Calzaghe's defense streak vs. Bernard's defense streak?

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  • GEOFFHAYES
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
    I'm telling you his missed out on fighting a significant number of highly ranked suppermiddleweights in the time he was there with the least important of the 4 major titles.

    And once again, Take out Lacy's name.

    We've been over and over how that's one fight, 13 years into his career.

    It was a good job, but it doesn't erase what happned (and didn't happen) before it.


    And we've just established your opinion isn't very informed with your admision you've never seen many of those guys fight even once.
    Well, I expect they are great fighters who'd of beaten Joe, I'll take your word for it, but I just didn't see them mentioned as much as Jones Jr, Tarver etc. Maybe it was just me?

    Remember, Joe said he had finished at SMW after the Mitchell fight and was moving up to LHW, he only fought guys to keep his world title after that.. until Lacy.

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    • GEOFFHAYES
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      #42
      Originally posted by Grimgash
      Kessler is the man whos going to bury Beyer in thier meeting. Have you watched boxing these last few years? = (
      I've watch a lot of boxing but I don't think this Kessler guy has ever been on British TV. Maybe he's been on American TV a lot?

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      • GEOFFHAYES
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        #43
        Originally posted by Abe Attell
        didn't Brewer lose to Echols???

        And wasn't this all after Bernard beat up Echols twice
        Technically, yes. But he was robbed.

        99 out of 100 referee's would of stopped the fight in the second round when Echols was gone, 99 out of 100 referee's would not of stopped the fight in round three when Brewer was fine.

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        • Bozo_no no
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          #44
          Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
          Well, I expect they are great fighters who'd of beaten Joe, I'll take your word for it, but I just didn't see them mentioned as much as Jones Jr, Tarver etc. Maybe it was just me?

          Remember, Joe said he had finished at SMW after the Mitchell fight and was moving up to LHW, he only fought guys to keep his world title after that.. until Lacy.

          Wow.

          He sure could have let out a big "Mission Accopmplished" at that point.


          What more does someone need when they have the WBO strap?


          I just wish you'd admit you love the guy. It's okay, really. You make a huge post that starts out with how you think he's boring, and has no charisma, and then write an essay about how people will be excited when they look back.

          He's a good fighter, but spent a large majority of his career up until now with unrecognized potential, one meaningless title, and a meidocre division he didn't even come close to cleaning up or unifying.

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            #45
            Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
            I've watch a lot of boxing but I don't think this Kessler guy has ever been on British TV. Maybe he's been on American TV a lot?
            It's really mind blowing that you say you don't like Joe, yet bark like a rabbid dog defending him, attempting to educate everyone on fighters you just admitted you've never seen fight.

            How have you never seen Kessler? He's honestly never seen any UK TV coverage? If so that's really unfortunate.

            I will upload a fight or two in the upload forum and let you know.

            Kessler is a good fighter, and if he beats Beyer all I'm looking for out of Joe is a unification fight with Kessler.

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            • scap
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              #46
              Originally posted by Bozo_no no
              Ottke does count, because I don't buy that such a big fight was available (like many others) and that it was completely Ottke's fault it didn't come off.

              I always get a list of excuses from Calzaghe's fans about why many of those fights didn't come off. And if it was once or twice I could see it. But when he spent the better portion of his career having fights not come off and missing countless opportunities to face better competition than he did, he loses the benefit of the doubt.

              There is no way those many match ups, plus dreamed of match ups like Jones, Hopkins, Clinton Woods, Glen Johnson ...

              all didn't come off and I'm supposed to buy that everyone was ducking Calzaghe and not vice versa, ESPECIALLY when FRANK WARREN was his Manager.

              Sorry, as per usual, you have fights Calzaghe didn't take accompanied by nothing but excuses. Doesn't fly.
              Hey pal how the **** have you been!

              Are you laying sole blame on Mr. Calzaghe or do you think there is lots of blame to spread around? (Cmon you think getting a fight with Joe, Bernard or Roy is easy...lot of egos who dont think they need to give an inch)

              Good to see you posting, your "tight ass" was missed!

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              • GEOFFHAYES
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                #47
                Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                Wow.

                He sure could have let out a big "Mission Accopmplished" at that point.


                What more does someone need when they have the WBO strap?


                I just wish you'd admit you love the guy. It's okay, really. You make a huge post that starts out with how you think he's boring, and has no charisma, and then write an essay about how people will be excited when they look back.

                He's a good fighter, but spent a large majority of his career up until now with unrecognized potential, one meaningless title, and a meidocre division he didn't even come close to cleaning up or unifying.
                As I've said before, you are by far the craziest person I have ever come across in life.

                Anyway, the WBO strap might not mean anything to you but in Britain it does - Benn, Eubank and Hamed held it.

                I said I think Calzaghe is a boring guy with no charisma, then I said that he's been in many exciting fights and put on many spectacular performances. Read it again As for the essays, your the one who writes the malice-filled essays all your life and I just have to inform people of the truth. It's annoying, but your beyond help.

                As for the last paragraph, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. Others would say he's dominated his sport for almost a decade, such as British journalists (those that matter, Joe has only been concerned about getting the respect he deserves in British Boxing).

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by scap
                  Hey pal how the **** have you been!

                  Are you laying sole blame on Mr. Calzaghe or do you think there is lots of blame to spread around? (Cmon you think getting a fight with Joe, Bernard or Roy is easy...lot of egos who dont think they need to give an inch)

                  Good to see you posting, your "tight ass" was missed!

                  Funny, I've been posting all along. You're the one who dissapeared when Nard beat Tarver, and you haven't had a lot to talk about since.

                  Nice to see you waited this long to bring up one of your favorite topics.

                  How's the medicating going?

                  And yes, when one or two fights doesn't come off, there's blame to go around. When it's a list of fights over a decade, it's pretty clear where the blame goes.

                  Funny how that doesn't really change the fact his resume is sub par and doesn't compare with Hopkins, huh bubble boy?

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                  • scap
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                    #49
                    WBO, IBF, NABF, IBO, WBC, WBA....its the fighter that makes the belt not the other way around.

                    Cult fans above all others should know this often overlooked fact!

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                    • GEOFFHAYES
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                      It's really mind blowing that you say you don't like Joe, yet bark like a rabbid dog defending him, attempting to educate everyone on fighters you just admitted you've never seen fight.
                      Why would I dislike Joe? He's never done anything to harm me.

                      I'm not a Calzaghe fan, but I might as well defend him when some psycho on the internet spreads a load of bull****.

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