Teofimo Lopez: Stop Low Balling Me or No Fight

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #191
    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
    Yo homie. You think this is my first day on this forum? Maybe youd love to recall some of our previous conversations.

    And teo is a draw. Says who. Did you provide proof?

    The fact is rhay Teo simply isn't a draw or nearly as big as a draw as you think.

    Why donyou think you consistently show zero proof?
    Once again, I never made the claim he was a draw. I made it clear the fight is bigger than either individual.

    I did provide proof. The fight is slated for msg, main arena, that holds 21k. Loma’s last fight was in the hulu theater. So clearly bob realizes this is a much bigger fight by going to a venue 4x larger than Loma’s last nyc fight.

    Lopez is Part of the reason for this. Therefore, imo, he deserves a little more than 25%. If Loma was the draw his last fight would’ve been in msg main arena. Lopez is also a champion.

    I think 65/35- 63/37 Is much fairer split given the circumstances.

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    • Cypocryphy
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      #192
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Once again, I never made the claim he was a draw. I made it clear the fight is bigger than either individual.

      I did provide proof. The fight is slated for msg, main arena, that holds 21k. Loma’s last fight was in the hulu theater. So clearly bob realizes this is a much bigger fight by going to a venue 4x larger than Loma’s last nyc fight.

      Lopez is Part of the reason for this. Therefore, imo, he deserves a little more than 25%. If Loma was the draw his last fight would’ve been in msg main arena. Lopez is also a champion.

      I think 65/35- 63/37 Is much fairer split given the circumstances.
      Actually that's not quite true. Lomachenko is the biggest draw out of all the lightweights. I've already provided data on that. If you look at the metrics for Lomachenko and Lopez for searches in the US conducted on Google for the last three years, it is a ridiculous landslide in favor of Lomachenko. In fact, you have AJ, then Wilder/Fury, Canelo (so long as it's on those special dates), GGG, Crawford/Spence, Lomachenko as far as being the biggest draws in boxing.

      By the way, please give an example of Lopez pulling in numbers. He hasn't headlined anywhere. So I'm curious how you know that Lopez is really an attraction other than by riding Loma's coattails ....

      Also, you have provided the wrong venue. Here's the correct one: On Saturday, October 3 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, USA Vasyl «Hi-Tech» Lomachenko will meet Teofimo «El Brooklyn» Lopez for WBO, IBF, WBA (Super) and The Ring titles in a 12-round lightweight bout.


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      • Smash
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        #193
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        imo, he deserves a little more than 25%
        he is getting a little more than 25%, hes getting 27%

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        • Szef
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          #194
          Lopez should get a little more imo.

          65/35 sounds about right

          Of course what he REALLY should do is accept the current offer, fight and beat Loma and then he'd be the guy calling shots but this generation of American fighters is entitled and soft AF and don't seem to believe in themselves as much as they claim they do on twitter

          So yeah give him that 10% more, if he's still pricing himself out then the offer is off the table and he can go back to fighting for peanuts

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          • R-Hand Southpaw
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            #195
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Once again, I never made the claim he was a draw. I made it clear the fight is bigger than either individual.

            I did provide proof. The fight is slated for msg, main arena, that holds 21k. Loma’s last fight was in the hulu theater. So clearly bob realizes this is a much bigger fight by going to a venue 4x larger than Loma’s last nyc fight.

            Lopez is Part of the reason for this. Therefore, imo, he deserves a little more than 25%. If Loma was the draw his last fight would’ve been in msg main arena. Lopez is also a champion.

            I think 65/35- 63/37 Is much fairer split given the circumstances.
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            While I understand your point in general, You are making a classic mistake in your analysis.

            Unknown isn’t the same as drawing power. He draws more fans to msg than Loma does. He is from the ny area and has a huge following in the Latin community.

            His compensation should reflect that, right?

            I’m not saying it should be a 50/50 split but he is a champion in his own right. if you feel champs should get more, the split should be a little better than 75/25 right?
            Read the BOLDand tell me you didnt say he was the bigger draw.

            Let's talk about circumstances now.

            There will be NO live gate
            Which means NO fans in attendance

            So how will them Hispanics show up to support Teofimo? Especially when they don't know who he is and the physically can't?

            That makes one of your best points completely invalid and irrelevant. Lomachenko is more popular in America and on the international level. You need me to provide proof for this?

            And Lomachenkos last fight a Hulu theater? Yeah I dont think so. He's fought at staples center and the O2 arena since, both holding over 10k people.

            I think its pretty interesting how you should know this but chose his smallest crowd size 3 fights ago. I wonder if that has anything to do with your agenda hmmm?

            Funny how, it was Teo is the bigger draw he deserves more turned quickly into, no, i said the fight is bigger than each individual.

            Is it?

            If the fight is bigger than each individual then 400k, what it would take to hit 35%, should not be holding this fight up.

            Odd how when you convert your favorite biased statistic in this argument into something with context your argument falls apart.

            Would you give up the biggest fight of your life up over 400k making a purse much bigger than you should in these times knowing that you could possibly not make 135 soon anyways?

            Because I'm pretty sure if he believes he could win as much as he talks 400k is nothing.

            Lomachenko all already took a pay cut from his contractual guarentee. Teofimo has no guarantee and would be making by far the biggest purse in his life.

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