as perversed as an idea this may be, im gonna say no.
dun think i wanna see anyone up against a gorilla not even valuev, u guys not seen what a chimpanzee can do 2u a person , nevermind a gorilla,
tyson vs a kangaroo. now i mite pay for that.
this is the fight game dudes.
if jmm can do it, why cant Bradley?
anybody can produce a KO in this game, given the right circumstances.
So yes Bradley can KO Pacquiao.
Only fl0mos will believe what comes out of Ellerbe's mouth.
365 testing really Leonard?
He means they may have a few fighters that take the test. One fighter may take tests jan-feb. Then another fighter will be taking tests march-april etc. So a number of different individual fighters there are taking test during different times of the year. Normal protocol is around 2 months up until the fight.
There are not a single fighter at mayweather promotions that take usada test 365. Not even Floyd.
I was in the gym with him while training that fight and the Morales fight the answer is no, he was not drained at all for either of those fights and I have read pactards posting this **** to and its disgusting how far they will take things.
However what was going on during Marquez and Morales was Mannys promoter Murad Muhammud and Manny were at odds Murad wanted to get Manny away from Freddy, and Freddy advised Manny to seek legal help because he believed Murad was ripping him off.
For three camps in a row this **** went on, Marquez Battery and Morales Murad was sending people up to the gym daily to not just make sure manny was on track no sir, but to make sure Freddy didnt talk business to him and that Freddy just remained as a trainer.
There were tons of distractions in the gym, as hundreds of Filipino fans would show up to watch him train which is cool and all but Manny spent just as much time taking pictures signing autograps as he did training. all while Murad had some of his thugs up there keeping a close eye, i mean it was so busy there you couldnt even find a place to put your gym bag down it was insane no parking and really no room to work.
you could see it in the gym he was clearly distracted especially when he took Murad to court, as it was proven that Murad was ripping him off infact Murads people accidently gave Mannys attorneys the evidence that he and another promoter were ripping him off.
Israel Vazquez was whipping his ass in sparring going into the Marquez and Morales fights you just knew **** wasnt right...
But to answer the over all question no he was not drained for either fight and distractions do happen they are no excuses they just do happen however its your job as a fighter to not allow it to be a factor.
true this^ i was there too, you're not justin fortune r u??? lol! how's fortune gym going? :439:
but... he was weight drained. its true. pac even had trouble making 135 vs diaz, even straight after the fight he said to roach, he aint killing himself to make 135 no more. :bottle:
I ain't arguing about anything bro, I feel the fight was fixed period. I'm not changing my mind. The blowup with Merchant to top it off is what really convinced me. I would have liked to hear the interview to have a better opinion. It seemed wwe ish to me. IMO.
victory was fixed maybe, the ko looked legit. maybe ortiz didnt try to get up cus he knew he was gonna get his ass tapped for the remainder of the fight.
heartless ortiz.
floyd had every right to go for that ko, was not scripted, but if someone told u about it and u didnt watch the fight u wud had easily believed them.
ortiz deserved to get ktfo, what the fuk was that flying headbutt about? lol ortiz made tim bradley's continuous headbutts look like accidentals.
yeh although the finish from floyd was classless, ortiz deserved to lose in that manner, the guy was fighting like an amatuer , completely out of his depth and he knew he was very lucky to be given the chance to fight floyd.
I dont know
Im just pissed i ordered another dumbass PPV, which is the 3rd this year, all of which sucked
I didnt like Ortiz looking happy after getting KO'd and FLoyd not answering Merchants questions like a PMSing biitch
2 million dollars, for 4 rounds,. hardly bruised.
ul be smiling too hahaha!
NO way Ortiz was out
I wouldnt expect anyone to get up from that. His body was completely limp and he wasnt looking at FLoyd and was just sucker punched by 2 bombs on the chin
yeh maybe true but the look on ortiz face, told me he was glad it was over. rather than sad to had been ko'd.
thats says everything about the boy. it is true what they say about him being heartless for the fight. he aint got the killing streak to be a top fighter. i mean how many fighters has he knocked down and fail to finnish? too many. i think ortiz is too nice of a guy to be a real fighter.
If he's so damn overrated, then why do the top 2 pfp fighters refuse to say his name for a match at 154? Since he's so damn overrated.
Pacman going 12 against a shot 40 year old Mosley was not a pfp performance.
