After getting into UFC, boxing has become so boring

[Marchegiano]

Yeah good points. I'm a casual so I only watch UFC and was under the impression that best MMA fighters were under that banner.

Kinda

They buy the best up I'll give them that, but, it's hard to call their Pride guys prime after the purchase. Hard to call their SF guys prime after the purchase too.

Overeem vs Lesnar would have been a great best vs best sort of fight in 2010. Unfortunately we needed to wait until the UFC owned StrikeForce and by then both Brock and Alistair looked and performed on a lesser level. They were champions, when they fought they were contenders on the slide down. Now, AO is still pretty good, gatekeeper type, while Brock is totally useless.


Wand and Chuck are very similar.

Hell, even their ladies division. Was Ronda ever really the best woman on the planet? Baddest woman on the planet? No, but it took a while to get Cyborg up in that **** and by the time she had both her and Ronda got their asses handed to them by *****es who were active during their reigns. Hmm.




Point is, if you're always buying new orgs and those fighters from those new orgs kick the **** out of your fighters it's pretty telling your ass didn't have the best until you bought them and the whole time you claimed to you were lying.

[mlac]

ground game is part of mma... bjj, wrestling, etc...

that's pretty much the same as a boxer clinching and holding or being very defensive.. yet yall have no problems with this because "that's part of boxing"...

Im not talking about the submissions or whatever, im talking about dudes that literally are lying on top of each other, lying on the fence etc.

i appreciate the skillset for jujitsu but if you like watching wrestling then each to his own i find it absolutely awful to watch. The amount of times ive seen a UFC fight where a guy has a clear skillset advantage, knocks the other guy down, the other guy just grabs hold and then lies on top, manages to survive, grabs hold of the guy in the next round, does nothing but lay on him and then wins a decision. I dont see how the 'skill' of balance and momentum of falling on the ground can be entertaining to people?

I dont know why you are trying to put words in my mouth because i cant stand constant clinching and holding either, i find watching Andre Ward is painfull.

[TMLT87]

So when does Miocic fight Bader or Vera?

Oh, yeah i'm good.

Dude, I get what you're saying in principle but come on. Bader had multiple losses in the UFC at LHW, including to Jones who might fight Stipe next. He beat ****ing King Mo, Meathead and the 42 year old ghost of Fedor to win the Bellator HW title, then defended it against 45 year old Kongo, a guy who was a fringe top 10 HW in the UFC in his prime like a decade ago.

As for Vera? the guy ****ing sucks, another guy in his 40s who got wrecked repeatedly in the UFC in his prime a decade ago (including a loss to Randy who is 57 years old now for ****s sake!)

If Stipe fought Bader over Jones or a Ngannou rematch people would think it was dumb. If he fought Vera people would be like "what the ****?"

It aint exactly Spence/Crawford or AJ/Fury.

[LacedUp]

The best in one organisation fight the best, mayhaps. The best in the UFC are not necessarily the best in the sport of MMA though, believe it or not. It is akin to calling the PBC stable a sport in it's own right. "I watch PBC!", "I'm a big fan of the PBC!", "This guy is the best PBC fighter in the World doe!" People do actually say these things, but they're generally the most mentally deficient posters we have on here.

That's not at all the same

[LacedUp]

How many guys belong in the top 10 in the world outside the UFC besides Demetrious Johnson and Douglas Lima?
You can't compare PBC with the UFC, the UFC has 90% of the top dogs at least.

Michael Venom Page and Michael Chandler could/should both be in the UFC imo.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Im not talking about the submissions or whatever, im talking about dudes that literally are lying on top of each other, lying on the fence etc.

i appreciate the skillset for jujitsu but if you like watching wrestling then each to his own i find it absolutely awful to watch. I dont know why you are trying to put words in my mouth because i cant stand constant clinching and holding either, i find watching Andre Ward is painfull.

well.. how they suppose to get a submission if they cant roll around? aint no mofo is just gonna extend his arms out to you freely and let you submit him... all im saying is that if you have a problem with that then you should be complaining about clinching and holding in boxing too which does nothing but buy time for the guy grabbing and holding to recover.

[mlac]

well.. how they suppose to get a submission if they cant roll around? aint no mofo is just gonna extend his arms out to you freely and let you submit him... all im saying is that if you have a problem with that then you should be complaining about clinching and holding in boxing too which does nothing but buy time for the guy grabbing and holding to recover.

I dont know what you are even arguing. Im not talking about guys trying to get submissions, again. i will repeat for the 3rd time. im talking about guys laying on each other on the fence and on the floor, not really doing anything. but apparantly lying ontop of someone wins you the round?

[LacedUp]

I dont know what you are even arguing. Im not talking about guys trying to get submissions, again. i will repeat for the 3rd time. im talking about guys laying on each other on the fence and on the floor, not really doing anything. but apparantly lying ontop of someone wins you the round?

Each to their own of course. I'm also not a huge fan of the wrestling style, but it's not like every other fight in the UFC is purely on the ground.

It happens very rarely. Especially in main event / main card fights. The last thing Dana White wants is a stinker main event and so these guys don't fight main events.

[LacedUp]

Covid has just slumped the sport. We will get past it. Dana White beat the pvssified system is all

I'm just saying it's going to take a lot for me personally to start getting hyped for a boxing match.

There's just so much damn talk and so little action and it's always been that way and it's boring as ***

[MPDKSAB]

When you can afford to pay your fighters the bear minimum for street fights this is watu get. I'm happy for boxers making more for putting their livelihoods on the line for our entertainment. The obvious is that the UFC puts the money that "should" go to the fighters in to promoting them & their events.

Fans just wanna see guys take punches but could care less about how they're set up AFTER they can no longer fight. But be the same people who express empathy when the fighter they grew up watching can't speak, has brain damage, an is financially unstable.