Isn't Cotto fighting at 160 now? So if they fight it would be for TBE's 154 belt right? I don't understand how anyone could really want to see this rematch. Everyone is trying to stack up the crads on TBE, why not have him fight a HW too.. Come on guys get real TBE fight from 147 to 154 and 154 isn't even his perfered weight class. Lets say he does rematch Cotto again and beats him again, the excuse will be the weight. How come nobody is calling for Pacman VS Cotto, Pacman VS Canelo...Thats is some real hater stuff!!!!!!!!
Not saying GGG is not a good fighter but really WHO has he fought?
Name me 1 good fighter that he has fought.. David Lemieux, Willie Monroe, Martin Murray, Rubio, Geale... Come on man...He has fought level c fighters and is getting all this hype??? Don't tell me that he has cleaned out his division either.. If that was the case he should move up. The only fights he really has that might showcase his real skill is against Cotto or Canelo... IMO, GGG is a good fighter knocking out bums!!!!!!
Fighting hand picked guy at the beginning of your career and racking up wins does not make you a HOFer... He is just starting to fight good competition... SO your answer is NO. He still has a way to go...
Just look at the punch stats.. Mayweather was more accurate and landed more punches. His connect rate was much much better then Manny's. You got to hit the target and Manny could not do that..
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You cannot deny greatness!!!
This is what happens when you talk too much... Khan has no dance partner that can produce some cash, so he is forced to fight Brooks... I hope Brooks knocks him out cold!!!!!!!!!
Everything is easy until you get punched in the face or the liver. I'd like to see how you handle a few shots in the face, maybe you could move around a bit and then take another shot to the liver.. Then repost your question goof...
I would like to know what you are looking for when you watch a boxing match??
Mayweather has adjusted to being the smaller man , the lighter man, the older man. He has adjusted to being in there with the brawler, the boxer ect. We have seen him box and hold his own in the pocket.
There is no style that he has not seen and been up against.
The point is not for TBE to change his style, the point is for the challenger to make TBE change his style which 49 boxer have not been able to do.
This is why he gets so much props.. He has been able to impose his will against all comers and they have not been able to adjust to his style.
Watch some more fights little grasshopper.
Looks like we have some UFC fans in here!!!
Boxing is an art and Mayweather is the Leonardo in the sport.
So many people have tried to solve his puzzle and can't.
Check Boxrec and you will see the competition he has faced.
Any true boxing fan and I mean a fan that actually knows about boxing will understand why Mayweather is in a class of his own...
I don't know how your able to talk let alone type with those Klit nuts in your mouth. Vladischump has got to be the worst person writing stuff on this site. I shouldn't waste my time even writing this but you really deserve a pizza face.!!!!!!!!
First you had Diva turning down a 50/50 shot against Wlad and Vitaly. Then you had Povetkin turn down a $2.5 million shot. Then you had a shot and bankrupt Tua turn down the highest payday he has had in years. Mormeck decided it would be better to get gift decisions against journeymen in front of hometown crowds rather than face Wlad. Adamek would rather face Madalonne and Grant. Now you got fat boy Solis trying to say he doesn't care about the money and will fight for free yet at the same time complaining about the highest payday of his life. The Klitschkos turned all these top fighters into punks, even Mike Tyson in his prime never had anyone turn down a payday against him.
If all these fighters were confident of their chances why would they squabble over a couple of dollars when victory over the Klitschkos is sure to bring in many more lucrative fights. It's not the Klitschkos that have to make concessions, they are the recognized Kings of the HW mountain that have ruled it for the entire decade. If someone wants to take them down, they have to want and not just talk about it and then run away when it's time to sign the contract.
How come everytime negotation are in process all the opppnents for the brothers say the same thing??? Why do they all scream that the brothers are making unreasonable demands...If 1 guy says it then he might be just talking but this is becoming a common occurance....
Maybe Haye's "excuse" of the Klitschko's giving him dodgy contracts is true.
Just a thought.
How come everytime negotation are in process all the opppnents for the brothers say the same thing??? Why do they all scream that the brothers are making unreasonable demands...If 1 guy says it then he might be just talking but this is becoming a common occurance....
Come on Man!!!!!!!!
No one cares what may demands are,he doest have the same pull like he used and why should Canelo bend to may demands when he is a future money maker and will be the new ppv king and sell more ppv then may ever did. If of course he keeps winning
You have got to be kidding me!! Who has the most PPV buys for the last few years? Who is the highest paid athelete as per FORBES.??? Your talking about Canelo in the future??? Let talk about right now!!!!!!! Canelo can't even lace up Mays boots bro.... If the young redhead wants it then he needs to come and see May at 147 or even be willing to go there.. He is standing firm at 154, he has no negotiation power here, he is not the man.. Maybe he will be when May is gone but for now he has to take a back seat and conform to the MAN!!!!!!
