It's not just his team. Fighters are ducking him left & right. And Golovkin has challenged Ward's shit talking about him, exposing "SOG" as turning down an HBO offer to fight him. I have yet to hear another word about it from Ward.
Team GGG cant ever get their story straight when it comes to Ward. They make real clowns of themselves. This has been detailed on this board over and over and over. It stime to let go of the idea of GGG challenging Ward... EVER.
Ward is fighting Kovalev next.
GGG is fighting Brook.
I mean, what else is there to say???
I just wish his fans would chill until GGG is in a relevant fight.
Let's face it - His ring IQ, while great, is overrated. The biggest advantages he has going for him are his freakish long reach, and his natural speed and razor-sharp reflexes (especially in terms of head movement)... ALL of which are things that he was born/blessed with, and NONE of which have anything to do with ring intelligence.
The mistake you are making is that you think what Floyd does is all reactionary, when in reality he sees things coming. He sees the mistakes guys make better then anyone else.
2 serious questions about this list.
1. What makes Hagler rank so high? The MW division that he completely dominated wasnt exactly on fire. Yes he beat the legends who went up to fight him. Shouldnt the fact that he never went up himself be held against him?
2. Duran's greatness cant be denied. He is up there obviously. But are we stuck on 'Montreal Duran' more then we should be? Duran was superman that day. We shouldnt forget it. But I never ever see his losses held against him. Everytime he lost, except maybe against Hagler, all we talk about is Duran not being at his best for whatever 'out of the ring' reason we can come up with.
You have a point but it also reflect on how much the casinos (MGM) also need big named boxers just as much. The casino has much more to lose/gain.
Im not sure how you figure that a casino like MGM, which has MULTIPLE ways of making money, has more to lose than Canelo, who can only make money in the boxing ring.
I think we maybe we just disagree on how big of an attraction Canelo really is.
It has more to lose because they have much more to gain by having Canelo fight there as opposed to him fighting elsewhere.
What might Canelo make by fighting there? Maybe 1 or 2mil more from the site fee's that the MGM may pay. Now how much more in revenue would the MGM pull in on a wknd when Canelo is fighting there as opposed to if he fought elsewhere? The MGM will make thier money regardless but they will always see a big boost in revenue when guys like Floyd, Pacquiao, Canelo are fighting there.
One single fight wont make a difference for MGM.
Its not like Canelo will say he would never ever wanna fight there after that. You see that is what would make a difference in his career.
MGM been there long before him and will be there long after. There are other top boxers who would love to have all their fights at MGM.
I feel like we are talking about stars on the level of Pac and Floyd. Canelo is far below them. Everyone else is. Pac and Floyd have leverage. I dont think Canelo is there yet IMHO.
All this goes back to the main issue of the dates. Canelo certainly can go head to head with Floyd on those dates. But in the process EVERYONE is losing money because they would all be stuck with a fraction of the already limited boxing fan pool.
This is true and quite impressive but this is why I'm saying it wouldnt be smart for the MGM to snub Canelo as they will need him once Floyd retires after his next 2 fights. Canelo can draw the same crowd fighting in the Staples Center or in Texas. He doesnt necessarily needs the MGM the way Floyd does. The MGM needs Canelo more than he needs the MGM.
Untrue.
Casinos give the biggest site fees to promoters. Because people will usually stay the whole weekend and spend big money the entire weekend. Once you get to a stadium, theres nothing to really spend money on. Thats why the biggest fights are in casinos and not stadiums. Thats why the Staples Center and even Jerry World cannot compete with MGM. Its not how many you can draw, its how much your draw will spend there.
Big name boxers need big name casinos.
Floyd should be focused on his camp right now and have no contact with the outside world.
Gonna be the hardest night of his career come September 13.
But damn, short of posting a video of Floyd's ex sucking his d***, I dont know how 50 comes back from that.
Can someone fill me in? What aspect of the relationship between 50 and his son makes this so offensive? I know little about him or his son.
They have no relationship.
Earlier this year, when his son recently graduated HS, 50 was noticeably absent at the ceremony. 50 tried to blame his BM for not telling him the date of the ceremony, or not inviting him there. As if 50 couldnt manage to find that out on his own. Its always his BM's fault somehow.
50 is just a deadbeat daddy and whats funny is his son looks EXACTLY like him.
The only thing I need to know is, would floyd go in there with a bigger top shelf fighter and go all out until someone gets knocked out ?
