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  • Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
    Of course its relevant, you're basically saying that old people watch boxing and young people watch the UFC. Which would indicate that boxings future isnt too bright in comparison, no?
    People of all generations watch boxing 'But you must have notice? That in society now, there are different types of people. And these different types of people gravitate towards different things in life etc The UFC attracts a certain type of mentality in my opinion, lemmings at times.

    The UFC's peak was over 10 years ago, I witnessed it. It is now 2020 and boxing is still here 'The UFC is not getting any bigger mate' I have told you before? Society and people's attitudes towards combat sports has changed 'There will be no combat sport of any type, that will ever duplicate what boxing has done culturally and historically'.

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    • Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
      Lets put it this way, Canelo got paid $35m for his last fight, and ended up sitting backstage for an extra 45 mins so that a UFC fight between two guys being paid $500k each could end and not cut into his potential viewership...
      And the entertaining moments in that fight were c-class wannabe boxing, two guys throwing weak slow arm punches and rest of the time stalling in gage.
      These guys aren't real fighters they are just entertainers like WWE wrestlers.
      Nothing wrong to entertain people but should not even compare to real sports.

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      • It’s impossible to dispute that the current boxing model isn’t incredibly broken. That said, there are some real downsides to the UFC model, especially on the fighters end.

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        • Originally posted by colt1 View Post
          And the entertaining moments in that fight were c-class wannabe boxing, two guys throwing weak slow arm punches and rest of the time stalling in gage.
          These guys aren't real fighters they are just entertainers like WWE wrestlers.
          Nothing wrong to entertain people but should not even compare to real sports.
          That fight was more entertaining than Canelo/Kovalev lmao. That whole card was great actually.

          Imagine saying guys that would quickly and easily beat boxers 90% of the time under most rulesets (or no rules at all) are not "real fighters", this is the level of desperation and delusion people have to resort to to cope with the UFCs existence lol.

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          • Originally posted by boogbx View Post
            Right on.

            https://********/y2SNmHENDJk

            Nick Diaz vs Gomi is a great fight. I watch and rewatch every few months. A good reminder in the value of mental
            Toughness and conditioning.

            Can you point me in the right direction of other fights I should see?
            If you're enough of a fan to have watched mid 00s Pride fights I expect you've already seen most that I could mention lol.


            Out of the more recent stuff - Poirier/Hooker was an absolute war that happened a few months back. Then theres that awesome main/co-main combo at 236 last year with Adesanya/Gastelum and Poirier/Holloway. Also Costa/Romero, Colby/Usman. That wild 239 card that made Jorge a superstar and also had Jones looking mortal against Santos. Nunes upsetting Cyborg, Holloway/Ortega, the local rivaly Whittaker/Adesanya title fight in Australia etc etc. Obviously Conors biggest fights were huge and had an electric atmosphere about them.

            Going further back - Shogun/Hendo was a classic, Hunt/Bigfoot was great, I really liked the Cain/JDS trilogy (the first fight especially even though it was so short, because there was so much hype for both guys going in and also for it being the first UFC card on Fox), then the Cain/Werdum "high altitude" upset, the "H bomb" Hendo/Bisping fight, the last 3 fights of Brocks first UFC run where he was getting years taken off his life every time facing absolute monsters, Chael/Anderson 1 where nobody could believe that Sonnen was doing so well etc etc.

            Going eveeeeeeeeeen further back - ****, the Randy/Chuck trilogy was pretty good, and was as big as it got for the time. The GSP/Hughes trilogy, Griffin/Bonnar at the TUF 1 finale, the Tito/Shamrock rivalry.

            ****, I supposed you could even go into the 90s and bring up a few. That Coleman/Maurice Smith fight springs to mind. Randy/Vitor was ****ing ridiculously high level for like 1997 too.

            I mean...theres a lot. And I havent even mentioned any Pride stuff, or Strikeforce, or WEC or any fights outside of the UFC.
            Last edited by TMLT87; 08-23-2020, 11:46 AM.

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            • Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
              That fight was more entertaining than Canelo/Kovalev lmao. That whole card was great actually.

              Imagine saying guys that would quickly and easily beat boxers 90% of the time under most rulesets (or no rules at all) are not "real fighters", this is the level of desperation and delusion people have to resort to to cope with the UFCs existence lol.
              if boxing sucks so much why 80% action in ufc is c-class wannabe boxing.
              Because nobody would watch some grappling matches no matter how effective is it.
              And Gatti vs Ward vas more entertaining than Canelo vs Kovalev still they both were b-class fighters so being entertaining really doesn't mean anything.
              If these ufc entertainers would do what they do best that nobody would watch.

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              • Originally posted by colt1 View Post
                if boxing sucks so much why 80% action in ufc is c-class wannabe boxing.
                Its not boxing. Its a mix of boxing, kickboxing, muay thai and karate adapted to an MMA setting, interspersed with a constant grappling threat, and with a relatively high number of fantastical KOs. If it really was just "C class wannabe boxing" people would quite quickly figure that out and choose to watch actual boxing instead, wouldnt they?

                Originally posted by colt1 View Post
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                And Gatti vs Ward vas more entertaining than Canelo vs Kovalev still they both were b-class fighters so being entertaining really doesn't mean anything.
                Well yeah, it does, because boxing fans still bring up the Gatti/Ward trilogy as being classic boxing matches and examples of why the sport is great.In 20 years nobody is going to be saying "boxing used to be so awesome, go watch Floyd/Pac!"
                Last edited by TMLT87; 08-23-2020, 12:07 PM.

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                • Honestly I’m die hard boxing fan but yea MMA mainly UFC is more exciting when it comes to best fight the best. But boxing has its moments as well I’m also getting more into UFC over Boxing but still gotta love the sweet science there no other sport with such a great history like it.

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                  • Boxing living off legacy at this point. This era of boxers will go down as forgotten at the rate their going other than a select few like Fury, Wilder, Ruiz and Joshua lmao.

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                    • Originally posted by boogbx View Post
                      Right on.

                      https://********/y2SNmHENDJk

                      Nick Diaz vs Gomi is a great fight. I watch and rewatch every few months. A good reminder in the value of mental
                      Toughness and conditioning.

                      Can you point me in the right direction of other fights I should see?

                      Nick Diaz vs Lawler
                      Lawler vs McDonald
                      Aldo vs Mendez 1 & 2
                      Holloway vs Lamas
                      Ferguson vs Pettis
                      All of Prime Anderson Silva fights

                      So many. But they’re considered recent classic fights in regards to boxing long history.

                      Boxers continue to “marinate” fights and majority of public do not appreciate “points fighters” at all. Too much bad judging and BS “tune-up” fights.
                      The best are hardly ever fighting the best. Crawford, Spence, Thurman, DSG, and Porter should’ve already fought each 1-2 each by now.
                      So much ducking and protecting their “0”.
                      I’m telling y’all, Floyd left a sour taste in the mouth of the combat sports viewing public.
                      It won’t recover. If the best fighter is a guy who literally hardly punches and mostly runs, hugs & defends...the public will exit and go elsewhere. Nobody wants to pay $75 to watch a snooze fest.
                      Not take credit away from him.
                      But it’s the truth.

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