in the final on points. So, I sport a 3-1 amateur record. I tried to mimic Juan Manuel Marquez. Of course, I looked nothing like him in the ring haha. My favorite fighters include: (in no particular order) Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Tito Trinidad, Roy Jones Jr., Shane Mosley, Manny Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Erislandy Lara, Rigo, Gamboa, JM Marquez. AND...Floyd Mayweather Jr. I love to hate him. He provides boxing with a great villain and I anticipate his fights much like the Super Bowl. I'm sure I'm missing a few people, anyway if you read this far then thanks, I appreciate it.

One of my favorite fights in fight night champion. Tyson v. W klit I dig the occassional tyson thread. As far as excitement, Tyson all the way. Tyson Stand-Up was absolutely hilarious.

pretty cool, pretty cool!

I saw a pretty even, competitive fight. It could have gone either way. My brother who is a HUGE Mayweather fan said that he felt Floyd lost by one round. And I generally agree with his scoring. However, I didn't score the fight intently like he did. There were some extremely close rounds that could have gone either way. All in all, I feel like we all won tonight. What a great fight. Hopefully, we get a rematch.

I really wish I could read the actual contract but from what it looks like from all the press (and if Im not missing anything), Mayweather would breach his contract if he chose not to fight. If the Commission approved the MX gloves, and Maidana chose to wear those gloves, then Maidana has done nothing to breach the contract. Now, if Mayweather wants Maidana to wear the Grant gloves, that would mean he is trying to modify the existing contract. All he has to do is provide adequate consideration ($money$) to Maidana. Only then, would it be acceptable for Maidana to enter the ring with anything other than the Commission approved Everlast MX gloves. Also, generally, there are no punitive damages in contracts cases. So, Floyd's not going to be facing any other damages than what Maidana was contracted to make, that plus an equitable estimate of the rest (International TV rights and such). Pretty much, I really really wish we could read the actual contract.

This fight comes down to weight. Canelos size might be too much at a higher weight not to mention the exrta weight would slow Manny down. At a lower weight Saul comes in weight drained and gets picked apart. I could not agree more. I can't imagine manny coming in heavier than 151-2lbs.

The only reason why I picked Mayweather is because he can prove that he chose to fight in the pocket against Chino. May said the same thing about Cotto, that he chose to bang it out with Cotto rather than rack up points from the outside. We never got confirmation in a rematch. However, the rematch against Chino gives May the opportunity to prove it. Why bang it out with Chino if you can box him from the outside and rack up a comfortable lead? OR Was it that Chino did not give Mayweather a choice? So far, I take Mayweather's word. There's really nothing else you can do. It's hard to refute Mayweather with that record.

You know, I read this thread thinking I was going to read a whole bunch of hate but WOW I feel like I just took a class. I've always been a little shaky on odds. I need to go through this thread again. Good stuff. I'm not really too surprised on 14-1. Wont the odds tighten up as the fight gets closer? Thanks!

No way, that's too low for Maidana. 157 should be the target if Garcia wants him lighter and faster. Rehydrate 10 pounds, nothing less. Exactly what I was thinking. Make it an even 10 pound cut and I think he'd be good. Chino needs to focus on cardio cardio cardio! Get a bigger gas tank! Everybody and their mother knows that Mayweather is going to come into this rematch breathing fire! Chino better be ready to go a full 12 rounds, con ganas!

Maidana's team should completely cut off all communication with TMT after the commission approves the MX gloves. Just grab the gloves and bounce. Don't even pay any attention whatsoever to the crying. That takes care of the situation completely. Then Floyd would have to come up with something to not get in the ring, to not be in breach of contract. Like fainting in the dressing room or something. On another note, I have a hard time believing that the glove situation was not covered before the contracts were signed. We'll see.

Yes the odds will tighten closer to the fight. If you want to bet on Algeiri, now would be the best time to do so They say sharp gamblers bet early and bet late If this thing opens up with -1400/+800, I think there's probably some value in betting on Algeri. The odds will probably move to something around the +650 area. But I'd keep it small. There's not a chance in hell he's winning a decision, imo. I see. Good stuff fellas, thanks so much. I'll keep an eye on this. Great thread to learn this stuff.

