DLH had no choice to come down to 147 because Pac was not moving up to 154.
hey retard stop twisting it. it was DLH's choice, not that he had NO choice. he chased PAC, it was his stipulation. oskie was 151 even before his training camp started. fact.
so you're saying DLH had a choice to have the fight at 154 and instead decided to fight at WW?
he'd be laughed at by the boxing world. luring pac 19lbs more higher from LW where he had only ONE fight? LOL. that's what made him do it. stop twisting it that pac made him do it.
i think caballero's workrate will trouble juanma late to a UD if juanma doesnt close the show early. if yordan was busier the fight wouldve been close.
Dude, what is your f*cking problem? Did you ever notice that the only people who have replied on this thread have actually read the article? I only listed those parts because those were most interesting parts of the article. Some people may not want to read the article because it's pretty long. And what else am I gonna list positive that not everyone already knows? The article basically shows that Pacquiao is human after all and that his personality shown to the public is basically media based.
Your pactardism shows through and through in your tagalog post right here. I love Manny, he's my favorite fighter by far, but I don't go riding his dick like you. The writer of the article shows that despite Manny's shady connections and the madness that's around him he still can't help but like Manny.
ulol sino niloko mo nagmamalinis ka pa. ano agenda mo sa pagpili lang ng mga masasamang bagay sa kahaba habang article ha kupal ha? tanginaka wala na kaming nabasang maganda sayo kungdi paninira mo sa kapwa pinoy leche.
I don't know if this has been posted on here before.
Read this GQ profile on Manny, it's pretty interesting, pretty long (7 pages) but it's pretty addicting after the first page.
http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201004/manny-pacquiao-boxer
Some notes from the GQ profile:
- Article is written before the Clottey bout.
- When Ariza and Roach kept saying that Koncz "cuts Manny's meat" on 24/7, they weren't lying at all. Koncz actually cuts Manny's steak for him. He even tucks him into bed.
- Manny loves watching himself in between rounds at the MGM on the big screens so much that Roach has to slap him at times.
- Pacquiao's dad left when he was a baby. One day, when Manny was a boy, his dad came back for a few hours to eat his dog and left again.
- He left home when he was young because he knew his mom had too many mouths to feed.
- If Manny was considered a hero in the Philippines, his circle of friends would be considered villains: the Ampatuan family (hated his political rival so much he ordered his son to take him out and anybody "with him". That day 57, including 30 journalists were killed) or Chavit Singson, a political figure who found his mistress with a younger man and obliterated his penis with a hammer.
- Many people on Pacquiao's team have stolen a substantial amount of money from Manny himself only for Manny to forgive them because he believed that God told those people to betray him so he can teach them a lesson.
- It costs around $500-$700 per day to eat at Nat's Thai restaurant near the Wild Card gym. When one of Manny's associates told him that they should just buy some Filipino take-out to lessen the financial load, Manny grew angry and told him in front of everybody, "Don't ever mess with another man's livelihood. Now let us enjoy their food."
- The people around Pacquiao are actually scared of him. They're afraid to tell him stuff they believe may agitate him. An example includes when Manny was supposed to throw out the first pitch at a Dodgers game. All the details were ironed out. The problem was that Manny never came because no one ever told him.
It's a hugely interesting read and shows Manny in a positive and not-so-positive light.
tang'na ka ano ba agenda mo talaga. magbibigay ka ng article link tapos pipiliin mo mga pangit or hindi maganda dun at yun lang ililista mo. so shempre yan lang babasahin ng mga ugok dito e at dyan lang magrereact, kasi sabi mo ang haba ng article kakatamad basahin. wag ka na nga uling makapagsabi na pinoy ka hindot ka leche.
ill wait for a flomo to bash the wbc for creating the diamond belt and see what he posted in the other thread regarding floyd collecting only wbc belts becuase it is THE belt among all belts.
Oh I see now... I look for ward to Cotto knocking Lucian Bute's ass out when he moves up. His strength will definitely be greater as he won't have to cut weight to make 147bs anymore. Nice!
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are you trying to make it that simple for you benefit? good job.
No it was you that made it very simple be teaching me that when a fighter moves up in weight... he knocks everybody out easy.
I would advise all fighters to simply jump up 2-3 divisions and knock everyone out for glory.
We can call it the Pacquaio theory.
no moron you asked about how he was stronger and i gave you the explanation. whether that translates equally to knocking ppl the fukk out is your assumption. but i guess all other factors that contribute to a KO is very hard for you to comprehend so you make it simple by following this retarded equation, greater power=KO everytime.
Is it HBO?
not sure if its the same but i was vacationing back in manila during the pac-hatton fight and they showed it in the theaters too back there, it wasn't HBO but there were still announcers/commentators just cant remember who. oh they weren't pinoy either.