Why did Floyd resort to 2 cheap shots in a fairly competitive fight against a 24 year old?
I hope that 1 of those #1 & 2 decide to grow some nutts & meat Martinez at 154 to see what's really up.
Ps. Darren Barker was clearly a better fighter than we all thought. Give the man some credit, instead of trying to discredit Martinez.
what a stupid thread from a typical flomo again lol probably because the two top p4p fighters are best at 147 not 154
which part of that do u not understand.
why dont u pray for martinez to grow sum balls and n come down to 147 if he's so underated lol :bottle:
How can he go out there and try to convince us boxing purists that beating JMM at 147 is worth a damn?
I mean, come on. JMM looked horrible against Floyd, and has never had a fight at 140.....
They kill Floyd (who I dont like) but they want to praise Pac?
The sport is assed backwards.
dude u butt hurt cus Roach is all over manny's dick and aint got no time for yr glass jawed fraud? lol
get in line, , khan is just another bucket holder for pac n another Roach's dispensible sparring partner for pac. truth hurts :bottle:
All the proof in the world will not help the "Willingly Blind" to see, it's a choice that they've madeto ignore facts and video proof.
It's a losing battle trying to show these people truths.....
^ and this is coming from a "blind man leading the blind" :popcorn:
hahahah sounds like visionquest are real p1ssed cus manny didnt pay them lol.
this thing dun make sense. what? koncz and arum stealing money from manny, but it says there clearly it was koncz and manny who reached out to visionquest to investigate his financial health.
koncz works for arum, yet he and manny reached out to visionquest to investigate themselves??? hahaha
think that flomo ben thompson from floydhype must have come from the school of the some kind of Mayweather Journalism College lol :beerchug:
If VisionQwest put out a statement on paper that is telling lies, then Manny will sue them..right?
manny has CLEARLY demonstrated that he will sue anyone who defames him....right?
hahahaha u mad?? :bottle:
How's that mad?
You are implying that VQ is lying... then we await the lawsuit.
Right?
keep waiting then retard lol
visionquest makes statesment that sum of manny pacquao financial documents are not quite right and unorganised and , wow!!!!!!!
yes sure , sue their assess!!!! lol :stickp4:
he hasnt slipped too much, maybe his stamina and mostly hunger, just his opponents since magarito have been boxing instead of trading with him. any good fighter who choose to box will look good vs pacman, cus he cant cut ring off to save his life.
watch pac vs cotto , first few rounds when cotto wanted to box, pacman cudnt get near him, then he went mano a mano and ****ed up.
mosley decided to box/run after realising he cant trade with pacman, pacman cuddnt do ****.
bradley same.
He posted this on Facebook about 7 minutes ago..
fooking stupid post by jacobs, if fighters go through all that **** n still struggle to make weight, that aint because of bad nutrition and bad knowledge,
thats cus that somebody is fighting in the wrong weight class.
move up!
wtf does any of that have to do with ariza?? did linares ran out of gas mid way point of the fight????? did khan ran out of gas also?? and pac won so no comment there.
u ****ing dumb?
linares got stopped by a featherfisted bum, yes khan did gas, and pac only won....
in your eyes. lol
u can add chavez looking like **** aswell
Stop hating on the man. He obviously does his job well.
Look at his work in Public schools , fitness programs and the olympic teams. There's nothing dirty on Ariza, he's just a great conditioning coach that loves his job.
He even worked with the Filipino olympic team for free.
bull**** he's a self promoting con artist.
look at all his recent fighters, linares got ko'd, pac lost to jmm, khan lost to peterson. i rest my case lol
if he was giving out peds all his fighters would be invincible, also khan is taking random blood test for his next fight with peterson so i rule out the ped bull****.
in terms ariza being this super conditioner coach,. thats all bull****, he's just riding off the name of pacquiao, thats it. pac would would have been just as good if not better without this joke coach fraud ariza.
i bet its a test that found unusual testosterone level, which doesnt really determine which specific substance in use, but it does tell the testers that some sh1t is wrong.
I always had a feeling both Lamont and Bradley heavily used peds. How dirty is this guy Lamont Peterson? Fixing score cards, and roiding as well? I hope Khan gets his belts back.
hahahha we need to test that man with the hat, he's the dealer as well i bet. maybe a dirty pimp as b1tch that works with peterson back from the streets