"You're going to criticize me and say, 'You're doing the same thing that Pacquiao is doing, fighting everybody at a catchweight.' No I'm not because Pacquiao presents that to his opponents. Once again, these people brought this to me. They said, 'Well, we'll fight Mayweather at a catchweight.' That's all you had to say. You said that. I didn't bring that to you guys; you guys brought that to me. Once you brought that to me, then I said, 'Well, we can meet in the middle.' Then you said, 'No, we don't want to meet in the middle. We want to meet at 152.' So I said, 'Let's make it happen!"
***Nope, still not a sufficient excuse...
tHE FIGHT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!. What i can't believe is that these people want May to fight a guy that is going to come in the ring on fight night inbetween 160-170 pounds. May can hardly hit 154... Come on guys the guy deserves a CW....!!!!!!!!!
Where can an adult start boxing in Toronto? I'm 24 and would like to get started in boxing or some other useful martial art.:luvbed:
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Arum is indeed cashing in
I didn't realize Nike was Bradley's sponsor last night...here is my take!!
Arum is forcing Manny's hand as he declines?. What I think is happening is that Arum fixed this so Bradley could win, Arum wants to host the Manny/bradley rematch to get paid again, then win or lose cash out Manny by getting him to fight mayweather...
Look at the numbers...... Manny fought last night... Him and Bradley got paid.. Arum hosts the rematch, both fighters get paid again....Win or lose Manny then gets to fight Mayweather, Arum gets paid again big time...Manny will probably retire after that... But it doesn't stop there... Arum now gets Bradley to fight Mayweather bills it as the only fighter to beat Manny... Arum gets paid yet again....
Arum is a smart business man, remember Manny & Bradley work for him so he is trying to make sure he gets what he can out them before they are done....
I am a Mayweather fan and do think Mayweather will beat Manny but last night from what I saw last night Manny did win.. I want to watch the fight again just to see... Manny's left hand was very busy but again those flurries he was throwing a lot were being blocked...
Just on a side note, they say Bradley's feet are swollen and twisted up and Manny couldn't finish him... Leaves me wondering..
I'm looking for educated responses, keep this stuff real!!!!! If your a nut hugger of any kind go hug a nut and don't mix up in big man discussions!!!!
Come on now! Froch was totally dominated by Ward. He lost on all 3 score cards...this is a man talking about another fighter that kicked his ass"!!! Froch is a warrior but his technique is awful!! Ward boxes the ears off him i the rematch and probably will ok him... He just beat up Dawson... What do u think Dawson weighed fight nite and he quit... Easy fight for Ward... Biggest payday for both of them but Froch has no chance...that is why he said Ward is not a must fight right now.. He knows Ward has his one way ticket... Don't get me wrong either. Froch is good but not good enough!!!
He is not offering him $250K and the fight will not generate $10 mil, Solis is unknown. The fight will generate $6 or $7 mil at the most and I bet Vit is offering him $1 mil. Shows your lack of knowledge, since Briggs was paid about $1 mil and he wasn't even a mandatory. The Klitschkos are the best paying game in town at HW, so if these divas want to complain, they can go and fight for $5K at the local Elks club or motel. Solis has never seen so much money in his life that he is being offered, but once again, if he doesn't like it, he can go to the purse bid instead whining about it in public like a little b*tch.
I was jusy using numbers, whether it 10 mill or 5 mill, they still want 95% of tyhe money....
Come on now...Haye fighting the giant amd winning the belt was the best move he could have made...Now he is in the position not to accept any slave wages from the Klitschko's. Now Haye has something that they want and they will have to pay for it...Haye fighting Harrison was also a good move...That was easy money in his pocket...The brothers have been doing this for years...Look at all the bum they have fought. Vlad has fought (going back as far as 2005 in order) Peter, Byrd, Brock, Austin, Brewster, Ibragimov, Thompson, Rahman, Chagaev, Chambers and then Peter again...All these guys are bums...Now Vitail ( going back as far as 2004 in order) Williams, Peter, Gomez, Arreola, Johnson, Sosnowski, Briggs... I agree that the HW division doesn't have top notch guys in there but all these guys that they say they have beaten to create this great legacy!!! U have got to be kidding me... Haye is going about this the right way and when ot is all said and done, he will have all the belts and a big fat wallet...It's all about business son... Sign up for the course...