Hey genius... You FAILED to realize that I did NOT make an issue as to what Manny weighed back then. I could give 2 ****s if he was 150lbs. My point was the OBVIOUS strength that was NOT there on this level BEFORE his STEROID use.
Sorry that you base your entire sense of self worth on 1 man from the P.I.
But don't be such a battered wife in your defense of that bucket headed shady ass PEDs lover. ARIZA bitches... the king of roids. **** outta here with that bs.
if you look closely at your post you'll find your answer. the reason he's stronger is he didnt have to cut much weight during training now. he eats what he wants, whenever, wherever and still make weight compared back then.
LMAO at Pactards. They cant refute what he says, they only got
"He is jelous of the Pacman"
"He is a guido"
"Khan Will KHTFO"
How about to refute what he says you bunch of fruit cakes!!!!!
alrite i will. so burritos must have steroids too. them eaters i see here in newyork have bigheads too.
TS and followers a bunch of retards. i was able see the later ali yrs and his charisma at that time is nowhere near the hate floyd is getting from the press. sure he has his haters too because of his trashtalk but he backed it up and he shut them up.
Comparing Floyd to Hearns and Leonard, who both were huge welterweights? Floyd is smarter than them, both of those guys talk punchy, what did they get for all their bravado, nothing more than memories and talk around the barber shop. Im sure they wish they had been smarter and more defensive in the ring if you ask them now.
what do you mean what did they get? they've gotten more respect in the boxing world and higher ATG status because of it and even w/o the juvenile insecure trashtalk.
no but being wobbled at least twice to former lightweight Juan Lazcano gave us a strong indication that his best days may have been left in the ring Dec 2008
to follow your logic, once you get wobbled you're past it, yeah right. it wasnt a pretty fight for hatton, but it was a very wide UD for him too.
potshotting? floyd had shane hurt a couple times but decided to keep working seemed intelligent to me. no way was may scared when shanes face read total defeat..give some respect.
you said it. shane's face read total defeat and floyd just kept on only the potshots and counters. scared to mix it up. same w/ jmm. scared from a hailmary from a bloated featherweight.
good win. it couldve been greater. mosley gassed out since the midrounds and there for the taking and still floyd too scared to mix it up a bit. was just contented on potshottin to a UD.
nothing new though, he was even scared of hailmary from a bloated featherweight.
Now you telling how speed needs to be used? LOL, I know how it needs to be used bro, believe that.
Zab was probably the fastest fighter that Mayweather has faced, simple as that. Manny hasn't faced anyone with handspeed as fast as Zab.
it doesnt matter though is judah is that fast if he cant used that speed effectively, pac will still whup him much worse than floyd did at 147.
but if this thread is all about handspeed w/o its effectiveness then it's a retarded one. there were are a lot of fast fighters pac fought at the lower weights. were they effective? i guess not.
Shane's hand speed > Barrera's hand speed
yeah 5-10yrs ago shane was fast. saturday night he looked eveidently slower than the mexican trio :lol1: if you didnt see that you're totally biased or havent watched mab's prime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBOsoIWDgyo
Still faster than Barrera here if you ask me
wow good example. against the 'really quick' margarito :lol1:
remember pac-diaz? pac was like superman there because of the much slower diaz.
I've seen Barrera fight in his prime. Not even for a second did I think he was faster than Shane.
Marquez has far from elite hand speed
he wasnt faster than shane prime for prime. but the shane saturday night was slower compared to mab in prime. it was obvious his looping punches were telegraphed.
and how far would elite hand speed carry you if you are not effective? and can you name me these fighters w/ elite handspeed aside from pac and floyd that they fought that became great?
Wow what a great comeback.
Are you retarded? The only fighters that have agreed to mannys catch weighs are top rank fighters :dunce:.
fighters? you mean only one, cotto. pac has only been in ONE catchweight fight.
and i dont know how credible is this thread that kept flomos here babbling but there isnt even a link to the story. and for fukks sake if there was, it was arum not pac. pac is busy campaigning, didnt even watch the fight last saturday live.
Some of you guys have to be illiterate or something. I am not asking who had the fastest hands in Pacquiao's resume, I am asking has he fought someone with great handspeed? Marquez, Barreara, and DLH did NOT have great handspeed. Do you guys know what having fast hands is? I don't think you do.
really whats ur point? just to isolate handspeed? there are a lot of bums w/ quick handspeed that never make it to the top. judah is fast, but is he good? he turned into a bum when he faced someone just as fast like floyd or someone w/ decent quickness but very effective like cotto.
to busy campaigning to watch the fight? He didn't watch the fight but said he would of knocked mayweather out in the 2nd...I don't usually get into these pissing matches..but just like floyd, manny is full of sh*t if he thinks we believe him or floyd don't tune in.
havent you heard or tivo, dvrs or replays?