Better resume Mike Tyson or Wladimir Klitschko?

[DreamFighter]

Isn't it funny how the heavyweight division became weak once the Soviet nations were allowed to compete and American fighters weren't on top anymore?

the only thing thats funny is your lie - Soviet fighters entered after 1992. The 90s was a strong era.

The division has been considered weak since 2004 but has gathered some quality recently.

Thats a full 12 years where you are wrong and out.

Lets see what your hero wlad was doing in the 90s - hiding behind s fake unrecognised title and not engaging with one even decent fighter...and still getting his azz handed to him.

[Marchegiano]

the only thing thats funny is your lie - Soviet fighters entered after 1992. The 90s was a strong era.

The division has been considered weak since 2004 but has gathered some quality recently.

Thats a full 12 years where you are wrong and out.

Lets see what your hero wlad was doing in the 90s - hiding behind s fake unrecognised title and not engaging with one even decent fighter...and still getting his azz handed to him.

Ain't no eastern euros doing well before the ban either.

[Tatabanya]

Forget about resumes. Comparing Wladimir Klitschko to Mike Tyson equals comparing an Amazon truck to a Ferrari.

[KingOfGlory]

Alright! I get it! I can see that you wanna make this about the skin game. Maybe or perhaps those fighters share your common skin tone. However, this has nothing to do with the skin game fella. We are talking about facts, proof and history here.

Until you can provide me with a list of achievements that Wladimir's opponent's have achieved as opposed to the opponents that Iron Mike's opponent's have achieved then there is really no argument.

You cannot provide one name on Klitschko's resume that was as good as Larry Holmes.

Nobody's talking about skin color except you.

Wlad knocking out a series of undefeated top 10 contenders is far more impressive than beating a 36 year old coming off two losses and a 2 year layoff.

If Wlad didn't come along and beat them you'd be parading about the ATG champions Eddie Chambers, Tony Thompson, and Chris Byrd.

[champion4ever]

If Wlad didn't come along and beat them you'd be parading about the ATG champions Eddie Chambers, Tony Thompson, and Chris Byrd.

Who are they? Were they supposed to have been some type of fighters or something?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Nobody's talking about skin color except you.

Wlad knocking out a series of undefeated top 10 contenders is far more impressive than beating a 36 year old coming off two losses and a 2 year layoff.

If Wlad didn't come along and beat them you'd be parading about the ATG champions Eddie Chambers, Tony Thompson, and Chris Byrd.

That is exactly how it is. Americans are just pissed Klitschko prevented those guys from being ATG-s. They are mad 2 Eastern Euro brothers ruled division for 10 years.

[Marchegiano]

Nobody's talking about skin color except you.

Wlad knocking out a series of undefeated top 10 contenders is far more impressive than beating a 36 year old coming off two losses and a 2 year layoff.

If Wlad didn't come along and beat them you'd be parading about the ATG champions Eddie Chambers, Tony Thompson, and Chris Byrd.

Who are they? Were they supposed to have been some type of fighters or something?

**** y'all, Chris Byrd may not be an ATG but he was pretty good.

[champion4ever]

**** y'all, Chris Byrd may not be an ATG but he was pretty good.

Yes, I was only teasing. Byrd was a solid fighter. I considered Chris Byrd a gatekeeper during Wladimir Klitschko's reign. He had some solid wins over Vitali Klitschko, David Tua, Evander Holyfield and Fres Oquendo. Now he is perhaps the best name on Wlad's entire resume.

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Klitschkos were black Americans, called Byrd brothers, they would be concidered top 5 hw-s of all time.

Just like Americans say Holmes is top 5 ever because he beat very old version Ali and all other guys.

[sunny31]

Why is it that Larry Holmes says he was retired, was out of shape and only took the fight for money, yet people on boxingscene says Tyson beat a great fighter

hilarious.

He was as inactive as Klitschko when he lost to Joshua. I consider both very good wins. Holmes would say that, as it serves his purpose of justifying a one sided loss. Was he in or near his prime? No. But he wasnt shot, and still had more in the tank than many would have you believe, as proven by his win over Mercer and performance against Holyfield.

The quick manor in which Tyson got some of his wins, undermined those wins imo. Had Holmes never fought again like Spinks people would say he was shot and I dont think anyone would argue. But the reality was, that Tyson was a force of nature at his best, and if you didnt have enough chin, and toughness you were getting stopped and fast, even if you were an ATG.

I believe that's what happened to Spinks and Holmes.

I genuinely believe if you had put that Spinks or that Holmes vs Haye or Povetkin, the former would win.

Tyson has 4 or 5 guys on his resume that are at or above those guys.