He did risk getting in their with Chico Corrales in his prime. He was a monster. 6 foot 130 pounder and very powerful. He was an animal. Floyd shocked me at that time.
Did Floyd ever take a "Risk" in his career?
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Floyd could have made weight vs Marquez but wanted an advantage in size and was willing to pay for it.Age has nothing to do with dropping water weight lmfao hell has nothing to do with dropping weight period.
Everyone has a wall where it starts to do damage that a rehydration wont be able to repair in 24 hours. Its the reason Mayweather had to get a TUE to rehydrate, its the reason Mayweather paid millions to come in overweight vs Marquez. Every OUNCE MATTERS, If it didnt Mayweather wouldnt even bother catchweighting Canelo.
He was also not in his early 20s.
Im baffled that Canelo fans are so delusional that I actually have to defend one of my least favorite fighters ever in Floyd.Comment
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Youre full of sht as well, I remember you were going to leave if Floyd beat Manny, to even think he needed an advantage to beat the brakes of JMM shows where youre at, did Manny NEED to drain Cotto did he NEED to drain Oscar funny how youre silent on everybody else who did way more handicapping of opponents than Floyd ever did.
Tell me how come his opponents including JMM which collectively are the greatest fighters of his era claim Floyd to be the best they fought, now does has that happen, you know how because they faced him and were outclassed, not sitting at a computer talking sht like the majority of children in here.Comment
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This Tyson.
However, Tyson has praised his fellow boxing legend and even claimed on one occasion Mayweather is the best "fighter in the last hundred years of boxing."
Speaking during the promotion of HBO's Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth in 2013, 'Iron' Mike was asked how would he beat Mayweather in a fight.
The 'Baddest Man on the Planet' responded: "It would be tough to beat him. He's a really great fighter. He'd be tough for anyone to beat him in his weight division.
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Because Floyd is the best talent wise of his generation, but he went out of his way to not fight other guys at their best, so we never really got to see him shine.Youre full of sht as well, I remember you were going to leave if Floyd beat Manny, to even think he needed an advantage to beat the brakes of JMM shows where youre at, did Manny NEED to drain Cotto did he NEED to drain Oscar funny how youre silent on everybody else who did way more handicapping of opponents than Floyd ever did.
Tell me how come his opponents including JMM which collectively are the greatest fighters of his era claim Floyd to be the best they fought, now does has that happen, you know how because they faced him and were outclassed, not sitting at a computer talking sht like the majority of children in here.
Its a pretty simple concept.
I also never made such claims with the Pacquiao fight. I was always adamant that it was happening too late and was no longer relevant. Nice try though.Comment
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This is BS rhetoric, who did Manny fight at WW that was prime name one prime WW and dont name JWWs , prime is such a twisted time frame, others like Manny have done more manipulation of fights than Floyd ever has yet they get praise its so obvious the bias and double standards thats involved.Because Floyd is the best talent wise of his generation, but he went out of his way to not fight other guys at their best, so we never really got to see him shine.
Its a pretty simple concept.
I also never made such claims with the Pacquiao fight. I was always adamant that it was happening too late and was no longer relevant. Nice try though.
And you did make the claim on Manny vs Floyd because you made it to me , at the time I had the tag Reload which after a computer dying and email closed I couldnt recover it, but you did I have no doubt about it and it was written in my messages on that account.
Answer this if these 20+ WC opponents were all picked at their worst how can they all say Floyd was the best they fought, how can that be it makes no sense at all, nobody will say a guy is the best they fought unless he beat a very good version of them ?Comment
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Leave your personal sentiments out of this, you not liking or hating Canelo/mayweather adds nothing to the argument.
and You said it yourself.
"Floyd could have made weight but he wanted the advantage", now whats the opposite of that? Dropping that weight would be a DISadvantage.
like I said already once a fighter hits that wall its becomes crucial and dropping any additional water weight will start to do damage beyond what a rehydration can repair.
Age matters 0 when it comes to dropping water weight or real weight.
1lb of water drained at 20 years of age weighs the same as 1lb of water drained at 40 years of age.
1lb of fat at 20 years of age weighs the same as 1lb of fat at 40 years of age.
1lb of muscle at 20 years of age weighs the same as 1lb of muscle at 40 years of age.
So if those 2lbs additional pounds would have hurt Mayweather at age 30-something than those same additional 2lbs would have also hurt him at 20 years of age.
Reason people have a false inclination that age matters is because a individuals BMR changes but that has absolutely no bearing on if it's easier to recover from a cut or not. It only has a bearing on how much extra work you have to put in to achieve the same results; meaning before you had to burn 500 calories in workouts to lose 1lb a week but now since you have a slower BMR you have to burn now 600 calories in workouts to lose 1lb a week. That is literally the only tangible difference age can make in making weight bar illness/disease/function etc. Age has no bearing on how well you recover from a drastic weight cut. If you was 20 years old and cut 2 lbs over your wall you will be hurting bad just like if you was 40 years old and cut 2lbs over your wall you will be hurting bad.Last edited by TheBoxGod; 01-28-2021, 01:05 AM.Comment
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I know Floyd wrongly gets a lot of criticism for allegedly ducking some fighters. I don't believe it. At the same time, I don't think Floyd took a risk in his career outside of the ODLH fight. Has Floyd ever took a risk like going a great fighter, a bigger fighter, a fight where the circumstances were against him (ring size, gloves, arena, etc.)? I give Floyd props for going against the bigger ODLH at a weight class he wasn't used to. That was a great win that propelled him as the face of boxing. After that, I'm not sure if Floyd took any major risks.
When I think of major risks, I think of SRL going up in weight after retirement to face the Great Marvin Hagler or Ali fighting Peak George Foreman in another country. Or Teo facing Loma when as a young green fighter.
a bit silly man
in real life...
when Mayweather announced Hatton, EVERYONE said he would lose
when Mayweather announced Mosley, EVERYONE said he would lose
when Mayweather announced Pacquiao, EVERYONE said he would lose
selecting Canelo was definitely a risk, and I think Oscar may have been the favorite
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