After getting into UFC, boxing has become so boring

[LacedUp]

False. Tyson Fury is the Highest Paid Combat Sports Athlete of the past year. Canelo would have been with his DAZN contract but since COVID-19 then Tyson Fury became the Highest Paid Fighter in the world. Funny you call me an accountant then you put something out there which is not true and I post evidence to support that your claim is False. If you can not take that Top level boxers are higher paid then mma fighters than there is literally no point to talk to you.

I have no problem with anyone opinion on what sport they prefer more but fighter pay at the top level of the two sports is simply not comparable. Keep in mind that the name of the game is literally "Prize Fighting." The athletes from all over the globe come from poverty and literally try to fight their way out of it.

4 Boxers in the Top 30 Highest Paid Athletes in all of Sports. (Fury #11, Joshua #19, Wilder #20, Canelo #30)


https://www.forbes.com/athletes/#5d5f860b55ae

McGregor didn't fight in 2019 dumbo

His last two purses have been higher combined than Fury's whole career. His last three combined have been more than Fury, Wilder and AJ combined.

His net worth is also more than all three combined.

[HewJohnson]

In the last decade of sports the #1 Highest Paid Athlete was a boxer. 2 boxers were in the top 10 Highest Paid Athletes of the last decade. This is very telling. Mayweather and Pacquiao are top of the food chain in all sports. The money in top level boxing is so much higher it is not even comparable.

I don't understand people who say mma or ufc is so big and popular yet none of mma fighters are ever on the 100 Highest Paid Athletes List. Thoughts???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad.../#2c6a9f9072d9

1st, nobody is arguing that boxers are paid less/more.
The acknowledgment is that UFC is the bigger sport than boxing in this day & age.

2nd, No boxer nor UFC compares to Floyd or Manny in earnings. They are not good examples of boxing earnings.
Plus, Mcgregor has made more than any of those aforementioned boxers in his career who’s name is not PAC/May.

You’re arguing the wrong argument. Pull up PPV sales/Viewers ratings for both boxing events and UFC events for the past 4 years and you will see UFC has outdone boxing. Probably tremendously.

Exclude Mayweather/Mcg bout.

[TMLT87]

You don't see the problem here???

Top money attracts top talent. The way ufc treats their athletes and only paying fighters 18% of the revenue that comes in is an absolutely massive problem. mma fighters are some of the lowest paid athletes on the planet and is a large reason why their athletes are not top elite athletes in all of sports. NFL, NBA, Soccer, MLB, Boxing all have a way bigger talent pool than mma does.

There are gigantic disparities in the size of the talent pools between those "elite athletes" sports you just listed too even though you're trying to group them together. Boxings talent pool is going to be absolutely miniscule compared to soccers or even American football, so by your own logic boxers cant be "top elite athletes" either.


Its honestly just assumption that boxing has a much bigger talent pool than MMA at this point anyway. The only real way to get any perspective on this is to look at active pro boxers listed on Boxrec vs active pro MMA fighters listed on Tapology, and based on that the gap isnt as big as you'd think. Nowhere near as big as the gap between boxing and the sports you grouped it in with.

[TMLT87]

Boxing fans are probably the only sports fanbase that brag about the money their favorite boxers make.

Is that the Mayweather effect?

I'm a big NBA fan and even the Jordan vs LeBron debates never devolve about the money they've made or who made more.

Its because at this point its basically the only thing to cling to to make it seem like boxing is bigger.

[Mextli99]

Its because at this point its basically the only thing to cling to to make it seem like boxing is bigger.

**** makes no sense. They make all this money and fight bums and their fanboys are ready to hop on their tips.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Yes because you haven't taken the time to get into it.

Because I am boxing fan, not MMA fan.

I tried, but I really don`t care.

[TMLT87]

Pull up PPV sales/Viewers ratings for both boxing events and UFC events for the past 4 years and you will see UFC has outdone boxing. Probably tremendously.

Pretty much.

When it comes to tv ratings, UFC on ESPN massively overshadows Top Rank on the same network, ****s all over PBC on Showtime, and does comparable viewers to PBC on Fox even though Fox has a wider reach in America than ESPN. As far as international viewing figures, no real way to find out, but i'll go out on a limb and guess that the UFC does much better numbers globally than any singular boxing promotions, because its a more internationally recognizable brand than PBC, Top Rank etc and tours all over the world frequently.


As for PPV, the UFC already started being the more consistent draw in the late 00s. Its just that at the time Floyd and Pac were giving boxing 2-3 big PPVs each year, while nothing else in boxing could break 500k. In the 5 years since Floyd/Pac happened the UFC has broken a million buys on PPV 10 times, boxing has done it 5, and one of those was Floyd vs an MMA fighter.

The UFC has much stronger online engagement too on social media, Youtube etc.

This is precisely why people clutch to "oh but boxers make more money doe".

[mp1110]

Another boxing fan accountant.

How much another man makes is none of my business. Just pointing out the obvious hurdles.

[HewJohnson]

Pretty much.

When it comes to tv ratings, UFC on ESPN massively overshadows Top Rank on the same network, ****s all over PBC on Showtime, and does comparable viewers to PBC on Fox even though Fox has a wider reach in America than ESPN. As far as international viewing figures, no real way to find out, but i'll go out on a limb and guess that the UFC does much better numbers globally than any singular boxing promotions, because its a more internationally recognizable brand than PBC, Top Rank etc and tours all over the world frequently.


As for PPV, the UFC already started being the more consistent draw in the late 00s. Its just that at the time Floyd and Pac were giving boxing 2-3 big PPVs each year, while nothing else in boxing could break 500k. In the 5 years since Floyd/Pac happened the UFC has broken a million buys on PPV 10 times, boxing has done it 5, and one of those was Floyd vs an MMA fighter.

The UFC has much stronger online engagement too on social media, Youtube etc.

This is precisely why people clutch to "oh but boxers make more money doe".

**** just look at this year alone.

How many big PPV events has UFC already put on successfully?

Like what? 4-5 big number PPV events by UFC this year with a bunch of regularly televised events.

Has boxing had a big PPV event this year yet??
I don’t think so, unless I’m forgetting.
The top boxers don’t even want to FOOKING fight each other for Christ sakes. That’s the problem.

[TMLT87]

Has boxing had a big PPV event this year yet??

Fury/Wilder 2!

But yeah, the UFC just moves a lot faster. Semi big fights/cards every few weeks, it keeps the buzz in the air, whereas boxing is much more sporadic.