Teofimo Lopez: Stop Low Balling Me or No Fight

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #121
    Originally posted by tritium_arma
    There's not going to be any fans so what does it matter?
    It matters because Lopez is bringing Hispanic fans on TV.

    There isn’t one poster who would take a different position than Lopez if they were in his shoes.

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      #122
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      It matters because Lopez is bringing Hispanic fans on TV.

      There isn’t one poster who would take a different position than Lopez if they were in his shoes.
      I think you're over estimating his popularity there. Sure he might bring in a decent crowd to Barclay's but that's a moot point in todays current climate .Nationally/globally no one knows who teofimo is so I'm not sure exactly how much pull he thinks he has. If hes holding/negotiating for a couple hundred grand more, that's clearly understandable. If it's for something ridiculous like close to what loma is contractually obligated to recieve..then yea,its a duck plain n simple.

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      • brick wall
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        #123
        when pac fought dela hoya he took a 70-30 split in oscar's favor. back then pac was already a established ppv fighter, had multiple title fights, had already fought the 3 mexican greats and champion in 5 different divisions. he took it like the b side that he was because he would still make more money than he ever had in his previous fights plus the opportunity to become a boxing superstar if he beats dela hoya. it's the opportunity for much bigger things in his career that mattered most.

        lopez doesn't look at this the same way because he's not confident of his chances to win so he wants to make the most out of it financially. the worse thing is he talked all that **** but he can't back it up

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          #124
          Originally posted by Sctrojan
          I think you're over estimating his popularity there. Sure he might bring in a decent crowd to Barclay's but that's a moot point in todays current climate .Nationally/globally no one knows who teofimo is so I'm not sure exactly how much pull he thinks he has. If hes holding/negotiating for a couple hundred grand more, that's clearly understandable. If it's for something ridiculous like close to what loma is contractually obligated to recieve..then yea,its a duck plain n simple.
          To call it a duck is just dumb. I wish posters would stop trying to equate business with bravery.

          If Loma were asked to take less, like canelo is being asked to for example, he’d hold out to get what he was promised. None of you would call that a duck.

          I am not over estimating anything with him. My point is simple- if you were Lopez and you found out Loma was still getting the amount he was guaranteed to get youd want to get what you were guaranteed as well.

          You wouldn’t be willing to be the only one to take a pay cut.

          Let’s also not over estimate Loma as a draw. What is really pushing this fight is the matchup, not the individual fighters per say. That is yet another reason Lopez has every right to raise concern that he is the only one being asked to take a pay cut.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-31-2020, 02:43 PM.

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            #125
            Originally posted by brick wall
            when pac fought dela hoya he took a 70-30 split in oscar's favor. back then pac was already a established ppv fighter, had multiple title fights, had already fought the 3 mexican greats and champion in 5 different divisions. he took it like the b side that he was because he would still make more money than he ever had in his previous fights plus the opportunity to become a boxing superstar if he beats dela hoya. it's the opportunity for much bigger things in his career that mattered most.

            lopez doesn't look at this the same way because he's not confident of his chances to win so he wants to make the most out of it financially. the worse thing is he talked all that **** but he can't back it up
            The problem with this comparison is Loma isn’t the draw odh was and the fight isn’t a ppv right. Beating hi doesn’t bring the same financial cache as beating odh.

            The other problem is Lopez has not said ( that I have seen) that he wants an equal amount.

            Yet a 3rd problem is this fight got moved from a ppv to an espn fight and only one fighter is being asked to take a pay cut. Lopez has already agreed to take less , just like manny.

            The other problem is the nasty bias in your post. You talk only about Lopez and nothing about how bob is only asking him tot take a pay cut and not Loma. That is unfair.

            If you were in Lopez shoes would you take less and let the other guy get the full amount he was initially promised?

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              #126
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013
              After taxes (in NY especially) and paying your people, he will likely net under 500k. Great payday and in general I think all athletes today are overpaid. But not fight athletes. They are really putting their health at risk out there so I don't mind them grinding out every dollar.

              You could argue whether facing Loma is really a health risk but I could see how Lopez thinks 3 to 1 is too much in Loma's favor. Just my 2 cents. If they offered him 1.5 million and Loma 2 million and Lopez ducked it I would have a different opinion. His star power is probably roughly what Loma's is?
              I honestly dont think tio has that much star power like loma yet..I mean the guy had a very incredible performance against commey but thats it only...i think loma is some what known more he supposbly has a cult following in LA

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              • brick wall
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                #127
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                The problem with this comparison is Loma isn’t the draw odh was and the fight isn’t a ppv right. Beating hi doesn’t bring the same financial cache as beating odh.

                The other problem is Lopez has not said ( that I have seen) that he wants an equal amount.

                Yet a 3rd problem is this fight got moved from a ppv to an espn fight and only one fighter is being asked to take a pay cut. Lopez has already agreed to take less , just like manny.

                The other problem is the nasty bias in your post. You talk only about Lopez and nothing about how bob is only asking him tot take a pay cut and not Loma. That is unfair.

                If you were in Lopez shoes would you take less and let the other guy get the full amount he was initially promised?

                shut up...my post was not about that kind of comparison. loma is not what oscar was and neither is lopez what pac was. but pac was the b side and it shows in his attitude towards the fight that's my point. he wasn't looking at what oscar would get to measure up what he should be getting. he was more interested in what the fight could bring him other than the financial aspect of it.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  The problem with this comparison is Loma isn’t the draw odh was and the fight isn’t a ppv right. Beating hi doesn’t bring the same financial cache as beating odh.

                  The other problem is Lopez has not said ( that I have seen) that he wants an equal amount.

                  Yet a 3rd problem is this fight got moved from a ppv to an espn fight and only one fighter is being asked to take a pay cut. Lopez has already agreed to take less , just like manny.

                  The other problem is the nasty bias in your post. You talk only about Lopez and nothing about how bob is only asking him tot take a pay cut and not Loma. That is unfair.

                  If you were in Lopez shoes would you take less and let the other guy get the full amount he was initially promised?
                  Lol and Lopez isn’t even close to what PAC was at that stage. Where is Lopez popularity coming from? Loma dominates him all over in social media and has Lopez even had a main event ESPN+ card yet? Loma and Crawford did 1mill+, Lopez is way out of his league. He is a nobody.

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                    #129
                    Lopez does not warrant any more money. I thought it was legacy? I think the water is beading off his feathers as we speak. Too early for diva town Teo

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                    • brick wall
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
                      Lol and Lopez isn’t even close to what PAC was at that stage. Where is Lopez popularity coming from? Loma dominates him all over in social media and has Lopez even had a main event ESPN+ card yet? Loma and Crawford did 1mill+, Lopez is way out of his league. He is a nobody.

                      I don't get it either. If he's that popular how come he has only headlined 2 fight cards so far? He's always been an undercard fighter. On the other hand, loma's been headlining fight cards since he fought salido in his 2nd pro fight.

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