Dude you are not making any sense. Is this a P4P list or just opinion list of ATG fighters ? Why is Muhammad Ali in a P4P list? Heavyweights are not P4P.
If its a P4P Manny Pacquiao has to be top ten based on all the weight classes he went through and actually won. You keep downing down...
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Nooo^^ i clearly asked the OP was this a P4P list or ATG list and everyone stayed quiet. Is this officially P4P or a ATG list regardless of weight?
if its P4P then why are people including Ali? It seems people are all over the place. Of course if its P4P then I am fine with Duran being...DeeMoney likes this.
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Hes kinda making a case against Duran because whats the difference between Duran and Manny Pacquiao? They keep saying all time and not P4P what has Duran done that manny hasn't besides fighting at Middleweight or higher ? Manny did alot in his career....
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Let's see how deep her pockets are. Purse bid should be under 200k. She should have that. Probox should also have that if they actually want the fight....
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Explain easily. Run down his resume against legit greats post the second Leonard fight. I want to see how we get there.
Forget title belts. I want to see the names....
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Too be fair. Frazier Foreman and Ali were in the best and hardest era for heavyweights arguably. Frazier and Foreman being behind Ali in their Era really isn't a dig against them. Thats like saying Purple Rain aint sht because its behind Thriller. You take Thriller off the list Purple Rain is probably...Last edited by MalevolentBite; Yesterday, 07:20 AM.
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You are the only person here besides me that mentioned Joe Louis. I see no votes for Jack Johnson which is kinda wild....
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I cant put Duran over Leonard. Sorry Leonard took his soul in that rematch. If you are saying P4P then ok but not all time. There's a different scale for all time versus P4P. Overall Leonard had a better career....
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Joe frazier defeated Ali for the title and went on a steam roll in his prime. Plus he never quit in the ring in his prime.
Joe Frazier got the same record against Ali similarly to Duran and Leonard but yall got Duran over Leonard ? Come on now.
Larry Holmes is one of the best...Last edited by MalevolentBite; Yesterday, 07:34 AM.
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You got Duran over Holmes, Frazier, Foreman, Leonard, Hagler, Archie Moore?...Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-06-2025, 07:13 PM.
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Are we including heavyweights ( Non P4P)? Then no. If its P4P then yes. Heavyweights alone would knock him to top 15.
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What about Buddy McGirt ? As a trainer he has worked with multiple world champions, including Arturo Gatti, Antonio Tarver, Hasim Rahman, Paulie Malignaggi, and Sergey Kovalev. McGirt was named Trainer of the Year for 2002 by the Boxing Writers Association of America. He is currently coaching middleweight...Bronson66 likes this.
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Emmanuel Stewart is the best hands down. Andy Lee is about to win coach of the year !!!
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Tarver - Jones
Rafael Marquez - Israel Vasquez
Paulie Ayala - Johnny Tapia
Jermain Taylor - Bernard Hopkins
Kelly Pavlik- Jermain Taylor
Carl Froch - George Groves
Ricardo Mayorga - Vernon Forrest
Erik Morales - Marco Antonio Barrera
Juan Manuel Márquez...Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-05-2025, 09:23 PM.DeeMoney likes this.
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Thats someone you rarely see online. What's Corey up to now a days ? I hope hes doing alright....
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No. I never ever thought Roy ducked anyone in his era because their wasnt really anyone he could really fight. It was a weak era. I think Roy probably would had beaten the Tiger (Dariusz Michalczewski) but it would go to the cards.
Idk if Roy could had beaten Calazage, Ward, Bivol, Kovalev,...
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Me either but everything is a numbers game. 7/10 is still 70%. If you were giving 70% odds of hitting the lotto you would play every day. I am only giving manny a 30% chance to win or draw if they fought 10 times. It could be a off night , illness, injury that can affect any figher at any time....
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