As has been the case for the past 3 years. It's always something; fake back injury, slave contracts, "I am too busy on vacation", money split, now the date. It's always something with those two. The pressure is on Haye to make the fight, not on the Klitschkos. The Klitschkos didn't make their name off Haye, it was Haye that made his name off them with his promises to KO both of them. When he first came onto the HW scene he had to give 2 for 1 tickets and still had to put up curtains to hide all the empty seats.
Get that Klitschko cock out your mouth son...I order for the Klits to be
Wow, so you have no substance to say so you revert to name calling. What a shock.
Hundreds of thousands to a million $ is NOT slave wages no matter how small a part of the actual purse it is. Neither is minimum wage. Apparently you don't know much about slavery but you think it's ok to minimize what slaves went through with your lame slang.
And the Klits have ducked no one these last years and DOMINATED. I didn't even like them at all at first but now I can't deny their dominance. They ARE the best out there right now period.
Boxing is full of bums and Solis is about to be another second tier heavyweight.
You still can't explain to me why Solis deserves more money than he's offered when he doesn't add to the money and isn't the champ?
Once again, this isn't a charity. Solis should be thrilled to get 5% of the money considering he doesn't bring in 5% of the money. Doesn't that make sense?
Seems to me you hate the Klits more than you care about what is logical and reasonable.
Wow, so you have no substance to say so you revert to name calling. What a shock.
Not a shock but merely an observation...
Hundreds of thousands to a million $ is NOT slave wages no matter how small a part of the actual purse it is. Neither is minimum wage. Apparently you don't know much about slavery but you think it's ok to minimize what slaves went through with your lame slang.
I'd like to know if your black, cause I am...Actually my family name is from a long line a slaves from the south...Do you think it is ok for the brother to offer Solis peanuts. He has put in his work to be the #1 comtender..
And the Klits have ducked no one these last years and DOMINATED. I didn't even like them at all at first but now I can't deny their dominance. They ARE the best out there right now period.
They have not ducked anyone but anyone they line uo to fight has no pulse...That is why they offering peanuts. Haye has a belt and if they want it then like I said they will have to pay for it.
Boxing is full of bums and Solis is about to be another second tier heavyweight.
I agree but then how can we say the brothers are great making their legacy fighting bums.
You still can't explain to me why Solis deserves more money than he's offered when he doesn't add to the money and isn't the champ?
He paid his dues and became the #1 contender, what do you think?? There are only Cubans in Cuba. Don't get me wrong, I know Klit brings most of the money but come on, give the guy a fair pay day...
Once again, this isn't a charity. Solis should be thrilled to get 5% of the money considering he doesn't bring in 5% of the money. Doesn't that make sense?
I think these guys should cough up 1 million dollars, i think that would be fair...
Seems to me you hate the Klits more than you care about what is logical and reasonable.
I dont hate the brothers..I think they are over rated. Which fight of theirs has left you saying you want to see more...They are boring and mechanical, even though they are on top right now they have made the HW division what it is today...A division that nobody care to watch..
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Why has this been happening? Ever time the Russian brothers are due to make a defense, their are problems with the negations! What is the common thing you hear?? The brothers are making ridiculous demands and are offering slave wages. These guys are scared of any threats to their belts... If one guy was saying this then I might not be writing this but it seems to be the same claim from anyone trying to get a fight with them. The Klitschko's are not what u think they are. To me it is more then obvious that they make demands that nobody will agree to. If you say what about the other guys like Chambers, Samuels, Briggs... Well if your a real boxing follower then u would know that those guys would fight for nothing, they are the bottom of the barrel. Come on be real to yourself and boxing and realize that the brothers are big time cowards!!!!
DamonJJ what they are offering is alve wages...They want to take basically all the money...They want Solis and every other HW boxer to fight for minimum wage...Is that all you can comment on?? The fact that I said slave wages...Your a joke and I can now truthfully tell you know nothing about boxing...Maybe you should just stick to the nut hugging..
I think Haye has his pecking order right, go after the brother with the most belts, take them and then wash up the other brother, ...I think the Klits are so used to having it their own way and they know if it panned out (if Vlad loses his belts to Haye) this way they have lost control. But since the bros have figured this stradegy out they want to push Vit on him and if he dosn't comply they will say I told you so, Haye don't want to fight.. The brothers are sneaky, it's like 2 against one with them and they won't fight each other...
Teddy Atlas is pretty good with his commentating, he has experience as a trainer and has seen a lot of things...I think he is fair and tells it like it is..