Which nation has the most world champions?

[ShoulderRoll]

It makes no sense to be proud of something over which you have no control.

Being born in one country versus another is not an accomplishment. It's just a random event that happened to you without any input on your part.

Thinking like that will go a long way to causing us to ignore and eventually lose the boxing legacy that has been handed down by generations of American fighters and trainers.

Taking pride in that legacy and seeing it as something special is better. Might motivate people to participate in the lineage and to preserve it.

[famicommander]

Thinking like that will go a long way to causing us to ignore and eventually lose the boxing legacy that has been handed down by generations of American fighters and trainers.

Taking pride in that legacy and seeing it as something special is better. Might motivate people to participate in the lineage and to preserve it.

People don't aspire to be like Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard because they were great American boxers, they aspire to be like them because they were great boxers period.

There is no "us". There's you and there's me. Your accomplishments and failings are your own, my accomplishments and failings are my own. It's irrelevant that we were born within the same set of arbitrary, imaginary lines.

[JOITATS]

I'll list them by name then, later, or you can now but I'm out of time.

There are no regulars, for anyone.

The only thing I counted that probably shouldn't be is WBC-F which favors Mexico and Ukraine atm don't they? Given those are the only two who have the trophy title atm.

again the USA has 11 champs, not 14

as i said and the number fluctuates all the time

japan had around 13 world champs a couple years ago, i recall the equal amount to the USA
while there have been times mexico was also up there too...
despite both of their population is only a fraction of the states

[ruedboy]

The Nation of Islam, without a doubt.

[Marchegiano]

People don't aspire to be like Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard because they were great American boxers, they aspire to be like them because they were great boxers period.

There is no "us". There's you and there's me. Your accomplishments and failings are your own, my accomplishments and failings are my own. It's irrelevant that we were born within the same set of arbitrary, imaginary lines.

I am a white, male, american, inventor. Historically a cliche.

I'm open to suggestions, but, currently, the way I see it is my *****, skin tone, and the land I was born on have nothing to do with my profession, however, the system I was born into very much does.

I assume the same thing for our champions. boxers per capita and all that detailed lark is very interesting and I enjoy when Koba shares his stats, but, I do feel like it can all be summed up with the nations.

America is a different nation, it's not just population sizes or geographical locations, it's culture, laws, infrastructure of all kinds be it transit or banking, things like that.

I can tell you, if I was foreign I'd still live exactly where I do. You can invent and use cheap materials to do it, but I can't. I need to be in the USA to get those sweet chems you can't get in China unless you pay triple the price. Otherwise with their give no ****s attitude toward patents I'd be Chinese right now and praise the CCP for making a system that allows me to use technology to make new technology without having to pay absurd licensing fees. I'd damn sure give up my patents to live in a patent-less society because despite making me easy money I don't have to work for on the other side of it my research and development is terrible expensive because of other peoples' patents OPP. America just makes up for it with their amazing array of brand new tech every year. I mean, computers is one thing, you should check how fast paced other forms of technology actually are, chemistry is no joke.

I'd assume where american supremacy can be found that's it's explanation, not because of the land, race, sex, anything like that, but the system we are born to.

Otherwise, what else are you left with to explain why most inventors are white guys and most champions are black guys? Whites be smart, black be strong...seems, you know, not just racist, be the wrong perspective entirely.



Call me a flagboy, I give no ****s, man, woman, ******, black, white, brown, born in the USA means you have a leg up in some fields. Just like how I'd imagine being born in Greece gives you a more intimate knowledge of Greek history than I'll ever learn from the US.

We are good at boxing. We are a system, our people find their individual place with in our system, but we most certainly are we. Black american boxing supremacy is propped up by things like American consumerism, you know, culture.

You can't be Floyd Mayweather and be British, they got their own system and Floyd doesn't work there. Look at what happened to Fury. Floyd doesn't work there, Floyd does work here, IE, our system, culturally speaking and infrastructure wise better facilitates the economy that is Mayweather.

I am proud of my nation, we, together, are pretty badass.

[KingHippo]

Yeah for sure, there's all kindsa examples, as I keep saying the trick is to find some consistent way of deciding. I mean going by country of birth is probably easiest, but then what do you do with a dude like Lara who has become a US citizen, or say Dogboe who moved to the UK when he was 8? Its a headscratcher... I'm entirely open to suggestions cos there isn't one simple catch all solution. Maybe you could do it by the country in which they learned their craft unless they self identify as a different Nationality? IDK How would you do it?

Nationality trumps everything in my opinion. People like Lara can call themselves Cubans all they want, they would've never had the career they had if it wasn't for America.

[ShoulderRoll]

People don't aspire to be like Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard because they were great American boxers, they aspire to be like them because they were great boxers period.

There is no "us". There's you and there's me. Your accomplishments and failings are your own, my accomplishments and failings are my own. It's irrelevant that we were born within the same set of arbitrary, imaginary lines.

The American culture and way of life are different than that found in other countries.

Some of it is negative and could use improvement. But a lot of it is exceptional and deserves to be preserved and protected.

I don't expect people from other lands to want to do it. It falls to us, the American citizens, to have the proper reverence for what our forefathers passed down to us.

[Marchegiano]

again the USA has 11 champs, not 14

as i said and the number fluctuates all the time

japan had around 13 world champs a couple years ago, i recall the equal amount to the USA
while there have been times mexico was also up there too...
despite both of their population is only a fraction of the states

United States of America:

1. David Benavidez WBC
   
2. Caleb Plant IBF
   
3. Jermall Charlo WBC
   
4. Demetrius Andrade WBO
   
5. Jermell Charlo WBC
   
6. Errol Spence Jr. WBC
   
7. Terence Crawford WBO
   
8. José Ramírez WBC WBO
   
9. Devin Haney WBC
   
10. Teófimo López IBF
    
11. Joseph Diaz IBF
    
12. Jamel Herring WBO
    
13. Gary Russell Jr. WBC
    
14. Shakur Stevenson WBO

Who exactly is a regular champ?

[Citizen Koba]

The American culture and way of life are different than that found in other countries.

Some of it is negative and could use improvement. But a lot of it is exceptional and deserves to be preserved and protected.

I don't expect people from other lands to want to do it. It falls to us, the American citizens, to have the proper reverence for what our forefathers passed down to us.

Every culture and country is unique and different man, all of 'em have heritage and traditions that should be treasured and protected. The problems generally start when folk get to thinking they are superior or entitled in some way.

[techliam]

The American culture and way of life are different than that found in other countries.

Some of it is negative and could use improvement. But a lot of it is exceptional and deserves to be preserved and protected.

I don't expect people from other lands to want to do it. It falls to us, the American citizens, to have the proper reverence for what our forefathers passed down to us.

A lot of it is exceptional?
That kinda suggests what other countries have isn’t exceptional, especially in quantity of whatever it is you’re referring to

Nationalism is a fools game, some cultures are slower to look beyond it than others