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  • #51
    Originally posted by Al Broker View Post
    The real question is what will Hearn say now that many reporters would like to hear HIS OPINION on DAZN vs GBP. This is where, like I’ve been saying, suspect answers will start to come into play. Ideally if Hearn was given huge budgets for fights that fans criticized then Eddie should support in DAZN paying GBP the Canelo fight.

    Notice how much of the drama is about the approval for Matchroom opponents. Why wasn’t Eddie for the last months really pushing for his fighters to take the Canelo fight? It always always “it’s up to Smith or BJS” when the whole time Smith knew about the approvals nor did he mention to say “Canelo needs to be reasonable about the pays.” Hearn didn’t disclose any of that because it benefited fans not knowing the new splits!!!

    When Smith and BJS came back, they wanted their original offers knowing GBP would only get $17mil for those fights. So they were trolling GBP all orchestrated by Eddie Hearn. 17mil/5mil Thing is GBP felt they shouldn’t have been the ones to fork over any differences to make the fight.
    Good post. What you say makes sense, but I wonder if Hearn is really that smart. What is the end game here?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Kiowhatta View Post
      Canelo is being utterly self centered, indefatigable, which implies he care not for the overall health of the sport which has bowed and sc****d to him on many occasions.
      The standard was initally set by European football stars who willingly took pay cuts along with back rrom staff to keep the game on life support.
      DAZN had no idea this pandemic was coming, no one did, and most reasonable people realise what was is not what is.

      Except for Alvarez. I have always thaought he was a bit of a ******, but this completely confirms it for me.

      If the P4P rankings included depth of character then Canelo would be outta there. Selfish f*^k. He's still going to be receiving megabucks for fighting just twice a year, and only once a year is he expected to fight someone who is respectable.

      I don't care who he fights, as long as it's against an opponent who isn't on their way to journeyman or heavy bag status. The GGG fight doesn't interest me anymore as Golovkin is nearing 40, and Canelo has his number, do it will be entertaining but a decision for carrott boy.
      Saunders, or Smith are decent opponents, as are Charlo, Munguia, Andrade, and a whole host of young fighters.

      But we know Canelo will pick according to the Mayweather business model: Get ém while they're coming off a tough fight, make weight demands, dictate everything from ring size, to gloves, referees, judges, ring walk, and even what toilet paper is to be used.

      I hope the bum loses and has to cough up most of what he's earn't in legal fees - that will force him to take the riskiest fights for the biggest rewards - unless he is happy fighting Ryoto Murata's and Rocky Fieldings until retirement.
      Canelo was willing to fight despite 3 pay cuts. Zero money from gate receipts, zero from sponsorships and a 1/3 cut to from his $35 million guarantee. DAZN want to cut even more.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Verus View Post
        Good post. What you say makes sense, but I wonder if Hearn is really that smart. What is the end game here?
        Think of it like this. It’s hard to know if industry is trolling but having Oscar as an approved opponent is DAZN smacking back at the GBP contract? Let me repeat, DAZN had DLH as an approved opponent for Canelo.

        Was Oscar’s plan to bite a bullet and salvage a Canelo date for Q4 by fighting an opponent similar the way RJJ and Tyson were lined up with? DAZN took Oscar’s approach and hit back at him to say, “we’ll if you’re willing to fight how about you fight Canelo?!” These is Hearn conspiring too.

        Don’t be surprised that after everyone is compensated or resolved to end this lawsuit, that Matchroom plans to sign Canelo. This way the board at DAZN doesn’t have to work with GBP and instead with Matchroom.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Al Broker View Post
          Think of it like this. It’s hard to know if industry is trolling but having Oscar as an approved opponent is DAZN smacking back at the GBP contract? Let me repeat, DAZN had DLH as an approved opponent for Canelo.

          Was Oscar’s plan to bite a bullet and salvage a Canelo date for Q4 by fighting an opponent similar the way RJJ and Tyson were lined up with? DAZN took Oscar’s approach and hit back at him to say, “we’ll if you’re willing to fight how about you fight Canelo?!” These is Hearn conspiring too.

          Don’t be surprised that after everyone is compensated or resolved to end this lawsuit, that Matchroom plans to sign Canelo. This way the board at DAZN doesn’t have to work with GBP and instead with Matchroom.
          If even remotely true, that is deep conspiratorial thinking on Hearn's part. The best thing for Canelo and for boxing in general would be for DAZN to negotiate a buy out of the rest of Canelo's contract and for Canelo to cut himself loose from Oscar and GB. I think this outcome has real possibilities. We shall see.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Ant1979 View Post
            Meanwhile (judging by those photos) Oscar's plans of an immediate comeback are going swimmingly!
            Stress eating no doubt

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
              No doubt. Many cats said that from day 1.

              Even if they thought AJ was gonna become the next big mainstream HW champion who'd be bigger than Canelo once he took that nasty KO L they shoulda pivoted to a more Oscar & Canelo-centric battle plan worse case.

              And I think they were also betting on Eddie winning over America like he won the UK which also early on seemed like a bad bet also. Having a bad plan happens, but you gotta pivot not keep on riding out the bad plan.
              Beautifully written, agree with all points made here

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              • #57
                Oscar’s playing both sides.
                He used Canelo’s name to secure a deal for his fighters but is trying to blame DAZN for the tension he caused.
                Like Oscar and Mayweather before him, it’s time for Canelo to break away from the big promoter and do his own thing.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by GBP4LIFE View Post
                  Completely agree.. issue is they wanted a white guy in Eddie Hearn to be the face of their company, DAZN owns part of Matchroom USA.
                  Bingo!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Verus View Post
                    If even remotely true, that is deep conspiratorial thinking on Hearn's part. The best thing for Canelo and for boxing in general would be for DAZN to negotiate a buy out of the rest of Canelo's contract and for Canelo to cut himself loose from Oscar and GB. I think this outcome has real possibilities. We shall see.
                    DAZN is acting ******. The best thing to do is resolve and learn from 2020. Does DAZN want to act naive about elite level approval or are they in the business of circus shows? They cant even appreciate the ownership of Jacobs and Kovalev on their back catalogue.

                    The best resolve is to give Canelo his 8million difference from what he agreed; the 30% cut. Which is 24million for a “premium shows” and acknowledge that Smith and BJS are premium fighters.

                    DAZN needs to forget about $17mil which is what they want to give Canelo for Smith and BJs.

                    So all this hassle is 8million give or take. DAZN is acting ****** if they can’t resolve this for the time being.

                    Just give Canelo the fight at the premium $24mil and take back their list of the UFC fighters because they are seriously taking the piss should they take that to court.

                    DAZN would ideally not have even entertained such a ridiculous list.

                    Then in 2021 everyone should sit down and revise the contracts.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Al Broker View Post
                      Because Canelo’s contract with DAZN is a GBP contract. So technically Canelo has to sue GBP. Canelo is suing DAZN for their attempts in approval process that affects the GBP contract.

                      People don’t realize but Canelo is doing Oscar the favor because GBP is pointing fingers to DAZN. GBP can’t make the fights unless of course GBP pays the difference of opponents which wasn’t agreed upon from the beginning. GBp can’t make the fights or have the final say for what’s to be shown on DAZN.
                      Not accurate.

                      Canelo is asking the court to rule that he can "participate in bouts arranged and promoted by en****** other than Golden
                      Boy Promotions."

                      Canelo could have sued DAZN and GB without asking for that. But instead he is asking the court to void his contract with GB. That's not doing a favor for GB

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