Is the poster "BKM-" right about a 17yo HS wrestler being able to beat prime M Tyson?

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  • kafkod
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    #131
    Originally posted by TMLT87
    You dont get it, its not viable because the wrestler is going to be putting you in positions where you will rarely if ever be able to do those things, whereas he would be able to do them at will because his skills allow him to control the fight.
    You're the one who doesn't get it. Coming from the UK I have never encountered that silly leotard wearing, pin wrestling shit that yanks love so much. But I have grappled with a jiu jitsu black belt and I honestly don't think that guy could have beaten me in a street fight, let alone Mike Tyson.

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    • kafkod
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      #132
      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
      Yup. You've never been in a fight with a Wrestler.

      And I'm very happy for you.
      Yeah right!

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      • Earl-Hickey
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        #133
        The only wrestler id back against Tyson was Stone Cold Steve Austin

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        • LoadedWraps
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          #134
          Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
          The only wrestler id back against Tyson was Stone Cold Steve Austin
          The stone cold stunner is the equalizer.

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #135
            BKM- is a Mike Tyson hater who can't keep from embarrassing himself.

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            • TMLT87
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              #136
              Originally posted by kafkod
              You're the one who doesn't get it. Coming from the UK I have never encountered that silly leotard wearing, pin wrestling shit that yanks love so much. But I have grappled with a jiu jitsu black belt and I honestly don't think that guy could have beaten me in a street fight, let alone Mike Tyson.

              If you'd grappled a legitimate BJJ black belt who wasnt 90 years old and/or 50+lbs lighter than you you would have been tied in knots. So I have my doubts about this claim. Its as reputable as a BJJ guy with zero striking training saying he sparred a good pro boxer and held his own.

              I'm from the UK too. American folkstyle wrestling actually comes from British catch wrestling, we just forgot about it over time. The lack of wrestling skills in British MMA fighters actually used to be considered the main limiting factor in their success in the UFC. They'd have solid striking skills but then after winning a few would move up the rankings and inevitably run into a good wrestler.

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              • TMLT87
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                #137
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Absolutely. Horrible, unpredictable things can happen in street fights. Eyes get gouged out, ears and noses get chewed off, knives get pulled. Rolling around on the floor trying to use wrestling holds on some psycho is the last thing you should be trying to do in a street fight.
                Lol once again theres this weird disingenuous thing where the boxer can gouge out eyes, bite off noses and pull knives while the grappler for some reason cant do any of those things...even though his grappling skills would put him in a much more effective position to do them.

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                • lopetego
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                  #138
                  Maybe if the wrestler has a body like 17yo Zion Williamson

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