How do you think Floyd had it growing up under the tutelage of his dad and uncle?
Do you think they took it easy on him?
Do they sound like the type to do him any favors?
Damn.
Some of you guys really stepped up your trolling games.
Pretending to call the FBI?
Crying about brutal sparring sessions between boxers you never heard of?
Crying about the environment in a boxing gym you will never set foot in?
I respect your trolling game people but I cant keep up no more.
I would say its about time Floyd worked with a strength and conditioning coach.
As far as PEDs go, we know that Floyd is getting tested, unlike some other guys out there, so if he is cheating theres at least a chance that he will get caught.
"i dont have beef with him" = don t knock me out floyd
im ****ing your ex fiance but we cool doe. said no one ever.
Lol.
What he means is he is cool with him ****ing the ***** and he is also cool with Floyd hating him for it.
So Nelly really is cool with the whole situation.
The all-access shows are bore me to death.
I know how I could make this one interesting... make it about BOXING!
Show some training, sparring, interview the trainers, ASK CONTE WHAT PRODUCTS IS HE GIVING MAIDANA, ask SR why his son was so off last fight, make the fighters trash talk each other because everyone loves a good rivalry, make the trainers trash talk as well, because they both can, ask Mayweather to STOP *****ING ABOUT GLOVES, and most importantly STOP REHASHING THE SAME OLD POINT ABOUT FLOYD BEING RICH because its ok to have NEW content for your audience sometimes.
Sounds pretty down to earth to me. I know it doesn't suit the agendas of a lot of rabid fans but, for Max, it's not too out there.
Meh, Max is factually incorrect, but its not "out there".
Im not mad. Max got bosses like we all do. Thats how it goes.
This is a classic case of using Floyd's name to build up your own.
They wanna pretend that they can compete with Floyd as if they were a comparable draw.
In reality the decision is not even theirs to make.
This is a super fight IMHO.
Both guys deserve it.
My only problem with this fight is that it settles nothing. In the sense that both are not quite MW, not quite Jr MW, just somewhere in between. But sometimes fights are just fights, so ill take it.
Floyd's reach played a significant role. His physical strenght did too.
His speed, strategy and intelligence were probably bigger factors then his size.
My main problem with #48 isnt that he talks about the injury.
Its the delusional routine. Its refusing to give the better man credit.
#48, your gameplan sucked, your execution sucked, your effort sucked, your corner sucked, your adjustments sucked...
Those have nothing to do with with your injury.
It was still the same injury!!!!
Floyd has no place to talk or make those comments in my opinion. Mayweather used exactly the same excuse, and as you say also used that arm several times and did not appear injured.
Floyd didnt appear injured in the Castillo fight???
You've either never seen the fight or dont remember it at all.
He talks about the injury in his corner with his uncle in between rounds.
He decided to go southpaw because of it.
Judges scores the bout per round.
how does he score the round by looking at the fighter or by looking at the corners?
on all those 12 rounds they never realized they were scoring the bout in the wrong corner?
almost all boxing fans attest that there are close or swing rounds, how come both those two judges scored those rounds exactly the same in all 12 rounds?
give me the statistical probability or two judges scoring all 12 rounds exactly the same? what percentage if you are claiming it's high probability?
Its about a 48% chance to be honest with you.
I wish people would address there response to me, rather than 'you guys'. This is my opinion, I am not apart of a Pacquiao coalition or something.
This is not a debate about the result of the fight, or who is the better fighter. I think Mayweather won, and is the better fighter. That doesn't excuse him from any kind of criticism.
He has been a hypocrite on this subject, the two situations are similar and anyone who denies it is showing bias. It is exactly the same injury in fact, so I find Mayweather's recent comments remarkable. Just because Floyd-Castillo was not on the same stratosphere in terms of attention doesn't mean that Floyd didn't reference the injury a lot, in fact he refused to accept that it was even a close fight, after the fight. He was equally as delusional as Pacquiao was in thinking he was ahead going into the last 3 rounds last week. After the second fight with Castillo he gave a 'I told you so" speech to the press, citing that he won the fight clearly, and the second fight showed that and provided clear evidence that he was hampered by the injury in the first fight.
Here is the difference to me.
One guy worked his tail off during the fight and another guy gave a piss poor effort.
So its alot more palatable to hear about an injury from the guy who still gave it all he had.