Comments Thread For: De La Hoya on DAZN Frustrations: 'They're Not Living Up To Their Contract'

[Ant1979]

Meanwhile (judging by those photos) Oscar's plans of an immediate comeback are going swimmingly!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Canelo is being utterly self centered, indefatigable, which implies he care not for the overall health of the sport which has bowed and sc****d to him on many occasions.
The standard was initally set by European football stars who willingly took pay cuts along with back rrom staff to keep the game on life support.
DAZN had no idea this pandemic was coming, no one did, and most reasonable people realise what was is not what is.

Except for Alvarez. I have always thaought he was a bit of a ******, but this completely confirms it for me.

If the P4P rankings included depth of character then Canelo would be outta there. Selfish f*^k. He's still going to be receiving megabucks for fighting just twice a year, and only once a year is he expected to fight someone who is respectable.

I don't care who he fights, as long as it's against an opponent who isn't on their way to journeyman or heavy bag status. The GGG fight doesn't interest me anymore as Golovkin is nearing 40, and Canelo has his number, do it will be entertaining but a decision for carrott boy.
Saunders, or Smith are decent opponents, as are Charlo, Munguia, Andrade, and a whole host of young fighters.

But we know Canelo will pick according to the Mayweather business model: Get ém while they're coming off a tough fight, make weight demands, dictate everything from ring size, to gloves, referees, judges, ring walk, and even what toilet paper is to be used.

I hope the bum loses and has to cough up most of what he's earn't in legal fees - that will force him to take the riskiest fights for the biggest rewards - unless he is happy fighting Ryoto Murata's and Rocky Fieldings until retirement.

I think you’re lying that you box tbh... I’ve been to countless gyms over the years and nobody ever talks about the politics regarding fighters. I know plenty of Uzbeks, Russians, Germans, and when we’re in the gym we talk about Canelo or GGG techniques all the time. There’s never any sentiment the way you complain about. You know FIGHTING is more difficult and appreciative than the erroneous theory or criticism your suggest...

If you envy Martinez’s disability, knowing Canelo has had knee problems - or if you yourself dip or do traditional defensive squat maneuvers while pivoting or countering then you’d appreciate everything that Canelo does in fights by technique and skill alone.

So why are you crying? It’s unrealistic.

Martinez is the same age as me, I work out 3-4 times a week sometimes more - and the difference between my reflex's, speed, power etc from 10 years ago are noticeable.

I have a torn meniscus (knee) torn shoulder blade muscle, rotator cuff wear, and a bulging disc in my lower back. Those injuries really do manifest more than before, and I have to walk the tightrope, so Sergio gets full kudos from me just for getting in the ring.

[GBP4LIFE]

I thought the Cambell / Garcia fight had been signed ?

There clearly remains money issues with that card according to this article

[Eff Pandas]

Golden Boy should have been the promoter in charge of making DAZN USA cards.

Instead they are not even giving Oscar any dates now.

Complete incompetence from DAZN.

No doubt. Many cats said that from day 1.

Even if they thought AJ was gonna become the next big mainstream HW champion who'd be bigger than Canelo once he took that nasty KO L they shoulda pivoted to a more Oscar & Canelo-centric battle plan worse case.

And I think they were also betting on Eddie winning over America like he won the UK which also early on seemed like a bad bet also. Having a bad plan happens, but you gotta pivot not keep on riding out the bad plan.

[GBP4LIFE]

As soon as lawyers are involved, everyone loses. Everyone loses money in court fees. Everyone loses TV revenue in a time they can lest afford to. Everyone loses whatever good PR they had. Everyone loses any hope of salvaging a decent working relationship. Everyone loses time in the ring doing what they love as all this gets hashed out.

And yes... fans lose interesting match ups and big fights.

This is why boxing fans drink.

Completely agree.. which is why Canelo making this move is completely asinine. Dude created this problem, and continues to dig the ditch.

[GBP4LIFE]

Rumor is Thomas Hauser getting ready to do a hit piece on Hearn and DAZN associates

Will be an excellent read... It needs to drop soon, put some heat on DAZN to respond.