Such a good memory! You don't forget many things, do you? Well, I actually do remember. I was trying to be cordial. By beginning with "I could be mistaken but..." allows one to keep it positive. Considering, I could have read a false report and the other person could be completely right. It's a great way to be cordial and present an opposing position. These boards can be extremely confrontational. And to answer your question: Yes I do! haha I have a terrible memory! :-)

Ok, we can speculate then. But the fact remains that both he and his manager said they didn't get any monetary compensation. Yes, sir. They did say that. Okay I'm going to take a break. This coffee has got me going a million miles an hour. haha

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1858712659/5pairs-lot-free-shipping-2014-new-design-font-b-Inflatable-b-font-font-b-boxing-b.jpg We got ya commission approved gloves right here, baby! HAHA! Good stuff!

great interview. "I don't hit that hard." haha yes you do Chino. I think it's interesting that Chino claimed he wasn't paid anything to switch gloves. The only way to modify an existing contract is with valuable consideration (that which the promisor asked for and received, usually money). If Chino would have stuck to his guns and refused to switch and Mayweather refused to fight, Mayweather would have breached his contract. I have a hard time believing Chino got nothing to switch Commission approved gloves. In all fairness, I'm happy (if) Chino got paid. (I'm pretty sure he did, but I wasn't personally involved so I don't know for sure.) So, Chino should do it again. If I was Chino I'd say MX for life!…unless you offer me an outrageous amount of money, then Powerlock for life! haha

It's not speculation. Chino said it himself. The speculation comes from a possible disclosure agreement between the two parties. Chino saying that he didn't receive any money does not eliminate the fact that he may have received something. I do take Chino's word though. If he said that he didn't receive any money for the switch, then what else is there to do than believe him? I just sincerely hope he received something of value. It was a strong position for negotiation at the time.

I think its fair to assume Maidana definitely got paid for th glove switch. If it happened my guess is his team and ellerbee made a deal so he could have plausible deniability. What team wouldn't take $1.5 mil to wear gloves. But maybe we should take him at his word. You're absolutely right on your points and there isn't a team on this planet that would NOT take that deal. It's a deal of a lifetime. What a great position to find yourself in right before your biggest payday already. "Oh you want to pay me more?"-type of thing. Very good for Chino. And Money May is awesome too. May didn't want to get hit by those gloves so he (presumably) paid him handsomely to fight in the foam gloves. That's good business right there. Everybody's happy. However, I will take his word. It's really as far as we can go with the "conspiracy theories". Chino may very well have asked for something else.

Let the conspiracies begin. You said it!!! I love this stuff.

u never said that but u agree to it right? or do u feel stuff like that should be made public to let everyone knows how much he was paid? and please look at this without floyd being in the picture. I think it should be completely up to the parties making the deal. If they want to keep it under wraps, then they should be entitled to that. I'm not exactly sure how that works , as far as legally, but I imagine I'll run into that sooner or later. I know you didn't ask me directly and I hope you don't mind me chiming in. I just thought it was a really good question. :-)

He is lying like espinoza when he says floyd's fights are profitale. the only way I see Maidana truly not receiving a dime for switching the gloves is if he asked for something other than money (a guaranteed rematch maybe..who knows.) It's possible. I just don't see Maidana and his team just submitting like that, when it was a great opportunity to get something out of it. Surely, Chino has somebody watching his back. "So, you don't want me to use the gloves that the commission just approved? Okay, well, what will you give me to switch?" It could (should) have gone something like that. If I was on Chino's team, that's what I would have done. And I don't know crap. I'm just a 2L. Imagine what his real deal lawyer would have done.

I don't see how it changes anything. He still wasn't allowed to wear his gloves whether he was paid or not. I could be mistaken but didn't the commission approve one of the MX pairs? At least that's what I remember reading. Hell, that is where this whole topic stems from. If the commission did not approve ALL of the MX gloves then that changes the situation completely. But, if the commission approved at least one of the MX pairs presented, then we find ourselves back here. All in all, it probably turned out to be a good situation for both Mayweather and Chino. If the money given is true, then everybody won. Personally, I don't think gloves win you fights. I am just enjoying the finer details of the situation. It's fun to discuss. :-)

Soooooo, ole Lacy thought he was fighting DeVito and Arnold showed up. :liar: http://www.twogomers.com/podcasts/2014/05/twins1.jpg bwahahahahaha This is the first time iv'e ever heard of anything like this happening. Crazy.

Thank you much Bringer!

I dont know about comfortably. But yes i think he has the skill to win. However this fight will never happen. But i certainly feel he could earn another robbery. if it ever did happen.

Whenever NSB hears something they don't want to hear they just make up and believe whatever they wanted to actually hear :lol1:. If they all spam it agreeing with each other, it means it is true. I don't know about all of NSB but this thread is really just fun speculation. There is nothing concrete and really doesn't prove a thing. In fact I hope the speculation is wrong about Chino not receiving a dime. The man should have been paid or given something. But, I know what you mean. Some people could take some of this stuff as fact. All they (posters) really need to do is actually read all of the posts. This thread has gone in some good directions.

Wow...here you go...I agree and this fight steals cinco de mayo hands down.. Warrrrrr Cotto Puneta...... PRPP:boxing: I agree. This super fight would be hard to beat. I still expect Canelo to try and take May back. This is going to get really interesting.