British School of Boxing Lagging Behind the Americas

[Mushashi]

About 1/5 that of the US population and we generally hold more like a 1/3 to a 1/4 the titles of the US, although we that's probably because we got more boxers per capita.

If you crunch the numbers across the major boxing nations you find that national success basically correlates to how many fighters you got in the sport. Who'da thunk it huh?

I don't disagree with you. Outside of Eastern Europe, Britain produces the better quantity of fighters from Europe. But the poster I quoted made it seem like UK is a minnow nation equivalent to San Marino or Malta.

[Mushashi]

You mean decades of circlejerking American heavyweights while 1/2 the world remained behind the iron curtain? Then within two decades of the USSR falling, the American fighters cannot compete anymore and therefore have to call it a "weak era" and say all the best heavyweights are in the NFL? That rich culture?

Tell me again how old post-jail Ali, half-blind Frazier, and green easily gassed Foreman would dominate today's heavyweights.

Outside of the top 3 the heavyweight division is nothing special. Been this way since the Klitschko bros reign.

Post-exile Ali, one good eye Frazier, prime Foreman would walk through Pulev, Ruiz, Ortiz, Whyte and rest of second tier heavy's.

All they have is size and not much else. They could stand to lose a few pounds too

Out of the Big 3 Fury would cause the most problems. Wilder's power is legit and AJ is a good all rounder, can box and punch. But I'd still favour Ali, Frazier and Foreman

[Citizen Koba]

I don't disagree with you. Outside of Eastern Europe, Britain produces the better quantity of fighters from Europe. But the poster I quoted made it seem like UK is a minnow nation equivalent to San Marino or Malta.

Fair enough, I mean we really ain't a small country in terms of population even if we ain't one of your real big 100 mil+ nations.

[Marchegiano]

Nevermind the fact that any nation that takes a run at America has like a 100 years dominance to catch up to.

How much credit do we get for Fury these days? Kronk is American. The British trained Fury did beat Wlad though. Fury trained by his weird leprechaun friend was kinda the worst Fury. I think Peter's Fury and Sugar's Fury are probably about equal just different.... never thought about it before but that's a good fight too. Fury that twisted Wlad all night vs Wilder KO Fury.

[Kezzer]

After Terence KO’d Kell, Brook mentioned the American school of boxing being more advanced than the British

Brits have a very rich history in boxing but seem to fall short against slick American brothas and Latinos

Would British prospects be better off moving to America and developing as fighters inside the American system of boxing

Brook isn’t exactly one of the best brits? So a really bad example to compare. In addition to that - america should be far better than the UK, the size of America is what in comparison to the uk? If you can’t find talent to be better than Britain that you really aren’t doing very well. The UK punches well above its weight (see what I did there?)

[Roadblock]

There are 3000 boxers registered in the UK, 300 registered in Australia, how many in the USA ? How many in Europe .

We only take note of the headliners, not the size of the pool they come out of which must be relative to the quality and also the number of quality.

[Marchegiano]

There are 3000 boxers registered in the UK, 300 registered in Australia, how many in the USA ? How many in Europe .

We only take note of the headliners, not the size of the pool they come out of which must be relative to the quality and also the number of quality.

Where does one even check that?


edit- I assume someplace beyond boxrec?

Boxrec has 3694 USA

1059 UK

[MUNG]

yeah i think the competition in the states would be good for development, lots of different backgrounds and styles and immigrants, which make up a large number of boxers who really want to make it & have little other options which is motivational & for family reasons to really help out there which drives u on i would say

plus legendary venues like vegas and the garden & so many former champs and history means if u want to make your mark it helps if u have won in the states, helps a lot

joshua might argue he doesnt need to but i would say he secretly admires fury for what he did

[Toffee]

Two best boxing countries Mexico and usa

That's about 500 million people you've narrowed it down to then.

[TMLT87]

We’ve had plenty slick fighters, Naz, Fury, Callazaghi..

But we are a tiny country, in reality we are punching well above our weight in most the stuff we do.

Exactly. The UK has a comparable population to Italy and France. Countries like Mexico and Russia have around twice the UKs population and the US is like Mexico, Russia and the UK combined.

I dont think there should be any expectation of the UK being the best, but they're pretty damn good all things considered.