It was not a lucky punch at all

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    There’s no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing.

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    • Earl-Hickey
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      #12
      A lucky punch to me needs two things

      1. Come against the run of the fight

      2. Be a shot that ordinarily wouldn't land. I.e comes off a ****** error by the recipient that he wouldn't normally make.

      This one had 1, but it didn't have 2 as Whyte was open for it the whole fight.

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        #13
        Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
        A lucky punch to me needs two things

        1. Come against the run of the fight

        2. Be a shot that ordinarily wouldn't land. I.e comes off a ****** error by the recipient that he wouldn't normally make.

        This one had 1, but it didn't have 2 as Whyte was open for it the whole fight.
        Is it luck though? Povetkin certainly wasn't any, it was well planned.

        I dont think there's such things as a lucky punch in boxing because the boxer has meant to throw the/a punch...

        I think we associate the luck with the situation of the fight, to which in Whytes and Povetkin case, it seems lucky because Whyte was on top and seemingly in control right up until a single movement and a single punch. It seemingly came from nowhere to us watching but Povetkin set him up for it using the reasons you stated (open for it)

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        • Toffee
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          #14
          Originally posted by Ray*
          I don't get that at all...Pre-fight i said Whyte shouldn't have taken this fight.



          The only idiots who called it a cherrypick were the same ones who called Ruiz a cherrypick. For one, Povetkin is a great amateur and pro, he might be 40 but he has the experience to go with that 40.

          The same people who hype up Luis Ortiz who has achieved nothing as a pro or amateur. Watch how everyone else cherrypick who they fight, We have Ruiz coming back and fighting Arreola.....
          I agree, you don't underrate Povetkin and I said the same before the fight.

          Those calling 'cherry pick', let's be honest, do the same before any Matchroom fight.

          But, Whyte was the favourite, and he was well on top. Anyone saying they fully expected that after Round 4 is kidding themselves.

          And, yes, it was a beautiful punch. I'm not 100% about the 'set up' people are claiming, to me it just looked like a move Povetkin had in his locker and he executed it perfectly when the chance came.

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          • champion4ever
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            #15
            Originally posted by TMLT87
            I honestly dont get why some people were treating this like its some shocking upset.
            Did you see Povetkin's last fight with Michael Hunter? He was damn near KO. He looked very old and got his asswhooped. He received a gift Draw from the judges.

            Michael Hunter was robbed in that fight. That was the reason why Matchroom and Eddie Hearn cherrypicked Povetkin because he appeared so frail and vulnerable in that fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              There’s no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing.
              Cannot emphasise this enough!

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                #17
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Did you see Povetkin's last fight with Michael Hunter? He was damn near KO. He looked very old and got his asswhooped. He received a gift Draw from the judges.

                Michael Hunter was robbed in that fight. That was the reason why Matchroom and Eddie Hearn cherrypicked Povetkin because he appeared so frail and vulnerable in that fight.
                Hunter is very underrated though. Plus Whyte was there that same night looking like absolute **** against Wach, not to mention the guy went life and death with Chisora twice.

                If Hearn considers Povetkin a cherrypick for a guy at Whytes level hes drastically overrating how good Whyte actually is.

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                • djif
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                  #18
                  Hunter is one of the most talented boxers at cw/hw.
                  The only reason he can't make a real noise at hw is his size.
                  The fact Pov went distance with him should have shown Pov is no near to be shot or mentally retired.
                  But it seems guys from Whyte's camp missed it..)

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TMLT87
                    Hunter is very underrated though. Plus Whyte was there that same night looking like absolute **** against Wach, not to mention the guy went life and death with Chisora twice.

                    If Hearn considers Povetkin a cherrypick for a guy at Whytes level hes drastically overrating how good Whyte actually is.
                    I agree; Actually he was overrated. He was never on the same level as Wilder, Fury and Joshua to begin with.

                    He along with many boxing fans alike saw a fight with Povetkin as a mismatch. Most people on this forum thought that Whyte was picking on an old aging fighter who was well past his prime and on the decline.

                    Eddie Hearn felt the same way about Andy Ruiz too. He never thought Ruiz has a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Anthony Joshua. However, he did. Both were cherrypicks gone wrong. I have to admit, that Matchroom sure knows how to match make

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      I agree; Actually he was overrated. He was never on the same level as Wilder, Fury and Joshua to begin with.

                      He along with many boxing fans alike saw a fight with Povetkin as a mismatch. Most people on this forum thought that Whyte was picking on an old aging fighter who was well past his prime and on the decline.

                      Eddie Hearn felt the same way about Andy Ruiz too. He never thought Ruiz has a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Anthony Joshua. However, he did. Both were cherrypicks gone wrong. I have to admit, that Matchroom sure knows how to match make
                      And your suggestion to Matchroom is... mismatches?

                      Fighters will sometimes lose in decent fights that people will be prepared to pay to watch.

                      The alternative is fighting bums in fights no-one wants to see, so no-one gets paid.

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