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  • #21
    Originally posted by mmrooms View Post
    how did you measured the speed variation?
    you cant measure it there were no significant losses i would definetly know if i lost speed

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    • #22
      Originally posted by boxer Q21 View Post
      you cant measure it there were no significant losses i would definetly know if i lost speed
      The correct answer is:

      "I don't know how to measure it, and the day-by-day changes in my kinetic are so small that I can't appreciate them"


      There are many ways to measure speed, and it can be splitted in two different aspects:

      a) speed intended as the ability to give one single punch as fast as possible

      b) speed intended as the ability to shot as many punches as possible in the shortest amount of time.

      Both skills are affected by weight training in a very complex manner, but since boxe and taekwondo are olympic sport those skills has been scientifically analyzed.

      But before thinking about improving them you have to measure them, by using phototubes or a surface that counts how many times it is touched.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Danny_123 View Post
        I suppose if you are lifting weights to gain mass - as in eating high calorie diets and lifting heavy weights with low reps - then you might lose some speed. But just look at Mike Tyson, that guy had huge muscles but was still pretty quick.
        But if you are using weights to tone up your muscles and their endurance and power - by using lower weights and higher reps - you shouldn't lose any/much speed.
        I personally use low weights and perform the sets explosively, but thats just me lol.
        Hope this helps some.
        MIke didnt lift in his younger years, just pushups.
        later on he did to stay strong when he was older

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        • #24
          Originally posted by cusd'amatokid View Post
          MIke didnt lift in his younger years, just pushups.
          later on he did to stay strong when he was older
          yea but mike was jacked already, even when he was young he did do some minor weights such as shrugs and medacine ball work.

          when he started lifting weights he didn't really slow down ether, even in his 40's he was still fast.

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          • #25
            medicine ball is not lifting weights. Medicine ball is plyometric. It's completely different.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by mmrooms View Post
              The correct answer is:

              "I don't know how to measure it, and the day-by-day changes in my kinetic are so small that I can't appreciate them"


              There are many ways to measure speed, and it can be splitted in two different aspects:

              a) speed intended as the ability to give one single punch as fast as possible

              b) speed intended as the ability to shot as many punches as possible in the shortest amount of time.

              Both skills are affected by weight training in a very complex manner, but since boxe and taekwondo are olympic sport those skills has been scientifically analyzed.

              But before thinking about improving them you have to measure them, by using phototubes or a surface that counts how many times it is touched.
              well the power im gaining from the weightlifting far outweighs the worth the almost unnoticeable amount of speed i lost

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              • #27
                Originally posted by boxer Q21 View Post
                well the power im gaining from the weightlifting far outweighs the worth the almost unnoticeable amount of speed i lost
                you could have gained speed and strength. If you don't do a specific training for speed you won't see any difference in speed, since you are kind of a "beginner" in this aspect of training.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by boxer Q21 View Post
                  well the power im gaining from the weightlifting far outweighs the worth the almost unnoticeable amount of speed i lost
                  If you're gaining power without gaining (a significant amount of) weight, you've gained speed.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                    If you're gaining power without gaining (a significant amount of) weight, you've gained speed.
                    how could you say that? could you give any proof? (I'm not trying to criticize, I'm genuinely interested)

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Peek-A-Boo View Post
                      so do lifting really slow u down???

                      i know hatton lifts and his speed has remained constant all the way through???

                      A long as you don't overdue it. Try lifting light weights. Remember too much muscle mass takes away your reach.

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