Poll: Is Duran a top 5 AT fighter?

[SouthpawRight]

I too have Duran above all those you listed, and while I can see a clear path for Leonard to be rated higher- and possibly one for Archie and Hagler, am wondering how you have Frazier, Holmes, and Foreman rated higher than Duran?

You got Duran over Holmes, Frazier, Foreman, Leonard, Hagler, Archie Moore?

Joe was a strong courageous man but Duran has a case for being the best of his era

As does Sugar Leonard

the same cannot be said of Brave Joe

Frazier taking Ali’s 0 is the heavyweight edition of Duran-Sugar Leonard

[Mr Mitts]

You got Duran over Holmes, Frazier, Foreman, Leonard, Hagler, Archie Moore?

Easily, yes. And I might controversially include Charles.

[MalevolentBite]

I too have Duran above all those you listed, and while I can see a clear path for Leonard to be rated higher- and possibly one for Archie and Hagler, am wondering how you have Frazier, Holmes, and Foreman rated higher than Duran?

Joe frazier defeated Ali for the title and went on a steam roll in his prime. Plus he never quit in the ring in his prime.

Joe Frazier got the same record against Ali similarly to Duran and Leonard but yall got Duran over Leonard ? Come on now.

Larry Holmes is one of the best heavyweights of all time. The best jab in boxing and almost was 49-0 and arguably he should had broken that record. He also beat a prime Ray Mercer who gave Lennox a great fight. Who many consider one of the greatest ever.

Foreman claimed the heavyweight belt in two different eras. The man was a beast in two eras. Steamed rolled prime Frazier and micheal moorer.


Who did Duran beat better than prime Frazier and Micheal Moorer ? He beat leonard but Leonard came back with vengeance.

Run down Durans resume against all time greats past the 2nd Leonard fight. And let's see how he really stacks up. Hes already the weakest of the four kings or tied with hearns but below hagler and definitely leonard. we give him respect due to his size thats why hes ranked high on P4P. But let's run down the list post Leonard 2.

He gave hagler a hard fight though.

[MalevolentBite]

Easily, yes. And I might controversially include Charles.

I cant put Duran over Leonard. Sorry Leonard took his soul in that rematch. If you are saying P4P then ok but not all time. There's a different scale for all time versus P4P. Overall Leonard had a better career.

[MalevolentBite]

No Jack Johnson or Joe Louis ?

[MalevolentBite]

Top 5 by my concept of Greatness it tough, tough, tough. But Duran? Dammed near:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Wille Pep
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Harry Greb
6. Joe Louis
7. Sam Langford
8. Benny Leonard
9. Roberto Duran

You are the only person here besides me that mentioned Joe Louis. I see no votes for Jack Johnson which is kinda wild.

[MalevolentBite]

Joe was a strong courageous man but Duran has a case for being the best of his era

As does Sugar Leonard

the same cannot be said of Brave Joe

Frazier taking Ali’s 0 is the heavyweight edition of Duran-Sugar Leonard

Too be fair. Frazier Foreman and Ali were in the best and hardest era for heavyweights arguably. Frazier and Foreman being behind Ali in their Era really isn't a dig against them. Thats like saying Purple Rain aint sht because its behind Thriller. You take Thriller off the list Purple Rain is probably one of the best solo albums ever. Joe Frazier lost to legit all time greats.

Leonard make Duran quit. There's no coming back from that for me to put Duran over Leonard. Leonard was the best of the 4 kings.

Archie moore is one of the greatest

I know people like to sht on Larry Holmes so I will leave that be.

But no mentioned of Joe Louis. Duran is over Joe Louis now? All time? I get it if we said P4P.

[MalevolentBite]

Easily, yes. And I might controversially include Charles.

Explain easily. Run down his resume against legit greats post the second Leonard fight. I want to see how we get there.

Forget title belts. I want to see the names.

[QueensburyRules]

curious why Floyd is top 10 for IDH

That is my favorite boxer ever

I’m familiar with his record so I don’t see him as mythical figure even though he was

The master of clean punching and boxing god of defense

it was an achievement for the opponent if he could win more than 2 clear rounds

the crowd would or gasm when opponent managed to get a clean jab in

- - Helps immensely with your own Commish, Judges, Ref, Venue, and Drug Testing Cartel.

I'm still undefeated in my backyard...yeah!!!

[MalevolentBite]

- - Helps immensely with your own Commish, Judges, Ref, Venue, and Drug Testing Cartel.

I'm still undefeated in my backyard...yeah!!!

Hes kinda making a case against Duran because whats the difference between Duran and Manny Pacquiao? They keep saying all time and not P4P what has Duran done that manny hasn't besides fighting at Middleweight or higher ? Manny did alot in his career.