Did Floyd ever take a "Risk" in his career?

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  • dan_cov
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    #51
    Originally posted by blowblow
    i agree in the bold statement but canelo? nah.. he was green back then

    He had well over 40 fights with over 300 rounds as a pro spanning over 8 years under his belt & had just beaten a former world champion in Mosley and a current world champion in Trout the fight before.

    He may not have been at his physical peak but he was anything but green.

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    • dan_cov
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      #52
      43 pro fights having beaten multiple European & former/present world champions.
      300+ rounds as a pro.

      Anyone else with that experience is getting called a veteran

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        #53
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        He had well over 40 fights with over 300 rounds as a pro spanning over 8 years under his belt & had just beaten a former world champion in Mosley and a current world champion in Trout the fight before.

        He may not have been at his physical peak but he was anything but green.
        i'm not a canelo fan but if floyd fought prime canelo he will lose his 0.

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          #54
          Originally posted by blowblow
          i'm not a canelo fan but if floyd fought prime canelo he will lose his 0.

          I think you mean at his peak?
          He was certainly in his prime vs Floyd just maybe not at his peak.

          If he wasn't prime then when was he?

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            #55
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            I think you mean at his peak?
            He was certainly in his prime vs Floyd just maybe not at his peak.

            If he wasn't prime then when was he?
            yeah at his peak.. prime? i don't know coz he was cherrypicking so i cannot say when. he looks strong against bums.

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              #56
              Originally posted by ddeg10
              I agree. He never took big risks. Minor at most - I guess you could call the Canelo fight a minor risk.
              Jose Luis Castillo was a risk I'd say. Floyd was moving up in a division and fought a guy in his prime and pretty much lost.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BarfyMan362
                Jose Luis Castillo was a risk I'd say. Floyd was moving up in a division and fought a guy in his prime and pretty much lost.
                a gift win.. other than that no real risk or threat.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Matt60
                  I know Floyd wrongly gets a lot of criticism for allegedly ducking some fighters. I don't believe it. At the same time, I don't think Floyd took a risk in his career outside of the ODLH fight. Has Floyd ever took a risk like going a great fighter, a bigger fighter, a fight where the circumstances were against him (ring size, gloves, arena, etc.)? I give Floyd props for going against the bigger ODLH at a weight class he wasn't used to. That was a great win that propelled him as the face of boxing. After that, I'm not sure if Floyd took any major risks.

                  When I think of major risks, I think of SRL going up in weight after retirement to face the Great Marvin Hagler or Ali fighting Peak George Foreman in another country. Or Teo facing Loma when as a young green fighter.
                  - -He lost the Oscar fight and ducked the rematch that set up all his Manny woes.

                  The latter half of his career MGM Floyd with his own drug testing agency, ref, judges, Commish = no risk...

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                  • Marchegiano
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                    #59
                    No, he's too good for anyone to have been a proper risk to him. Marciano took no risks either...cause there was none for him.

                    If X then Y is all I ever hear and it's always ******. If the timing was different, if weights were different, whatever dude. To this day people will watch some of the best movers in history, atg boxers, get ktfo by Marciano and say "But if he fought a great boxer doe" which is like saying you think more of what didn't work his entire career would have eventually worked. Eventually. It's ****ing dumb.

                    If floyd had fought X when he was in his prime...****ing dumb.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      When Floyd became name he never took risks. Never fought people that people thought floyd couldn't beat.
                      Fighting old dlh, ssm, small pac, drained nel o and green don't look to me like someone wanting greatness
                      These are the exact people you listed he needed to fight, other than Canelo to be an ATG. When he did and beat all of them you erased the post. Lucky for us some posters saved it and sigged it before you deleted it.

                      Yet now you are saying those wins don't look like someone wanting greatness.

                      You are a liar with no credibility.

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