British School of Boxing Lagging Behind the Americas

[Ray*]

Brook the same guy that stayed in the UK all his career. And only come out once in a while. As much as everyone hated Amir Khan he left the UK when he could have stayed and milk the Olympic medal thing, seek better training, and better competition in america. Does anyone really think Callum smith was going to win? Nope, but his effort was pathetic for someone who is meant to be “Big” at the weight.

[Sid-Knee]

After Terence KO’d Kell, Brook mentioned the American school of boxing being more advanced than the British

Brits have a very rich history in boxing but seem to fall short against slick American brothas and Latinos

Would British prospects be better off moving to America and developing as fighters inside the American system of boxing

Is that why we beat both most of the time we fight?

And we don't spring it on them at 4 weeks notice and have them travel to be placed in the smallest ring i've ever f3cking seen in my life.

Show me where a shot Kell, whose punch resistance was gone after draining himself to a weight he should have been nowhere near, said this?

[Sid-Knee]

Fury is a ped user tho

And looks like a 65 yr old grandpa

Mexicans and Americans are the two biggest PED using nations in history. That's a fact.

Fury doesn't stack a load of disadvantages on his opponents all the time while being at home. Fury actually does the opposite. Canelo the fraud does this all the time.

[Sid-Knee]

There's a richer boxing culture in the US than anywhere else. Literally the hotbed of boxing talent pool wise, where even if you're not from there that's the place you go for the best sparring and training.

Why has that supposed talent have less achievements than the UK then? Look at the resumes of our top fighters compared to the US fighters. There you'll see the difference.

[DaNeutral.]

Thread starter has a point. A good mix of modernised thinking and technique mixed with a big plate of PEDS really helped American Boxers dominate the sport over a good number of years.

But this current era seems to be full of talented fighters with tiny little shrivelled up balls and a weak little fragile spine. I've never known an era of ducking like the modern American one, fighters so damn scared to lose a fight and damage thier rep or pulling power.

If rather the Brit fighters stayed in the UK and didn't turn in to massive pu66ies.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Brook the same guy that stayed in the UK all his career. And only come out once in a while. As much as everyone hated Amir Khan he left the UK when he could have stayed and milk the Olympic medal thing, seek better training, and better competition in america. Does anyone really think Callum smith was going to win? Nope, but his effort was pathetic for someone who is meant to be “Big” at the weight.

The most of American guys stay in USA the whole career and nobody outside USA knows about them.

[KingOfGlory]

There's a richer boxing culture in the US than anywhere else. Literally the hotbed of boxing talent pool wise, where even if you're not from there that's the place you go for the best sparring and training.

You mean decades of circlejerking American heavyweights while 1/2 the world remained behind the iron curtain? Then within two decades of the USSR falling, the American fighters cannot compete anymore and therefore have to call it a "weak era" and say all the best heavyweights are in the NFL? That rich culture?

Tell me again how old post-jail Ali, half-blind Frazier, and green easily gassed Foreman would dominate today's heavyweights.

[Theuklion]

Lennox Lewis picked up boxing in Canada and as a pro was exclusively trained by American trainers. Only represented UK as a pro due to it being better for business.

Tyson Fury trains with the Kronk.

Anthony Joshua lost in his American debut against a fat Mexican.

So the talent is there in the UK but the training isn't on par to what you get in North America.

Spot on.

Look how good Steve Collins & Chris Eubank were, both earned thier stripes in the US before coming back home, Nigel Benn did the same after losing to Eubank, totally rebuilt himself as a fighter in America.

[Citizen Koba]

66 million isn't tiny

About 1/5 that of the US population and we generally hold more like a 1/3 to a 1/4 the titles of the US, although we that's probably because we got more boxers per capita.

If you crunch the numbers across the major boxing nations you find that national success basically correlates to how many fighters you got in the sport. Who'da thunk it huh?

[Mushashi]

Ooo Brit prospects should relocate to the US

Hell manny did it to become successful during his come up

Lennox became an all time great when he trained under Steward, ditto Wlad. Lennox took up boxing in Canada. Britain's greatest heavyweight.

Naseem Hamed ditched Ingle in favour of Steward too.

Lennox and Wlad trained regularly in the US.

Amir after his first loss relocated to the States to work with Roach and spar with Manny.

Manny went to another level when he hired Roach

GGG wouldn't be the fighter he was if he hadn't worked with Abel Sanchez, same for Kovalev who hired American trainers, they both relocated too

Recently Fury dropped his young English trainer Davison in favour of Steward's nephew SugarHill.

So yeah there's a precedent for foreign fighters improving and becoming great by training and moving Stateside under the influence of American trainers.