After getting into UFC, boxing has become so boring

[TMLT87]

Just an FYI - The Charlo Brothers card and Tank vs Leo Santa Cruz are both on the same night as 2 BIG UFC match ups. Trust and believe you're very likely not going to hear "Official" buys for the Charlo card or Tank vs Leo. They're both getting crushed. It's not a knock at all to the PBC / Boxing because I'm watching both BUT from a commercial standpoint, those UFC PPVs are going to generate a lot more revenue.

They probably would have bombed even if they were both unopposed, well below 300k buys for either imo. The fact they are scheduled to clash with likely the two biggest UFC cards remaining this year is going to be absolutely ****ing brutal.

[RL_GMA]

They probably would have bombed even if they were both unopposed, well below 300k buys for either imo. The fact they are scheduled to clash with likely the two biggest UFC cards remaining this year is going to be absolutely ****ing brutal.

Yea you're probably right. I feel while the PBC out of all the "Outfits" have put on a better string of cards, it's VERY odd that a lot of those guys are still rather unknown to the general public. Boxing PPVs were almost always made based on the Match Up and or the popularity of a particular fighter(s) that brought in heavy revenue that putting on a PPV made sense. Both Charlos and Tank aren't "radar movers" no matter what Leonard Ellerbe or the PBC in general want to shove down our throats.

[Albanianboxing]

I have no problem with mma or ufc. I am simply stating that Top level boxers earn much much more money and I think that is a very important element giving that money makes the world go around and why the biggest star mma has ever seen went to fight in boxing to make the most money that he could. I have no problem with people not caring about another man money and just following the fights. That's cool. You clinging to Conor earnings would be like a boxing fan clinging to Mayweather earnings (which complete dominate Conor). Economics in the fight game mean a ton which is why there is a lot of attention paid to it. I follow Basketball, Baseball and the NFL and I don't care at all about the money in that because that is not what solely drives the sport but money dictates everything in the fight game.

Conor is retired. Jon Jones wanted more money and Dana said you won't get Deontay Wilder money... He even went on to say that you will not get half of Deontay Wilder money.

One thing also is that Top level boxing matches gates are SIGNIFICANTLY higher than mma.

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_MMA_Gates/

There really is no debate between who has the bigger gates and what sport stars are paid the most. These are just facts. I think mma/ufc blows boxing out of the water with certain things they do in reaching young fans and marketing on Social Media. But it's a young sport that is on a great path. It's just not "taken over" boxing in certain aspects and it has in certain other aspects for sure.

[rickJen]

I have no problem with mma or ufc. I am simply stating that Top level boxers earn much much more money and I think that is a very important element...

Only the fighters in the main card get 90% share of the pie.
You talk as if the undercards in boxing get the same amount.
The money in the UFC is spread out, which is far better.

[Albanianboxing]

Only the fighters in the main card get 90% share of the pie.
You talk as if the undercards in boxing get the same amount.
The money in the UFC is spread out, which is far better.

This is the best article that i have seen regarding fighter pay between the two sports with a lot of research and stats to show the facts. It is not pretty for either sport honestly.

"While it is readily apparent that most athletes from both sports make very little, it appears as if MMA fighters on average are worse off than their boxing counterparts." John S. Nash

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2...n-mma-fighters

[TMLT87]

I have no problem with mma or ufc. I am simply stating that Top level boxers earn much much more money and I think that is a very important element giving that money makes the world go around and why the biggest star mma has ever seen went to fight in boxing to make the most money that he could. I have no problem with people not caring about another man money and just following the fights. That's cool. You clinging to Conor earnings would be like a boxing fan clinging to Mayweather earnings (which complete dominate Conor). Economics in the fight game mean a ton which is why there is a lot of attention paid to it. I follow Basketball, Baseball and the NFL and I don't care at all about the money in that because that is not what solely drives the sport but money dictates everything in the fight game.

Conor is retired. Jon Jones wanted more money and Dana said you won't get Deontay Wilder money... He even went on to say that you will not get half of Deontay Wilder money.

One thing also is that Top level boxing matches gates are SIGNIFICANTLY higher than mma.

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_MMA_Gates/

There really is no debate between who has the bigger gates and what sport stars are paid the most. These are just facts. I think mma/ufc blows boxing out of the water with certain things they do in reaching young fans and marketing on Social Media. But it's a young sport that is on a great path. It's just not "taken over" boxing in certain aspects and it has in certain other aspects for sure.

Boxers are overpaid relative to what they draw, while UFC fighters are underpaid.

Spence and Garcia got a guaranteed purse of $3m each for a fight that did 375,000 PPV buys.

Pac got a guaranteed $10m and Thurman $2.5m for a fight that did 500k buys.

The purse for Wilder/Ortiz 2 was $3m and $1.5m respectively, and it did 275k buys.

Crawford and Khan got around $5m each for a fight that bombed with only 150k buys.

...and of course DAZN is paying out the ass for certain fighters and not getting a return on it.

[iamboxing]

I couldn't agree more. I don't even like watching MMA style of fighting, but seeing "C" and "1" next to their fighters names during a fight tells you you're watching an important fight between the best, that in itself, adds a bit more drama to their bouts, and this is not a yearly thing - we're talking the best fighting the best EVERY month!

[LacedUp]

I couldn't agree more. I don't even like watching MMA style of fighting, but seeing "C" and "1" next to their fighters names during a fight tells you you're watching an important fight between the best, that in itself, adds a bit more drama to their bouts, and this is not a yearly thing - we're talking the best fighting the best EVERY month!

Yup totally agree!

[RL_GMA]

I couldn't agree more. I don't even like watching MMA style of fighting, but seeing "C" and "1" next to their fighters names during a fight tells you you're watching an important fight between the best, that in itself, adds a bit more drama to their bouts, and this is not a yearly thing - we're talking the best fighting the best EVERY month!

This is exactly how one of my friends who's a HUGE Boxing fan started getting into the UFC. Even during this pandemic the UFC are moving right along matching the best against each other. Some Boxing fans bring up Boxers being paid more, but what relevance is that to the actual competition of the Sport? I come from an era where a fighter's purse was NEVER a point of discussion but fans now want to be accountants as well. Very strange time to be a Boxing fan.

[Jordan2712]

Who cares what anyone is paid? The fans just want entertainment, where the best fight the best.

Do you think a champion would have a run of defences, that Wilder had in the ufc. Not a chance.