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  • LacedUp
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    #41
    Originally posted by Marchegiano
    Competitive? Pretty sure I just said he has no competition regardless of which ranking system

    Who in the entire sport is a legit threat to Stipe? Cormier again? Francis again? Some fools they beat?
    You were saying Cormier got beat, conor got beat, francis got beat etc.

    Yes they got beat because it's ***ing competitive It's not like boxing where peeps go 30-0 before even touching a live body in some cases.

    I don't think you can say Francis is not a threat to stipe. that's ridiculous despite what happened in the first fight. Stipe was knocked out cold in the first round against DC, but still came back and beat him twice. Every fight is different, especially in the UFC.

    But yeah, since Jon Jones literally announced his move to heavy today I think there's more than enough for Stipe to watch out for.

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    • YNG
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      #42
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Michael Venom Page and Michael Chandler could/should both be in the UFC imo.
      Recently Benson Henderson was doing really good against Chandler before the ko and Henderson wasn't doing that great in his last days in the UFC. Page has talent but he's been moved way too slow and he isn't that young. I think both are good but not Top 10 in the world.

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      • TMLT87
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        #43
        Originally posted by Marchegiano
        Pretty sure the UFC can figure out how to sell an undisputed MMA champ.

        I mean look at DC, he's second best in two divisions and they act like that makes him godly.

        Conor gets his ass kicked every other fight and still out sells the rest of the sport.

        It's not that big a deal. Act like those boys have come a long way and pose a real threat. Put Stipe on 'em trouney style like old Pride or K-1 bull and have Stipe walk through Bader and Vera in one night. Bam, no more pretenders to the throne.


        Or, conversely:

        Ngannou - Already got whooped

        Blaydes - Got beat by Ngannou

        Rovenstruik (spelling?) Beat old men and no bodies.

        Lewis - Loses to old men

        Overeem - Is old man

        JDS - Should retire!

        Vokov - Got his ass kicked by Blaydes

        Sakai - Maybe, bit low in the ranking but I dunno that fella.

        Harris - Needs a good win against a top contender who is neither JDS nor AO cause those guys are basically no hopers at this point.





        It's the same in boxing. I do not give a **** about Whyte. If he beats Pov I'll continue to not give a **** about Whyte. If he grabs him that WBC he's been trying for I'll give a **** about Whyte.

        I don't honestly give a **** about Francis. He's good, he deserves a rematch, he's whooped the other contenders, but, he doesn't bring anything but another W to Stipe. At least Vera and Bader got belts.

        You know you'd think an undisputed MMA champ would be cool.


        Who before Stipe earned that right? It'd be a cool way to cap that career. Let him bust up the pretenders at the other orgs because he's done busted the UFC a new ******* AND it's kinda a guarantee he wins.
        But DC is legit top 10 all time in terms of resume. His timing was unlucky because he would have been Jon Jones in that LHW division if Jones himself never came along. His credibility is way above Bader.

        Conor is still riding on the back of **** he did in 2015/16. Remember hes only fought twice since then. Hes trying to milk things as long as he can. If he'd fought 2-3 times a year from 2017 onwards the novelty would have worn off a long time ago probably.

        I'm not saying i'd say no to Bader vs Stipe, but I dont think many fans would actually ask for that fight over Stipe/Jones or Stipe/Ngannou 2. Its not like the situation in boxing where fans are begging for years for fights between the clear #1 and #2 guys in the division to get made.

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        • sicko
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          #44
          Yeah I've been watching way more UFC over Boxing and UFC and I must admit it is indeed way more "Consistently Entertaining"

          Boxing needs to do better because UFC is now a very good alternative especially for Casual Sports fans but also UFC has a lot of fighters with Personalities and who can sell fights to casual viewers

          nobody is going to wait around for the "Build Up" "Marination Process" for big fights, like the UFC you have to consistently roll out big fights in this ERA

          So yeah more UFC for me until Boxing gets its sh^t together! I look forward to Israel Adesanya vs. Paulo Costa more than any Boxing Match coming up
          Last edited by sicko; 08-20-2020, 12:49 PM.

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          • TMLT87
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            #45
            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            Man guys with double digit loses in UFC become champs. Giys with 1-2 years experience become champs.
            Name names then.

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            • Marchegiano
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              #46
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              You were saying Cormier got beat, conor got beat, francis got beat etc.

              Yes they got beat because it's ***ing competitive It's not like boxing where peeps go 30-0 before even touching a live body in some cases.

              I don't think you can say Francis is not a threat to stipe. that's ridiculous despite what happened in the first fight. Stipe was knocked out cold in the first round against DC, but still came back and beat him twice. Every fight is different, especially in the UFC.

              But yeah, since Jon Jones literally announced his move to heavy today I think there's more than enough for Stipe to watch out for.
              There's context to the post I responded to, it's not my fault you're either too lazy or ****** to recognize it.

              Okay, JJ, then what?

              It's a pretty shallow division he's already ran through. So shallow you named one guy and said Francis might have been nothing the first go but now...kinda the exact promo package I said they use all the damn time and can for other fighters.

              I don't understand the brand loyalty. Have him fight UFC fighters he's already beaten because he's probably going to beat the **** show champs in the **** shows?

              He probably beats Francis again too....you know this.

              JJ's hardly a man to hang out for. He'll likely get the fight and **** it up regardless of how well he fights....you know this.


              So, outside of handing guys like Bader a payday, the **** are you arguing for?

              UFC is real competitive, so competitive their HWs need LHW to bring a threat to their HW champ. Super-duper competitive.


              Like you know, Conor being able to skip ranks, fight when he wants, who he wants, lose, be inactive, be handed easy fights, still get seen as one of the best p4p active fighters....super competitive.

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #47
                Just got into UFC and I can’t get with the grappling and wrestling but I’ll watch the kickboxing aspect of it!

                Hey can anyone recommend the best kickboxing league?

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TMLT87
                  Name names then.
                  Brock Lesnar. Holly Holmes, Overem has what 18 losses??

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                  • Marchegiano
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TMLT87
                    But DC is legit top 10 all time in terms of resume. His timing was unlucky because he would have been Jon Jones in that LHW division if Jones himself never came along. His credibility is way above Bader.

                    Conor is still riding on the back of **** he did in 2015/16. Remember hes only fought twice since then. Hes trying to milk things as long as he can. If he'd fought 2-3 times a year from 2017 onwards the novelty would have worn off a long time ago probably.

                    I'm not saying i'd say no to Bader vs Stipe, but I dont think many fans would actually ask for that fight over Stipe/Jones or Stipe/Ngannou 2. Its not like the situation in boxing where fans are begging for years for fights between the clear #1 and #2 guys in the division to get made.
                    They don't know to ask for it. MMA fans who have no overlap or connection to boxing don't understand undisputed. They think undisputed UFC means undisputed MMA.

                    I'm not trying to say those are better fights. I'm just saying since he's cleaned out the division let him clean out the sport before he rides off on us, and, I do not honestly believe it's a hard sell.

                    Pretty sure UFC vs Bellator sells itself.

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                    • Bob Haymon
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                      #50
                      I just can't get into watching guys humping each other inside of a cage.

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