[GBP4LIFE]

Canelo is being utterly self centered, indefatigable, which implies he care not for the overall health of the sport which has bowed and sc****d to him on many occasions.
The standard was initally set by European football stars who willingly took pay cuts along with back rrom staff to keep the game on life support.
DAZN had no idea this pandemic was coming, no one did, and most reasonable people realise what was is not what is.

Except for Alvarez. I have always thaought he was a bit of a ******, but this completely confirms it for me.

If the P4P rankings included depth of character then Canelo would be outta there. Selfish f*^k. He's still going to be receiving megabucks for fighting just twice a year, and only once a year is he expected to fight someone who is respectable.

I don't care who he fights, as long as it's against an opponent who isn't on their way to journeyman or heavy bag status. The GGG fight doesn't interest me anymore as Golovkin is nearing 40, and Canelo has his number, do it will be entertaining but a decision for carrott boy.
Saunders, or Smith are decent opponents, as are Charlo, Munguia, Andrade, and a whole host of young fighters.

But we know Canelo will pick according to the Mayweather business model: Get ém while they're coming off a tough fight, make weight demands, dictate everything from ring size, to gloves, referees, judges, ring walk, and even what toilet paper is to be used.

I hope the bum loses and has to cough up most of what he's earn't in legal fees - that will force him to take the riskiest fights for the biggest rewards - unless he is happy fighting Ryoto Murata's and Rocky Fieldings until retirement.

Canelo & CHEPO are certainly part of the problem.. All Canelo had to do was listen to Oscar and face GGG LAST YR.. he refused!!! Then his fight was pushed back from September to November, and Canelo pushed for his buddy Kovalev to be given a huge retirement check. Canelo overplayed his hand and now he’s reaping what he sow.

[KING5TWENTY]

Yea Dazn from the start obviously didn't know what they were doing by having inexperienced Hearn handle the us fights instead of Oscar who was in and promoted the biggest fights In history. Now we have random lower level English guys headling our cards instead of golden boys stable. Absolutely unfathomable

[Scopedog]

While I've got my su****ions as to what's really going on with all this and who exactly is to blame, I don't think anyone in this whole she**** is entirely without blame. Just look at their personalities. Hearn can be obtuse and difficult and hard to bargain with, Oscar is coked out and seems to be overly sensitive to criticism and is constantly feuding with people, and Canelo is a huge diva. I think the best thing for everyone is for this lawsuit to be dropped in return for Canelo being released from his contract. I also think it's better for BG and Canelo both if Canelo leaves Golden Boy and becomes a free agent under his own brand - he's got the cash and the clout to do it. It's been a loveless marriage between Oscar and Saul for a long while now and it's better for everyone, most of all the fans, if they divorce as cleanly as possible.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Will be an excellent read... It needs to drop soon, put some heat on DAZN to respond.

A lot of members on the forum are confused. They think this is about Canelo wanting the full pay compensation.

It was documented that Canelo was willing to take a 30% cut, not a 50% cut.

So DAZN’s move was 20%. Keep in mind DAZN did approve Canelo’s request of a 30% cut for the Smith, BJS names. DAZN still wanted the 50% cut for these fighters because they weren’t “premier” fights.

Look at European Leagues and their propaganda. Messi and Ronaldo agreed to a 70% for 4 months only. The difference is that these footballers were STILL MAKING money and now back to their full salaries. Those reports for football was just due diligence PR and corporate responsibility to get consumers STILL loyal to football ratings or subs for whatever European platform.

Canelo however, is already in the CLEAR months post pandemic the way these footballers are now in the clear to receive their usual pay. Point is why does DAZN have to apply previous pandemic circumstances for Q4? Canelo already lost a May date as did DAZN. Canelo brings the numbers. DAZN is just being selfish and insecure. They want a spectacle fight against a UFC fighter to make higher deliverance. That’s like the European leagues making the Final Championship games sooner for what? Quicker financial recovery?

Canelo will win the case.